Thread: (prime) holmes vs holyfield

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

evander "the holy warrior" holyfield he'll put holmes to sleep.

Shame he couldn't do that to old one when he lost 5 rounds to old fat one Holmes would beat Holyfield with jab and straight right you obvisiously didn't know Holmes and Holyfield fought already otherwise you wouldn't be saying that.

i'm saying that because holyfield is my boy!

Fair play but really and truthfully he wouldn't win.

Originally Posted by EastonAssassin

i think Larry stops Evander on cuts. Larry almost beat Evander when they fought in the 90's. i think Evander won a split decision and Larry wasn't even near his prime. people really forget how good Larry was. between i say 78 and 83, Larry was as good as anyone in history.

In my opinion Evander was a few years removed from his prime. vs. Holmes , Evander was at his best between 87-90

Evander beat Holmes from pillar to post in 92.. Larry was cemented in corner holding on to the ropes trying not to fall down.. and Evander had to shame him out to the center of the ring from time to time , drawing an imaginary line . Larry would try and bait his opponent like he did to Ray Mercer his previous match .. Sit on the corner buckle and bait. Evander was not gonna have any of that.



prime for prime would have been a firecracker , no question .

Originally Posted by Lords Gym

Originally Posted by EastonAssassin

i think Larry stops Evander on cuts. Larry almost beat Evander when they fought in the 90's. i think Evander won a split decision and Larry wasn't even near his prime. people really forget how good Larry was. between i say 78 and 83, Larry was as good as anyone in history.

In my opinion Evander was a few years removed from his prime. vs. Holmes , Evander was at his best between 87-90

Evander beat Holmes from pillar to post in 92.. Larry was cemented in corner holding on to the ropes trying not to fall down.. and Evander had to shame him out to the center of the ring from time to time , drawing an imaginary line . Larry would try and bait his opponent like he did to Ray Mercer his previous match .. Sit on the corner buckle and bait. Evander was not gonna have any of that.



prime for prime would have been a firecracker , no question .

Disagree Holyfield wasn't removed from his prime after Holmes fight he fought fight of his life vs Bowe and in rematch performed the best he ever had at hw and Holyfield didn't beat him pillar to post punchstats were only like 207 to 240 Holyfield looked like he was running out of steam in last 3 and Holmes won last 3 quite comfortably hurting Holyfield with straight right hands prime Holmes would beat Holyfield by ud.

I think you misunderstanding what I am saying.. I am talking Evander’s physical best. His prime.. No doubt he had some great fights there after. One being vs. Tyson in 96 at 34 years old. ,that great win came many years removed from his prime , what I am saying is that Evander was at his best peak conditioning and technical form in that 4 year span I mentioned above 87-90 Holyfield is still a great fighter and would beat 98% of the guys today’s at 45 years old trust me. Evander blankets this new WBA champion, Oleg Maskaev ,Briggs, and I also feel he would beat Wladimer Klitchko . but that’s a new topic ! LOL….CC mate, enjoyed your read !

Originally Posted by Lords Gym

I think you misunderstanding what I am saying.. I am talking Evander’s physical best. His prime.. No doubt he had some great fights there after. One being vs. Tyson in 96 at 34 years old. ,that great win came many years removed from his prime , what I am saying is that Evander was at his best peak conditioning and technical form in that 4 year span I mentioned above 87-90 Holyfield is still a great fighter many years removed from the prime , he would beat 90% of the guys today’s at 45 years old trust me. Evander blankets this new WBA champion, Oleg Maskaev ,Briggs, and I also feel he would beat Wladimer Klitchko . but that’s a new topic ! LOL….CC mate, enjoyed your read !

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

evander "the holy warrior" holyfield he'll put holmes to sleep.

Shame he couldn't do that to old one when he lost 5 rounds to old fat one Holmes would beat Holyfield with jab and straight right you obvisiously didn't know Holmes and Holyfield fought already otherwise you wouldn't be saying that.

i'm saying that because holyfield is my boy!

Fair play but really and truthfully he wouldn't win.

come on holmes isn't invinsible holyfield is a small heavyweight but he got heart and you never know who could be suddenly knock out.

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

evander "the holy warrior" holyfield he'll put holmes to sleep.

Shame he couldn't do that to old one when he lost 5 rounds to old fat one Holmes would beat Holyfield with jab and straight right you obvisiously didn't know Holmes and Holyfield fought already otherwise you wouldn't be saying that.

i'm saying that because holyfield is my boy!

