Thread: Why is Pacquiao getting so much hype?

He is exciting, and a great fighter, but he is fighting bad opposition which I don't understand why people are giving him so much credit... Morrales was done before their second fight, and Larios is a good fighter, but not somebody Pacquaio should be fighting when are better guys. He should be trying to get a fight with Guzman, Chris John or JMM, but beating Morrales and Barrera over and over again holds no credence with me anymore. He's proven he can beat them and I don't think beating them again should bolster his ranking P4P. People say look how much faster he beat Morrales this time, but I say Morrales could have foughten a longer fight, but he saw no point to it he was too old and too worn down to beat the younger, stronger, faster Pacquaio at this stage in his career, and same goes for Barrera. I believe that he hasn't foughten a fighter with true credientials at that moment in their career since 2004. In the mean time I believe both Mayweather and Winky have foughten far better opposition and in my mind have demonstrated superior boxing skill.

=if erik was THAT done why DIDNT barrera or raheem stop him or at least drop him once Pac DID.
=if MAB was just off that night he was mauled by PAC why was it a landslide win/stoppage for PAC and not just a close decision win?
=PAC compared to other big punchers at 130 is really a natural 126 pounder IMO he started his career as a fighter at 112 pounds and worked his way up DESTROYING fighters MUCH BIGGER THAN HIM.
= he's got charisma ad a powerful fighter who is actually NOT A THUG

Originally Posted by Humble

=if erik was THAT done why DIDNT barrera or raheem stop him or at least drop him once Pac DID.
=if MAB was just off that night he was mauled by PAC why was it a landslide win/stoppage for PAC and not just a close decision win?
=PAC compared to other big punchers at 130 is really a natural 126 pounder IMO he started his career as a fighter at 112 pounds and worked his way up DESTROYING fighters MUCH BIGGER THAN HIM.
= he's got charisma ad a powerful fighter who is actually NOT A THUG

Good points, and let me add some too. They say Barrera and Morales are almost a sure future Hall of Fame(rs). They say Morales was a finished fighter only when he got beaten by Pac - didn't they say that to Barrera when he got beaten too? Oscar Larios not one of the 'better' fighter for Pac? hmmm, with a record of 54-5, who held the World super bantam title straight for almost 4 years (he lost the title to a guy he tko'd before because he was drained making weight so he moved up immediately after that), winning 13 consecutive times during that period, but Pacman took him as his tune-up opponent, and still not impressive?

Originally Posted by Humble

=if erik was THAT done why DIDNT barrera or raheem stop him or at least drop him once Pac DID.
=if MAB was just off that night he was mauled by PAC why was it a landslide win/stoppage for PAC and not just a close decision win?
=PAC compared to other big punchers at 130 is really a natural 126 pounder IMO he started his career as a fighter at 112 pounds and worked his way up DESTROYING fighters MUCH BIGGER THAN HIM.
= he's got charisma ad a powerful fighter who is actually NOT A THUG

Originally Posted by pacfan

Originally Posted by Humble

=if erik was THAT done why DIDNT barrera or raheem stop him or at least drop him once Pac DID.
=if MAB was just off that night he was mauled by PAC why was it a landslide win/stoppage for PAC and not just a close decision win?
=PAC compared to other big punchers at 130 is really a natural 126 pounder IMO he started his career as a fighter at 112 pounds and worked his way up DESTROYING fighters MUCH BIGGER THAN HIM.
= he's got charisma ad a powerful fighter who is actually NOT A THUG

Good points, and let me add some too. They say Barrera and Morales are almost a sure future Hall of Fame(rs). They say Morales was a finished fighter only when he got beaten by Pac - didn't they say that to Barrera when he got beaten too? Oscar Larios not one of the 'better' fighter for Pac? hmmm, with a record of 54-5, who held the World super bantam title straight for almost 4 years (he lost the title to a guy he tko'd before because he was drained making weight so he moved up immediately after that), winning 13 consecutive times during that period, but Pacman took him as his tune-up opponent, and still not impressive?

Excellent points and I'm not even a big Manny fan but the bastard earnt my respect by beating these warriors. In beating Erik who busted him up the first time and becoming the first man to stop him,beating MAB who was suppoosedly finished yet has manged to fight on for another 4 years,drawing with JMM(although I thought he lost),and beating Larios PLSU busting up 122 pounders asses too,to ask why he is getting so much hype is a really really silly question.

