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    Default Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list

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    Joe Calzaghe Wants Jermain Taylor: "It'd Be A Megafight"

    By Michael Woods

    Joe Calzaghe, his father/trainer Enzo and his promoter, Frank Warren, have been plotting the right course to take that will properly allow the Pugilistic Prince of Wales to make his mark upon America. For more than five years, they have drawn up blueprints for the mission to impress the US. They targeted Bernard Hopkins, and had a deal with B-Hop, only to have him double his asking price after agreeing to meet the Welsh southpaw. They zeroed in on Roy Jones, who scotched that best laid plan when he got KTFO by Antonio Tarver. The brain trust and the boxer have fixated on a new bull’s-eye, and I have to say, this candidate to put Calzaghe over the top with the US fight fans is the most logical person at this stage of the game. Yesterday, during an intimate media luncheon in Manhattan, Calzaghe and Warren shared their latest foil that they believe will elevate Calzaghe another few notches upward on the pound-for-pound lists: Jermain Taylor.

    “Jermain Taylor is number one for me,” said Calzaghe. “He beat Hopkins, he’s young, undefeated, a massive test.”

    To be upfront, I haven’t always been gentle in my critiques of Calzaghe, for staying put and taking the safer, more lucrative-in-the-short-term paydays on his home turf. And I haven’t always been so benign in my criticism of Warren, for posturing in securing opponents for Calzaghe, and letting money matters cloud his decision-making, instead of perhaps taking less money but gaining a greater upside benefit by matching Calzaghe with an American mega-star. Perhaps, I insinuated, Warren didn’t want to risk sending his prized possession into overly risky battles, and risk losing his cash cow. Yesterday, I was happy to shake hands with both men, and let them attach a face to a byline, so they might be able to properly picture my big, bald head with darts in it the next time I write something they maybe don’t fancy.

    But meeting Calzaghe, who was humble and affable, and Warren, who ponied up for some damned fine Chilean sea bass, was beneficial to me. It humanized the two, and forced/allowed me to recast my take on Calzaghe slightly.

    First, I have to look back on Calzaghe’s latest outing, against Sakio Bika on Oct. 14, and lessen my negativity on JC’s performance that evening in Manchester.

    As I told Calzaghe, I believe my expectations were raised so high with his masterful work against Jeff Lacy, in his fight-of-the-year March victory, that when he looked so ordinary against the awkward ruffian Bika, I cringed. The fighter set me straight on the Bika bout, with ample humbleness and admirable honesty.

    “I wanted to knock Bika out,” he said. “I was up for the Lacy fight. If I lost to Lacy it would have been catastrophic. People would have said about me, ‘I told you.’ With Bika, it’s not the same. You have to have that fear factor. As I said when I spoke to Sugar Ray Leonard in London, if I don’t perform my best against Bika I’m still going to win probably.”

    Props to Calzaghe for this explanation. Hey, the guy is 34, he’s been around the merry-go-round so many times, he can’t be blamed for getting bored. He’s done more road work than a paver. He’s done enough situps for a lifetime.

    Calzaghe shed more light on the Bika brawl, and the reason behind his less than stellar showing.

    “After Lacy, I was trying too hard,” he said. “It was my first fight for HBO, I wanted it to be spectacular.”

    Also, because of the old, familiar hand woes, Calzaghe sparred just 40 rounds for Bika, and those were light rounds.

    Going back another fight, to the Lacy effort, Calzaghe showed his humble side to even greater effect.

    “On the Lacy fight, I gladly went twelve rounds, but I ask, will I ever fight that good again? Who knows?”

    So I must publicly backtrack, and dial back the criticism on Calzaghe a sliver: after all, the man hasn’t lost in 42 bouts. Do I think maybe some slightly tougher opponents could have been summoned over the years? Perhaps. But the 168-175 neighborhood isn’t like the golden palace of the welterweights. There aren’t too many Hall of Famers dotting those ranks in the years Calzaghe has hit his prime.

    And I will dial it back further if his American Invasion 2007 comes off.

    The plan for the attack as of now: fight in his homeland, in Cardiff, probably in February. The foe could be Danish WBA/WBC 168 titlist Mikkel Kessler, as Warren has been back and forth in early talks with Kessler’s promoter, Mogens Palle. Or the foe could be an American of high standing, perhaps Glen Johnson, who lost a split decision to IBF light heavy champ Clint Woods on Sept. 2. Then, after heavy HBO publicity work, a scrap with WBC/WBO middleweight champ Taylor, hopefully in Madison Square Garden, perhaps in June or July.