Fair play but really and truthfully he wouldn't win.

come on holmes isn't invinsible holyfield is a small heavyweight but he got heart and you never know who could be suddenly knock out.

Nope he isn't but he would beat Holyfield you honestly think that prime Holmes wouldn't win when 40+ shot one won 5 rounds against prime Holyfield ?? im sorry Holyfield would be eating that piston left jab all night Holyfield would make it competitive wouldn't be one sided at all but Holmes would win ud im pretty sure of it and both guys haven't got power to ko eachother and plus both men have granite chins.

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

evander "the holy warrior" holyfield he'll put holmes to sleep.

Shame he couldn't do that to old one when he lost 5 rounds to old fat one Holmes would beat Holyfield with jab and straight right you obvisiously didn't know Holmes and Holyfield fought already otherwise you wouldn't be saying that.

i'm saying that because holyfield is my boy!

Fair play but really and truthfully he wouldn't win.

come on holmes isn't invinsible holyfield is a small heavyweight but he got heart and you never know who could be suddenly knock out.

Nope he isn't but he would beat Holyfield you honestly think that prime Holmes wouldn't win when 40+ shot one won 5 rounds against prime Holyfield ?? im sorry Holyfield would be eating that piston left jab all night Holyfield would make it competitive wouldn't be one sided at all but Holmes would win ud im pretty sure of it and both guys haven't got power to ko eachother and plus both men have granite chins.

thanks for the sad click i guess thats what i get for sticking up for my boy holyfield huh. damn holmes why he gotta be better for huh? hehe

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

evander "the holy warrior" holyfield he'll put holmes to sleep.

Shame he couldn't do that to old one when he lost 5 rounds to old fat one Holmes would beat Holyfield with jab and straight right you obvisiously didn't know Holmes and Holyfield fought already otherwise you wouldn't be saying that.

i'm saying that because holyfield is my boy!

Fair play but really and truthfully he wouldn't win.

come on holmes isn't invinsible holyfield is a small heavyweight but he got heart and you never know who could be suddenly knock out.

Nope he isn't but he would beat Holyfield you honestly think that prime Holmes wouldn't win when 40+ shot one won 5 rounds against prime Holyfield ?? im sorry Holyfield would be eating that piston left jab all night Holyfield would make it competitive wouldn't be one sided at all but Holmes would win ud im pretty sure of it and both guys haven't got power to ko eachother and plus both men have granite chins.

thanks for the sad click i guess thats what i get for sticking up for my boy holyfield huh. damn holmes why he gotta be better for huh? hehe

I didn't give you sc actually i never sc anyone and to prove i didn't have i don't sc anyone for there opinion.

+772 to you too, my mistake sorry bRo. hmm..... now who could of sd me then.....ooh well

Originally Posted by Julius Rain

+772 to you too, my mistake sorry bRo. hmm..... now who could of sd me then.....ooh well

No problem mate i love debate i love to hear all different opinions i never sc anyone i don't see why i should because there debating exactly what im doing i get alot of scs for speaking my mind but it don't matter because i like speaking my mind i hope we have much more friendly debates because i love em.

peace

I love holy but I gotta agree that he'd lose a SD. He might even get a flash knock down but Larry would just take to many rounds with the great jab and movement.

i still think holyfield gotz a very good chance against holmes--but it would most likely b holmes on points--however any1 say a prime holmes could beat ali(1964-75)...thats just crazy

Originally Posted by VanChilds

I love holy but I gotta agree that he'd lose a SD. He might even get a flash knock down but Larry would just take to many rounds with the great jab and movement.

Yeah if Larry were to win it would be on points with his jab

I'd see alot of leaping in with hooks from Evander but for teh most part being pinned on teh end of a long range jab . To clsoe teh distance Evander would have to stop bouncing on his toes so much cuz it upsets his rythm and he cant set himself for punches that way. Up close is where he'd do his damage . He is a better in fighter and his combinations would rough Larry up ( not to mention the head work ) The longer it went the more Evander would close the distance and find success . Its anyones fight .

Originally Posted by undefeated

i still think holyfield gotz a very good chance against holmes--but it would most likely b holmes on points--however any1 say a prime holmes could beat ali(1964-75)...thats just crazy

Its not so crazy when Ali has been took to his limit against lesser men than Holmes im not saying Holmes would win but honestly all people that say Ali would beat Holmes easily are wrong.