Thread: I'm sorry but ODLH is garbage!!!

The guy truly sucks. I applaud his shrewd business sense and savvy, but in terms of boxing, ODLH is garbage. He hasn't really ever beat anyone. I don't know what goes on in this guys head, does he really think he is an all-time great? He is talking about enhancing his legacy by fight Trinidad again? WTF!!! Sure beating Mayorga was cool, but I don't think anyone really cared afterwards. If he truly is talking about fighting the best for his retirement then he should only be fighting either Floyd Mayweather or Winky Wright. I'm tired of people confusing ODLH's mass fan appeal with his actual boxing prowess. I think even he is a little delusional. This guy has the nerve to say that he didn't think that the entire PBF card was worth the money. Well, I paid for the fight and while I thought the last half of the PBF-Baldy fight was uneventful, I thought the fight was worth the money. Isn't ODLH the same guy that made a fight with Yory Boy Campas a pay-per-view. He's a fucking hypocrite. Now he's saying that he doesn't want the PBF fight anymore. What the fuck is that? He's afraid of getting thrown in the garbage like Baldomir did. If he doesn't wanna to get embarrassed in his swan song, that's fine, but he shouldn't patronize the public by telling us all that he wants to fight the best. Yeah right, ODLH isn't the best, and he has proven throughout his career that when it's time to step up his game, he fails. He lost against Sugar Shane twice, he lost against Trinidad because he ran like a baby (he even said he regrets it), he got put out by B-Hop, he got a gift decision against Sturm, Quartey, and Whitaker, and he beat a Trinidad-shot Vargas, and a washed up JCC. Who has this guy ever beat? I'm sorry if this seemed like an unfocused rant, but it was, I just had to say something about this fag.

Originally Posted by albsur2006

The guy truly sucks. I applaud his shrewd business sense and savvy, but in terms of boxing, ODLH is garbage. He hasn't really ever beat anyone. I don't know what goes on in this guys head, does he really think he is an all-time great? He is talking about enhancing his legacy by fight Trinidad again? WTF!!! Sure beating Mayorga was cool, but I don't think anyone really cared afterwards. If he truly is talking about fighting the best for his retirement then he should only be fighting either Floyd Mayweather or Winky Wright. I'm tired of people confusing ODLH's mass fan appeal with his actual boxing prowess. I think even he is a little delusional. This guy has the nerve to say that he didn't think that the entire PBF card was worth the money. Well, I paid for the fight and while I thought the last half of the PBF-Baldy fight was uneventful, I thought the fight was worth the money. Isn't ODLH the same guy that made a fight with Yory Boy Campas a pay-per-view. He's a fucking hypocrite. Now he's saying that he doesn't want the PBF fight anymore. What the fuck is that? He's afraid of getting thrown in the garbage like Baldomir did. If he doesn't wanna to get embarrassed in his swan song, that's fine, but he shouldn't patronize the public by telling us all that he wants to fight the best. Yeah right, ODLH isn't the best, and he has proven throughout his career that when it's time to step up his game, he fails. He lost against Sugar Shane twice, he lost against Trinidad because he ran like a baby (he even said he regrets it), he got put out by B-Hop, he got a gift decision against Sturm, Quartey, and Whitaker, and he beat a Trinidad-shot Vargas, and a washed up JCC. Who has this guy ever beat? I'm sorry if this seemed like an unfocused rant, but it was, I just had to say something about this fag.

Stopped reading it seriously after the bold

I agree he's gotten gift decisions but the fact he did enough to even get those fights even if he didn't deserve them was impressive to me.

This is really going to add to your sad clicks

He beat the fuck out of Vargas, Chavez, Mayorga, Campas, Gatti, Carr,....he's fucking great

He seriously lost two (Mosley I, Hopkins) times and he got 2 maybe 3 (Sturm, Whittaker, Quartey) decisions he didn't deserve.

VS Mosley in the rematch he got jobbed, vs Trinidad he got jobbed but it was his fault for staying on the bike in the later rounds instead of going for the stoppage.


If Oscar sucks, Mayweather is lower than Whale shit!

And to answer your question "Who has he beat?" I answer it with "whoever his era spit out for him to beat" 

How about I ask you this question.  In his prime and his hay day.  Who could he have fought that he didn't?  If you can name me a great fighter in Oscar's hay day that he DIDN'T fight then I'll say he didnt fight anybody.  until then, credit Oscar with his era and wins rather then discredit it because the era didnt spit out 10 leonards for him to fight.

Originally Posted by Lyle

This is really going to add to your sad clicks

He beat the F*** out of Vargas, Chavez, Mayorga, Campas, Gatti, Carr,....he's F****** great

He seriously lost two (Mosley I, Hopkins) times and he got 2 maybe 3 (Sturm, Whittaker, Quartey) decisions he didn't deserve.

VS Mosley in the rematch he got jobbed, vs Trinidad he got jobbed but it was his fault for staying on the bike in the later rounds instead of going for the stoppage.