    Warren has already run that by Lou DiBella, Taylor’s promoter, and DiBella seems game.

    Calzaghe understands that New York is the media capital of the world, that Las Vegas is the epicenter of the fight game. To truly get his just props, and be thought of not as someone who played it safe and feasted on home cooking, Calzaghe knows he will have to come here. And he’s not sounding like he’s considering ducking Taylor.

    “If I fight Taylor like I did versus Lacy, nobody can beat me,” he said. “Nothing’s certain, but I’m confident I’ll win. Jermain Taylor and me would be a megafight.”

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    He should still fight Kessler first IMO

    Taylor's gotta move up one of these days though, he's too big to stay a long time at 160

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list

    He defintely wont be fighting Kessler anytime soon thats for sure.

    From Frank Warrens site - Calzaghes fight in Febuary will be shown on HBO, and it will be a big one.

    I've already started negotiations with Mikkel Kessler, who unified the WBC and WBA super-middleweight titles last weekend, and that's a natural fight to make.

    But Kessler's people have begun stalling on coming to the UK, and have suggested the fight go ahead in Denmark.

    I can tell you right from the start that's not an option, because Calzaghe is the draw.

    It was his fight that was shown in full on HBO - they screened highlights of Kessler's impressive win over Markus Beyer - and because of his victory over Lacy, he's seen as the division's number one by the market that matters, America.

    Joe's next title defence will be his 20th, which will equal Bernard Hopkins' mark and he deserves that fight in the UK.

    After the Beyer win, Kessler - who is half English - indicated that he would have no problem in fighting over here, I just hope he now sticks to his word.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list

    well when he fights kessler if he wins thats right step for him to take

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list

    Nice article Ouma.

    I dont think Taylor-v-Calzaghe will happen anytime soon, IMO Taylor will season himself at 160 for as long as he can (18 months to 2 years) andf then move up to fill Calzaghe's void.

    In the mean time i feel that Calzaghe cant hang around at 168 much longer.
    A fight with Kessler should be on the cards and after that we'll see if he can stay at 168?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
    He defintely wont be fighting Kessler anytime soon thats for sure.

    From Frank Warrens site - Calzaghes fight in Febuary will be shown on HBO, and it will be a big one.

    I've already started negotiations with Mikkel Kessler, who unified the WBC and WBA super-middleweight titles last weekend, and that's a natural fight to make.

    But Kessler's people have begun stalling on coming to the UK, and have suggested the fight go ahead in Denmark.

    I can tell you right from the start that's not an option, because Calzaghe is the draw.

    It was his fight that was shown in full on HBO - they screened highlights of Kessler's impressive win over Markus Beyer - and because of his victory over Lacy, he's seen as the division's number one by the market that matters, America.

    Joe's next title defence will be his 20th, which will equal Bernard Hopkins' mark and he deserves that fight in the UK.

    After the Beyer win, Kessler - who is half English - indicated that he would have no problem in fighting over here, I just hope he now sticks to his word.

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    Ah fook sake, it always an episode about why the fight wont be made!

    Just go over there and kick his Royal ass
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    Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling

    So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise

    If they cant dig out another Bika

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list

    kessler then taylor. the kessler fight should happen. but if it did and joe won and unified the division, if he retired with all the titles wouldnt it just leave a mess of a division and all the titles would go to the number 1 contenders?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
    Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling

    So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise

    If they cant dig out another Bika

    Brian Magee's always available
    Joe's travelled more than alot of fighters, not as much as he should have but he's fought
    in both Germany and Denmark and won well in both. Yes he should go to America, but this fight will
    be his 20 defence and mean alot to his fans so why not fight it on your home turf, nearly every boxer
    would do the same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
    Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling

    So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise

    If they cant dig out another Bika

    Brian Magee's always available
    Horrible chin aside, Brian Magee is a damn good opponent !

    He is far more game than 90% of everyone Calzaghe has ever faced.

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list

    I know... Just like the Roy Jones fight... And the Hopkins fight... And the... well... U get it
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Phil~
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
    Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling

    So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise

    If they cant dig out another Bika

    Brian Magee's always available
    Joe's travelled more than alot of fighters, not as much as he should have but he's fought
    in both Germany and Denmark and won well in both. Yes he should go to America, but this fight will
    be his 20 defence and mean alot to his fans so why not fight it on your home turf, nearly every boxer
    would do the same
    But it HAS to be a meaningful defence....we have had one "rest" against Bikia....