And it's not just the guys he has beaten but how he has beaten them and the imprements he has been showing. Like I said,I'm not a fan but when a guy busts up 3 of your favourite fighters,I think he deserves respect. He has beaten more hall of famers than either.

And to say Mayweather has fought better opposition in the 3 year time span is the biggest pile of shat I have heard.....Morales washed up the third time is better than Baldo,Gatti,Mitchell etc etc so how impressive is a Morales who wasn't washed up ie the second time.Manny has beaten more Hall of famer fighters than Floyd and has fought as many good fighters as Floyd has in his entire career in 3 years.Even when Morales was fighting Pac the third time,peeps thought Morales may still win,respectable members here,guys who know their shot.When has Floyd fought someone we thought..hmmm..may be a challenge.....not since JLC until Oscar.....

Pac also started as mentioned,at 112,which makes his accomplishments even more amazing!

I can't believe what I just read. Floyd has had tougher competition? WOW! I don't think I need to say anything cause if Pac can't impress this guy with his ringwork then I damn sure can't convince him with my words.

So what are the other primetime, good money fights that Pac should be taking right now? He killed the old guard of greats. Before Pacman those guys were still considered the top. Now that he beat them, they are old. Ain't that how it always is?

Morrales was getting slower, and not as good for a few fights before for fighitng Pacquaio already by his last fight with Barrera there was a huge difference in how he fought then when they first fought. This is not to mention that Morrales and Barrera to a lesser extent IMO are not the type of fighters I consider to be like Hopkins or Lennox who have become more effective with age. I agree Pacquaio is good, but he gets rolled p4p against Mayweather, and about his weight he came in smaller than Morrales in their first fight and he lost. He has been as big or bigger in the last two fights and it showed that he wasn't the smaller man anymore. Morrales beat Pacquaio clearly in the first fight, and I believe if they fought in his prime it would be similar to that except worse for Pacquaio because Morrales used to hit harder, and same with Barrera.

Title: Why is Pacquiao getting so much hype?
HYPE? Are you serious Taeth? You've gotta be kidding, the mans a fwocken punching machine, explosive, powerful, fast. It takes a real champ to step in the ring and take on fighters like the ones he has. So many fighters 'Champs' enter the ring and consider themselves the best and to have fought the best. Some of them fight 1 fighter of the best caliber and thats that,All you gotta do is go through Pacs record to see that hes fought 3 future BHofF.

Taeth theres just NO freakin' way you could really feel Pacs getting toooo much love. The Man single handedly put the Phillipines on the map. He beat MAB, then he got very lucky to walk away with a draw against JMM, he beat Erik twice, loosing once to him.

I think for those 3 fights alone putting aside Larios and the rest of his last fights he derserves the love, respect that he gets.

What I do think is that his fans that come on here push things a little tooo far and therefor tarnish what Pac has done. Still I can see past that and still credit Pac for what hes done and just try to ignore some of his annoying fans.

this is the dumbest question I`v seen for a while. haha

its simple, pac has whoop and gave excitement in his every fight and he has left no name to dry. he has fought them all.

winky and pbf does not have better oppenents, winky has been fight guys past there prime and only guy who wasn't is a guy who isn't in his prime well atleast not for sure(j.t)

and pbf is just an embarressment, his one of the reason why some boxing fans has turn there back on the sport. pbf being call p4p king is embarressing. fwock his talent he aint got balls. most fans now mistake boxing as more of a frienly sport fwock that. boxing is about warriors he fights whoever boxer are not business mens.

now back to pac, he has the character boxing needs a good guy but a beast in the ring. boxing needs fighters who can intimidate the regualy guy, that's why ufc blew up they had guys like tank abbot not much telant but wants to lay ur ass out.

you shouldn't be asking why pac is being so hype, you should be asking how can we have more guys like pac to bring boxing back to the top. a money hungry punk like pbf don't give a fwok he jst wants the credit and say his great but only fight guys who has already lost to some else, and as for pac he beats the fuck out of everyone like no other fighter can.

we need more pacman in boxing do we need another boring pbf and winky? fwok no because we would lost more boxing fans there gonna turn to mma and forget boxing.

Originally Posted by CutMeMicK

Title: Why is Pacquiao getting so much hype?
HYPE? Are you serious Taeth? You've gotta be kidding, the mans a fwocken punching machine, explosive, powerful, fast. It takes a real champ to step in the ring and take on fighters like the ones he has. So many fighters 'Champs' enter the ring and consider themselves the best and to have fought the best. Some of them fight 1 fighter of the best caliber and thats that,All you gotta do is go through Pacs record to see that hes fought 3 future BHofF.