If Oscar sucks, Mayweather is lower than Whale S***!

I'm not worried about sad clicks. How does Mayweather suck? The guy is a true boxer and the best fighter in the world. Nobody could ever say that about De La Hoya. De La Hoya was never the best boxer of his time. You even said that he ran like a wuss in the Trinidad fight. Come on, I don't think anyone took Vargas seriously after he got owned by Trinidad. And Mayorga is third on your list? HAHAHAHAHA!!! You've got to be kidding. Let's be honest, De La Hoya shouldn't be in the same sentence as PBF, because PBF is just in a much better league. De La Hoya used his overwhelming size advantage in the earlier stages of his career, but as he moved up, he becamse ordinary. PBF is two weight classes out of his natural weight class and he's still dominating. U can't be serious.

And to answer your question "Who has he beat?" I answer it with "whoever his era spit out for him to beat"

How about I ask you this question. In his prime and his hay day. Who could he have fought that he didn't? If you can name me a great fighter in Oscar's hay day that he DIDN'T fight then I'll say he didnt fight anybody. until then, credit Oscar with his era and wins rather then discredit it because the era didnt spit out 10 leonards for him to fight.

This is what I mean, we all like watching the drama that ODLH brings when he fights, but let's keep his legacy in perspective, he was always a step under expectations. When he moved up to a weight where his advantages were taken away, he was ordinary.

Originally Posted by albsur2006

This is what I mean, we all like watching the drama that ODLH brings when he fights, but let's keep his legacy in perspective, he was always a step under expectations. When he moved up to a weight where his advantages were taken away, he was ordinary.

You didn't answer my question though. You said keep his legacy in perspective. So do that by answering the question

You can say Oscar fought the best of his era just as Majesty posted......you can't say that about Floyd because he hasn't come close to fighting Oscar, Shane, or Tszyu.

You can't name 1 GREAT of Mayweather's record....you can name a lot on Oscar's

JC Chavez, Hopkins, Mosley, Trinidad, Whittaker, Camacho

and you can name even more guys on Oscar's record are better than ANYONE Floyd fought




Key is Oscar took risks, Floyd hasn't

Say all you want about Oscar but he stepped in the ring with fighters when they were still somebody.

PBF is fighting nothing but old bums and beatable fighters with no power or faulty chins.

Oscar does not need PBF.

PBF needs Oscar and is begging for the fight. Mayweather Sr. is laughing his azz off and is the one who is whispering into ODLH's ear.

PBF needs to fight Hatton, Margarito or Chiny, chin Cotto.

If PBF had the balls to step in the ring with any of these fighters I just mentioned, I would give PBF some kudos/accolades.

Win, lose or draw, Oscar has stepped in the ring with better opposition than PBF has.

Oscar is made of GOLD and PBF is made of BRONZE. (OLYMPICS BABY)

Originally Posted by Lyle

You can say Oscar fought the best of his era just as Majesty posted......you can't say that about Floyd because he hasn't come close to fighting Oscar, Shane, or Tszyu.

You can't name 1 GREAT of Mayweather's record....you can name a lot on Oscar's

JC Chavez, Hopkins, Mosley, Trinidad, Whittaker, Camacho

and you can name even more guys on Oscar's record are better than ANYONE Floyd fought




Key is Oscar took risks, Floyd hasn't

Wait let me get this straight, Floyd didn't take risks?!?! I'd say fighting an undefeated Corrales, JLC twice, and Jesus Chavez were pretty big risks at the time. Plus, Floyd won all but one very convincingly. I never said that Oscar hasn't fought anyone, I said that Oscar hasn't really beat anyone. Plus, Floyd takes guys that are physically bigger than him and makes them look ordinary. Aside from Trinidad, ODLH was the biggest welterweight/light middleweight of his era, and he looked ordinary. And when he moved up to fight bigger guys at 160, we all saw what happened. For god sakes, the guy was outhustled by a much smaller Mosley, ran from Trinidad, showed up out of shape against Hopkins and got knocked out, got dominated all night by Sturm but got the decision because no one wanted to ruin Hopkins fight plans. He did beat Vargas, but come on, who ever took Vargas seriously again after Tito pounded him into submission. He was SOOOOOOO much bigger than a 33 year old Whitaker at the time and he basically got a gift-wrapped decision. De La Hoya has never impressed me.

Originally Posted by Lyle

This is really going to add to your sad clicks

He beat the F*** out of Vargas, Chavez, Mayorga, Campas, Gatti, Carr,....he's F****** great

He seriously lost two (Mosley I, Hopkins) times and he got 2 maybe 3 (Sturm, Whittaker, Quartey) decisions he didn't deserve.

VS Mosley in the rematch he got jobbed, vs Trinidad he got jobbed but it was his fault for staying on the bike in the later rounds instead of going for the stoppage.