    Sure, he could coast out his career with relatively easy fights....but if you have the talent why bother??

    Having just read Hattons biography and seen how he parted ways with Warren, it makes me wonder a little at Joes drive in terms of striving to fight the best...as much as I like him, he has fought a fair share of imported fodder....

    Sure he can sell out MEN arena or even a stadium....but the real goal is surely to always fight the best you can wherever....

    Maybe its a little bit of negativity on my part but Calzaghe NEEDS 3 BIG fights to cement a legacy as an ATG...
    It can be done but negotiations can fall early in planning a fight...

    If a big fight comes of I will feel appeased....but I worry about who might be dished up for this defence....

    Remember folks, Im a huge Calzaghe fan...but I need to vent some negativity every now and then...

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Phil~
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
    Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling

    So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise

    If they cant dig out another Bika

    Brian Magee's always available
    Joe's travelled more than alot of fighters, not as much as he should have but he's fought
    in both Germany and Denmark and won well in both. Yes he should go to America, but this fight will
    be his 20 defence and mean alot to his fans so why not fight it on your home turf, nearly every boxer
    would do the same
    But it HAS to be a meaningful defence....we have had one "rest" against Bikia....

    Sure, he could coast out his career with relatively easy fights....but if you have the talent why bother??

    Having just read Hattons biography and seen how he parted ways with Warren, it makes me wonder a little at Joes drive in terms of striving to fight the best...as much as I like him, he has fought a fair share of imported fodder....

    Sure he can sell out MEN arena or even a stadium....but the real goal is surely to always fight the best you can wherever....

    Maybe its a little bit of negativity on my part but Calzaghe NEEDS 3 BIG fights to cement a legacy as an ATG...
    It can be done but negotiations can fall early in planning a fight...

    If a big fight comes of I will feel appeased....but I worry about who might be dished up for this defence....

    Remember folks, Im a huge Calzaghe fan...but I need to vent some negativity every now and then...

    yeah he should be looking 4 a big name, but to get that he'll have to travel and
    unfortuntly Warren won't let him take the risk, he should have copied Hatton and left
    Warren years ago, hopefully though Kessler will decide to travel, then after Joe has
    to hit the States

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Phil~
    Quote Originally Posted by miles
    Quote Originally Posted by ~Phil~
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster
    Unfortunately, as we all know, Joe don't do traveling

    So the 20th - Hopkins record equaling fight - (now there's a selling point ) will be in the UK.... Kessler, and the top American boys aren't interested in coming over...What a surprise

    If they cant dig out another Bika

    Brian Magee's always available
    Joe's travelled more than alot of fighters, not as much as he should have but he's fought
    in both Germany and Denmark and won well in both. Yes he should go to America, but this fight will
    be his 20 defence and mean alot to his fans so why not fight it on your home turf, nearly every boxer
    would do the same
    But it HAS to be a meaningful defence....we have had one "rest" against Bikia....

    Sure, he could coast out his career with relatively easy fights....but if you have the talent why bother??

    Having just read Hattons biography and seen how he parted ways with Warren, it makes me wonder a little at Joes drive in terms of striving to fight the best...as much as I like him, he has fought a fair share of imported fodder....

    Sure he can sell out MEN arena or even a stadium....but the real goal is surely to always fight the best you can wherever....

    Maybe its a little bit of negativity on my part but Calzaghe NEEDS 3 BIG fights to cement a legacy as an ATG...
    It can be done but negotiations can fall early in planning a fight...

    If a big fight comes of I will feel appeased....but I worry about who might be dished up for this defence....

    Remember folks, Im a huge Calzaghe fan...but I need to vent some negativity every now and then...

    yeah he should be looking 4 a big name, but to get that he'll have to travel and
    unfortuntly Warren won't let him take the risk, he should have copied Hatton and left
    Warren years ago, hopefully though Kessler will decide to travel, then after Joe has
    to hit the States
    Warren is very good at protecting his interests....but in terms of unleashing his talent, he gives nothing away...

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    Default Re: Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list

    If he fights anybody besides Kessler I will be extremely dissappointed in Joe. Come on Joe unify then move up. If he unified the division then he would be an extremely attractive opponent for any of the alphabelt holders at 175. Then he could do his last couple of fights as a LH belt holder.
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    Default Re: Calzaghe says a Jermain Taylor fight is number one on his list

    The way boxing goes Ouma is probably gonna defeat Taylor now because Calzaghe wants to fight Jermain. and then Calzaghe will have to fight Kessler and then he'll win and then retire undefeated.
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