I mean we all talked that mayweather goes up in weight without cleaning any weight Division.
Some say there is no one to beat and some say he is too scared to damage that record. What you guys thing he should do?
I mean we all talked that mayweather goes up in weight without cleaning any weight Division.
Some say there is no one to beat and some say he is too scared to damage that record. What you guys thing he should do?
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Nice thread. I'd like to see him fight the winner of Margarito/Williams. Or the more popular choice, the winner of judah/cotto fights the winner of margarito/williams, the winner of that tournament should get a shot at Floyd. To me that makes the most sense. Since that scenario would take about a year to play out, Floyd should fight Sugar Shane Mosely in the meantime.
I'm a big Floyd fan, but even I think he still has more to prove. Theres a lot of unfinished business out there for him. There's a potential showdown with Hatton - something that should have happened after the Gatti fight. There's Cotto. Sugar Shane Mosley is on a hot streak and would make for a great matchup. The winner of Williams/Margarito.
Floyd has the talent to go down as an all time great IMO, but retiring with unfinished business when you still have YEARS ahead of you is not the way to do it. ALl those guys I listed, Floyd can beat. He has the talent and the ability. He's at the peak of his popularity now due to the Oscar fight. Whether people love him or hate him, now everyone knows about him. He's a household name, and all eyes will be on him. This is the time for him to add to his legacy. If he cares at all about how he goes down in history of boxing, retiring is a big mistake IMO.
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You know what's funny? Floyd never went up in weith yeas he fought in a higher weight div but he never went up in weight.
HE is a truely 147 fighter.
Mosley
Cotto
Williams
Margo
HAtton ( if he goes to 170 between fights why he can't fight at 147?)
Judah II
pick up a broom and try to sweep that is all we asked for and for all the talk PBF's has there is no problem he can pull it off so come on boy PROOVE your self once and for all. And then go make movies and Music Videos or what ever you want to trow your money away with.
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Once you've made 26 Million for a fight, I can see how it could be hard to go back to making 10-12 Million. It be different if Floyd felt like it would matter but he doesn't. He beat ODLH and people aren't satisfied and badmouth him just because he's not a brawling, crowd pleasing fighter. He's a smart boxer and people don't have respect for what he does anymore. Willie Pep was a feather fisted fighter but was a ring generalman and uses his smarts and skills to win fights. If Willie Pep fought today, idiots on this board would be calling him boring and would show no respect for his skill and intelligence.
Moving up to 154 to fight a fighter with a legacy like ODLH is a big accomplishment. It's much bigger than fighting any of the fights that are being mentioned like Cotto and Margarito. How do you go from fighting ODLH to fighting Margarito? That's ludicrous. If Margarito unified then called out Mayweather, it might be different but right now that fight makes no sense. The only two fights that mean something IMO are Mosley (because he's fairly popular and has wins over ODLH) and Hatton (because he's also undefeated and a huge star in Britian). To be honest, fuck Mosely. I don't blame Floyd for not wanting to fight that sparring partner. Floyd has legitimately approached this guy for a fight THREE TIMES, once in 1999 when Floyd wanted to move up from 130 to 135 and Mosley said that he would need 10 Million to take the fight (wtf?), then in November of 2006 when the fight really made a lot of sense and Mosley didn't want the fight again, then in February this year, Mosley said that he didn't wanna interfere with the ODLH fight. Mayweather hasn't been lying about chasing Mosley for years. Now all of a sudden Mosley wants the fight? Fuck you. Hatton is the fight that needs to be made. Then retire. Boxing is full of hypocrites. ODLH runs against Tito for 4 straight rounds on a HUGE PPV fight and his fans don't seem to remember that. Floyd stands and fights for the most part against ODLH and people are still talking shit.
it doesn't matter what he does he could clean house in every division he's fought in so far and somebody would find a bum and be like "well if he's so great why hasn't he fought THIS guy?"
Thats stupid, i dont think many people disagree that he is a great fighter its just they'd like to see him tested by some other good fighters before he retired. Cotto, Mosely, Hatton, Margarito and Wright are hardly bums, and they are the guys people wanna see him fight.Originally Posted by Punisher136
I know this won't be the popular choice, but I say risk it all and try for Taylor at 160.
6 WBC straps in 6 weight classes? Good lordy, that'd be a feat.
He's GOT to be thinking about that. He loves them greens.
Aside from that improbability, I don't know what he could do.
Wait to see how this whole mini WW tourney plays out?
Margarito and Hatton don't deserve a shot yet. We'll have to wait and see what Cotto does against Judah. I mean if Judah somehow comes out of this whole WW picture on top, does Floyd need to fight him again?? I say not.
So it's basically down to a Mosley or De La Hoya rematch for now. Please lord, don't let it come to an Oscar rematch.
I smell something rotten happening in a rematch decision.
So purely by default, I wanna see him fight Mosley next. But I somehow get the feeling Floyd isn't interested in that fight.
I agree with you. If he won, he'd equal Oscar's six weights and will have done it convincingly and while undefeated. Plus if he beat a guy who is undisputed middleweight champion that is young, fresh and has defeated Hopkins and drawn with Wright, who then would say he shouldn't retire?Originally Posted by meowza
Gotta beat him first. Could happen but a massive size difference....Originally Posted by bzkfn
I think what he can and will do is stay retired for a while, keep his name in the papers and keep his name buzzing around the sports world by talking about who he should rematch or who he should fight, then finally when Miguel Cotto beats Zab, talk a little crap about Cotto. Then Cotto will say some stuff about him and then after Cotto beats Margarito/Williams get on HBO and talk more shit about him. By that time Cotto would be a big Puerto Rican star, and Floyd would still have his name and the fight would be huge. And the fight would be anticipated on a whole bunch of different levels as Cotto would represent the real scary power puncher in his prime with the strong Puerto Rican following. And Mayweather would have tons of fans tuning in to see him get knocked out or win decisively. It would be like De La Hoya - Tito II.
I know. I'm not sure he would win either.Originally Posted by eagle
ain't that the damn truth.Originally Posted by Punisher136
i think he should fight shane at 147.
if cotto wins fight him at 147
if hatton wins fight him
cc back.Originally Posted by bzkfn
I'm really not sure how a PBF - Taylor fight would play out, but the rewards are too juicy to not consider it.
And a loss at 160 would be far less damaging than a loss at 147.
I mean, he'll take slack no matter what weight he loses at. I mean, he's Floyd.
But jumping all the way to 160 would be an honourable way to take that L.
Maybe, just maybe, his critics will cut him some slack for losing way out of his comfort zone.
But then again, Taylor hasn't been all that as of late. Plenty of holes including fading out in the stretch and wasted punches can be exposed by Floyd possibly...
6 for 6, Floyd.. I know you're thinkin' about it, baby.
Thats no where near THE DAMN TRUTH. Shane, Cotto and Hatton aren't bums, and if he beat any of them more people who actually know boxing would give him credit. He is great but people wanna see him tested. Yes some people hate floyd cos he is arrogant, but forget those people they knoe little about boxing....Originally Posted by 'The Boxer'
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