If Oscar sucks, Mayweather is lower than Whale S***!

yeah...just gave him/her one!!!! Completely talking out of one's own a** will bring the worst out in me....

Originally Posted by albsur2006

Originally Posted by Lyle

This is really going to add to your sad clicks

He beat the F*** out of Vargas, Chavez, Mayorga, Campas, Gatti, Carr,....he's F****** great

He seriously lost two (Mosley I, Hopkins) times and he got 2 maybe 3 (Sturm, Whittaker, Quartey) decisions he didn't deserve.

VS Mosley in the rematch he got jobbed, vs Trinidad he got jobbed but it was his fault for staying on the bike in the later rounds instead of going for the stoppage.


If Oscar sucks, Mayweather is lower than Whale S***!

I'm not worried about sad clicks. How does Mayweather suck? The guy is a true boxer and the best fighter in the world. Nobody could ever say that about De La Hoya. De La Hoya was never the best boxer of his time. You even said that he ran like a wuss in the Trinidad fight. Come on, I don't think anyone took Vargas seriously after he got owned by Trinidad. And Mayorga is third on your list? HAHAHAHAHA!!! You've got to be kidding. Let's be honest, De La Hoya shouldn't be in the same sentence as PBF, because PBF is just in a much better league. De La Hoya used his overwhelming size advantage in the earlier stages of his career, but as he moved up, he becamse ordinary. PBF is two weight classes out of his natural weight class and he's still dominating. U can't be serious.

I too say that Oscar faught like a biatch against Tito.
He faught just like PBF fights. Hit and run.
Oscar should of got the nod for that fight. Oscar boxed and ran just like PBF does.
I was glad they gave the fight to Tito. I was very disapointed in Oscar even though he outboxed Tito, Oscar was still running a la PBF biatch style.

Originally Posted by Danny_G

Say all you want about Oscar but he stepped in the ring with fighters when they were still somebody.

PBF is fighting nothing but old bums and beatable fighters with no power or faulty chins.

Oscar does not need PBF.

PBF needs Oscar and is begging for the fight. Mayweather Sr. is laughing his azz off and is the one who is whispering into ODLH's ear.

PBF needs to fight Hatton, Margarito or Chiny, chin Cotto.

If PBF had the balls to step in the ring with any of these fighters I just mentioned, I would give PBF some kudos/accolades.

Win, lose or draw, Oscar has stepped in the ring with better opposition than PBF has.

Oscar is made of GOLD and PBF is made of BRONZE. (OLYMPICS BABY)

Why don't you give PBF credit for fighting a much bigger and undefeated Corrales, and JLC twice, and Chavez. When ODLH beats Gatti then Gatti is a great fighter, but when Floyd beats a naturally bigger Gatti who was on a three year winning streak and had revamped his style with the help of great trainer Buddy McGirt, then it's "Oh, Gatti was garbage, PBF shouldn't get credit for that." BTW, ODLH don't want the Mayweather fight, we all know why. PBF might need it because it's the biggest money fight in boxing for Mayweather and the most money PBF will ever see, but let's get this straight, ODLH DON'T WANT THAT FIGHT!!! That would basically be ODLH paying out of his own pocket for an asswhooping. ODLH uses his PPV appeal and popularity to mask the fact that in the ring he's ordinary.

Originally Posted by Danny_G

Originally Posted by albsur2006

Originally Posted by Lyle

This is really going to add to your sad clicks

He beat the F*** out of Vargas, Chavez, Mayorga, Campas, Gatti, Carr,....he's F****** great

He seriously lost two (Mosley I, Hopkins) times and he got 2 maybe 3 (Sturm, Whittaker, Quartey) decisions he didn't deserve.

VS Mosley in the rematch he got jobbed, vs Trinidad he got jobbed but it was his fault for staying on the bike in the later rounds instead of going for the stoppage.


If Oscar sucks, Mayweather is lower than Whale S***!

I'm not worried about sad clicks. How does Mayweather suck? The guy is a true boxer and the best fighter in the world. Nobody could ever say that about De La Hoya. De La Hoya was never the best boxer of his time. You even said that he ran like a wuss in the Trinidad fight. Come on, I don't think anyone took Vargas seriously after he got owned by Trinidad. And Mayorga is third on your list? HAHAHAHAHA!!! You've got to be kidding. Let's be honest, De La Hoya shouldn't be in the same sentence as PBF, because PBF is just in a much better league. De La Hoya used his overwhelming size advantage in the earlier stages of his career, but as he moved up, he becamse ordinary. PBF is two weight classes out of his natural weight class and he's still dominating. U can't be serious.

I too say that Oscar faught like a biatch against Tito.
He faught just like PBF fights. Hit and run.
Oscar should of got the nod for that fight. Oscar boxed and ran just like PBF does.
I was glad they gave the fight to Tito. I was very disapointed in Oscar even though he outboxed Tito, Oscar was still running a la PBF biatch style.

The difference is that PBF was running and still winning the rounds. ODLH was running for dear life.