Taeth theres just NO freakin' way you could really feel Pacs getting toooo much love. The Man single handedly put the Phillipines on the map. He beat MAB, then he got very lucky to walk away with a draw against JMM, he beat Erik twice, loosing once to him.

I think for those 3 fights alone putting aside Larios and the rest of his last fights he derserves the love, respect that he gets.

What I do think is that his fans that come on here push things a little tooo far and therefor tarnish what Pac has done. Still I can see past that and still credit Pac for what hes done and just try to ignore some of his annoying fans.

exactly Mick the way I see it alot of people really/truly want to root for PAC and admire him but because of their hatred for some fans they would root for anybody as long as PAC get's beat. that's a FACT

i agree and disagree with the topic starter. i understand why Pac gets the hype at the same time i'm sick and tired of the PAC MAB and Morales fighting each other.

Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'

i agree and disagree with the topic starter. i understand why Pac gets the hype at the same time i'm sick and tired of the PAC MAB and Morales fighting each other.

you dont have to get sick and tired of PAC, MAB and Morales feud Bro, PAC and Erik seem to be friends already I can't speak for MAB EM though

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MANNY PACQUIAO destroyed 4 out of the current top 20 Mexican fighters including the no. 1, no. 2, no. 10 and no. 15. That's destroying one fifth or 20 percent of Mexico's top boxers...

I can fully understand why PACQUIAO is very well known among Mexican boxing fans and Mexican boxing writers alike ...

MANNY PACQUIAO, the one-man wrecking crew of top Mexican fighters...
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Wow you guys are totally misunderstanding me... Pacquaio is skilled, fast, strong, etc, etc. But he isn't as good as some of the guys out there. IMO not even close. I think proof of how far MOrrales fell was against Zahir Raheem who is a good boxer, but not Hall of Famer anywhere near the prime of their career would have lost to him as decisively as Morrales did. Barrera-Pacquaio was a great fight, but I think younger Barrera would have won because he had a little better defense, and had a better chin. Pacquaio is a exciting, and probably the most fighter to watch in the world right now, but when I say hype I mean he shouldn't be #2 p4p, and people considering him as good as Mayweather is crap. The reason why I say Mayweather's competition was a little better is because Zab came in more focused, and in better shape(the only time he really had very defined abs) than we've ever seen him. He is the hardest opponent for Mayweather because 1. He's southpaw 2. He's the only guy who comes close to Mayweather in speed or skill at fighting a slow fight when he's thinking. 3. With his speed comes alot of power which combined with the speed makes him a dangerous fighter when he does come in focused. Why IMO Baldomir was a harder opponent for Mayweather than Morrales was for Pacquaio. 1. He naturally way bigger than Mayweather, and outweighs him by almost 40 pounds at his walking around weight. 2. Mayweather couldn't hurt him. 3. Baldomir didn't give up when he realized he was overmatched, and he still threw kept comming, and unlike Morrales he was comming off to big wins while MOrrales morale must have been down in the dumbs after losing two fights in a row.

All I am saying is thinking about Pacquaio in the ring with mayweather (who is close to Pacquaio's size because if you look at him, he only moved up from super feather weight to get new challenges, and when he was the age Pacquaio was when he started his career he was the fighting in the olympics at 11. THis is not just with Mayweather, but how would Pacquaio beat Winky who he likely couldn't hurt, and who's jab dominates orthodox fighters let alone southpaws. I think Pacquaio beats Hopkins, Barrera, any heavyweight, and Taylor p4p, but I don't see him being better p4p than Calzaghe, and what Calzaghe did beating an old Eubanks who until then didn't necessarily look young.

Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

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MANNY PACQUIAO destroyed 4 out of the current top 20 Mexican fighters including the no. 1, no. 2, no. 10 and no. 15. That's destroying one fifth or 20 percent of Mexico's top boxers...

I can fully understand why PACQUIAO is very well known among Mexican boxing fans and Mexican boxing writers alike ...

MANNY PACQUIAO, the one-man wrecking crew of top Mexican fighters...
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So you think Barrera or MOrrales right now would beat Castillo or Margaritto p4p? I don't even like Margaritto and I think p4p he's too strong for Barrera or MOrrales right now, and both him and Castillo are much harder opponents than Barrera or Morrales at this point in their carreers.