LMAO,I think I've done 100 posts tonight alone!! I love when it's this active here!! Have to go soon though,planned to be online for 30 mins,been an hour already!!

Ok,here's the lowdown on Ponce De Leon for Pacfan:

He's very strong

Very rough,rabbit punching,holding and hitting,puching,you name it,he does it

very very very powerful,I think 27 kos in 29 fights including 1 punch knockouts,I'll out vids up in a minute

He is very determined and shows tremendous heart....in his ONLY loss thus far,to the 6 foot 1(yes that;s right_ Celestine Cabllaro,Ponce got his ass beaten pillar to post for nearly the whole fight,a swollen face,knocked I think,and the determined bastard STILL WON the 12th round!

He throws very very wide,looping shots which will alow Bautista's straighter shots to land He has been thrwoing more straighter shots though,he has an ok jab and works the body and head..Je's pretty slow too...

Did I mention he is as strong as a bull? Rugged? Bilbo is right,he does lack immensly in the technical area which is why I have always maintained that a slick boxer can beat him for sure...someone who can copunter,move and slip BUT with Ponce's 1 punch power,he will ALWAYS remain a threat...

I just don't think Boom Boom is ready for such a fighter,the youngester may be overawed because he has not faced anyone like Ponce!!!

Agree. I think Ponce will just blemish Rey's record now. I know Rey is a good boxer, has speed and power, and also has skills but not now. Rey will be outboxed and overpowered by Ponce. Maybe on future when Rey reach his prime then it will be a hell out of fight.

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POWER vs. SPEED

WOW!! I think Boom-Boom will be overwhelmed, though I give him a lot of respect for taking this fight and it's a gutsy move with a HUGE pay off if he can pull it off!
The only way Boom-Boom can win IMO is by decision, and even then De Leon can also go to the distance and bang out a full 12 session if he must....

Gonna go with De Leon TKO rd. 7.... Just a gut feeling.

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De leon dont get me wrong is going to have to stop the guy or clearly win. cos he aint going to get in favours fight in the Phillipeans. If Rey wants to win he is going to have to put on one hell of a fight but dont get me wrong with his home crowd he has a chance of putting on this performance....but i still feel de leon has the upper hand just on pure experience! has Rey even gone 12 rounds? or fought a top 10 fighter? He is going to have to do his homework on this fight....but feb isnt even that long away...... he really is going to have to fight like no other. does manny pac ever help this kid?

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DOnt' think Pac helps,could be wrong. Is the fight DEFINTELY in Feb?? I thought that was just a rumour? Also,if Ponce wins,it's one of those wins that will look more and more and more impressive as time passes because win lose or draw,Bautista has a bright bright future ahead.

I no directly pac wouldnt help but it would be kool if he was there in the gym sparring him or giving the LAD! tips. a hero manny pac is and i tell you what if i was leading up to a wolrd title fight i would love to have him around. Yer he will have a good futute and thats why i feel this fight is unnesicary on Reys behalf. A lose will only make his record look weak. Its also a loss that should be avoided...buy hey this is boxing anything could happen.

wow. is this part of the Card ODLH wanted to throw in the Philippines. he said he wanted to make a Philippines vs Mexico cup like the Mexico vs Thailand he threw before. I think it includes Montiel Vs Z gorres, Jaca Vs Larios and Penalosa vs Jhonny Gonzales.

i think this is to early in bautistas career and will probably loose but ODLH dont seem to think so, cuz apparently Boom-Boom was getting the better of Deleon while sparring at Wildcard. Oscar's been talking about matching the 2 since last year before De leon made a name for himself with that huge KO. either way i think this will be a great fight while it lasts. the kids ganna have to dig deep to go the distance in this fight.

So that's how bad it is for our boy, huh. Hmm, maybe on the fight-night, I'll just stroll around somewhere and skip the fight, unless of course someone can convince me otherwise.

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mate your boy is amazing....he has truley just timed this wrong. If we did this thread in 3 years and De Leon was still the champ, i would have my money on Rey. The problems for this fight is his age and De Leon imo is in his prime. A great comparison for this fight is Ricky Burns and Alex Arthur. Ricky put on a hell of a fight but just didnt have the experience to keep up with Arthur who is fighting the at his best at this stage. I can see Burns being a champ when he is older...the same for Rey. The thing about this fight is that it puts an unnessacary 'L" on his record. shame really.

Ok, then, I'll take the stroll.

did it convince you :P?

Not really, you just gave it a final push.

Yeah... This isn't time of Rey. Just not now.

Just read on a website that Boom Boom does not want to fight for a title in February so I don't think we will be seeing the fight. I wanted to see it ALOT but if Bautista himself does not want the fight,I'm guessing that means he is not ready...just yet. Give me a year or 2 and he could give Ponce hell!

CC for the info EL Gamo he is doing the right thing imo he wasnt ready for De Leon. I wonder who will be next for De Leon. I still want to see him fight Vasquez