Thread: Big Fights Are Alot Harder To Make These Days Don't You Agree ??

I miss old days when superfights wernt so rare like Hearns vs Hagler Hearns vs Leonard ect what happened to good old days im getting sick of all these big fights not happening because its either not right place to much money not enough money ect does anyone else agree ??

yeah it all comes down to corperate greed!
i say they should cap boxers salary and make it about the sport not money.
tyson said when he started out that boxing use to be fun, but then when he won the title everything was about money

Originally Posted by Troy McClure

yeah it all comes down to corperate greed!
i say they should cap boxers salary and make it about the sport not money.
tyson said when he started out that boxing use to be fun, but then when he won the title everything was about money

It is so easy to be blinded be thew sickness of greed. Some who have all the money they need that still fight for the glory of it like Oscar is comendable. Then on the other hand those who will only fight who ever is going to give a better split and a bigger purse like Jermaine Taylor is condemnable. +1 for you because I like what you said and you are Irish.

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

I miss old days when superfights wernt so rare like Hearns vs Hagler Hearns vs Leonard ect what happened to good old days im getting sick of all these big fights not happening because its either not right place to much money not enough money ect does anyone else agree ??

Totally. Hagler wouldnt duck Pavlik or Miranda or Calzaghe like Taylor is doing. Back then it seemed to be all ablout the glory.I miss it.

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

I miss old days when superfights wernt so rare like Hearns vs Hagler Hearns vs Leonard ect what happened to good old days im getting sick of all these big fights not happening because its either not right place to much money not enough money ect does anyone else agree ??

Die hard fans wanted Hagler to fight McCallum, wouldn't even mention him

Die hard fans wanted Leonard to fight Nunn, wouldn't even mention him

Monzon wouldn't fight Hagler

Hearns and Hagler wouldn't fight Herol Graham

Duran and Hearns wouldn't fight McCallum

Benn wouldn't fight Nunn in early 89

Duran wouldn't fight Benn in early 90

Etc

Money is the root of all evil, and that is what dominates boxing. I just want boxing to make it's grand return to Local Television.

Originally Posted by Nium

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

I miss old days when superfights wernt so rare like Hearns vs Hagler Hearns vs Leonard ect what happened to good old days im getting sick of all these big fights not happening because its either not right place to much money not enough money ect does anyone else agree ??

Die hard fans wanted Hagler to fight McCallum, wouldn't even mention him

Die hard fans wanted Leonard to fight Nunn, wouldn't even mention him

Monzon wouldn't fight Hagler

Hearns and Hagler wouldn't fight Herol Graham

Duran and Hearns wouldn't fight McCallum

Benn wouldn't fight Nunn in early 89

Duran wouldn't fight Benn in early 90

Etc

Mccallum and Hagler couldn't of happened Mccallum was at Lightmiddle when Hagler was the champ at Middleweight.

Why would Hearns and Hagler not fight Graham ?? never heard of that one Graham wern't even force when Hagler was about and Hearns was aging and went up to Lightheavy plus Graham in his prime was Middleweight Hearns was way above that if i remember right so that couldn't of happened.

Benn wouldn't fight Nunn in 1989 i don't think Nunn would of wanted to have bothered with Benn at that time Benn was only prospect and got koed by Watson.


I think your missing the point though of course in every era there has been great fights that could of been made that didn't but atleast there was some great super fights like every other year now your lucky to get super fights anymore.

Why would Roberto Duran want to fight Nigel Benn in 1990? Please explain yourself....the man started out as a LIGHTWEIGHT and not to mention had his first fight in 1968!!!!

That would have been sanctioned murder....hell why not have Ali fight Mike Tyson in 1986?

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Mccallum and Hagler couldn't of happened Mccallum was at Lightmiddle when Hagler was the champ at Middleweight.

Yes, it could have.

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Why would Hearns and Hagler not fight Graham ?? never heard of that one Graham wern't even force when Hagler was about and Hearns was aging and went up to Lightheavy plus Graham in his prime was Middleweight Hearns was way above that if i remember right so that couldn't of happened.

Graham was #1 contender to Hearns at 154 and Hagler at 160.

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Benn wouldn't fight Nunn in 1989 i don't think Nunn would of wanted to have bothered with Benn at that time Benn was only prospect and got koed by Watson.

Ninth one down here: http://www.highbeam.com/Search.aspx?...&embargo=False

HBO were prepared to stage it at Wembley Stadium and saw a series of Nunn-Benn fights to take over boxing, they felt that a simple highlight reel of Benn's KO's would be enough to sell the fight straight off!

Originally Posted by Lyle

Why would Roberto Duran want to fight Nigel Benn in 1990? Please explain yourself....the man started out as a LIGHTWEIGHT and not to mention had his first fight in 1968!!!!

That would have been sanctioned murder....hell why not have Ali fight Mike Tyson in 1986?

Benn was WBC #1 after the Quinones fight, that was originally supposed as the Leonard-Duran III chief support with Benn taking on the winner. But Leonard-Duran III didn't end up being for Duran's WBC middle title, and so Benn's fight was brought forward a week. But Duran decided to keep hold of the title and had until January to accept a Benn fight in London, which British Boxing fans would have loved.

Bob Arum wanted Duran to do him a favour, Bob saw Nigel as his Leonard and Duran of the 90s. He saw the Watson fight live on NBC (first time Benn was on American TV) and said he fell off his sofa laughing at the ring entrance, and he was so impressed by Benn's performance (despite him losing) that he signed him two days later and hailed him "the most exciting boxer in the world".

Well really who we have to thank here are people trying to get rid of Don King.....I mean when he was THE ONLY big time promoter we didn't have this problem (that we know of)

Since when was Don the only big time promoter? It was Arum who staged the great super-fights of the 80s....


PS
At the time of the Nunn-Benn fight trying to be arranged in March 89, Nunn was 33-0 and had just knocked out Sumbu Kalambay in one round in Las Vegas while Benn was 22-0 with 22 KO's!

Originally Posted by Nium

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Mccallum and Hagler couldn't of happened Mccallum was at Lightmiddle when Hagler was the champ at Middleweight.

Yes, it could have.

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Why would Hearns and Hagler not fight Graham ?? never heard of that one Graham wern't even force when Hagler was about and Hearns was aging and went up to Lightheavy plus Graham in his prime was Middleweight Hearns was way above that if i remember right so that couldn't of happened.

Graham was #1 contender to Hearns at 154 and Hagler at 160.

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

Benn wouldn't fight Nunn in 1989 i don't think Nunn would of wanted to have bothered with Benn at that time Benn was only prospect and got koed by Watson.

Ninth one down here: http://www.highbeam.com/Search.aspx?...&embargo=False

HBO were prepared to stage it at Wembley Stadium and saw a series of Nunn-Benn fights to take over boxing, they felt that a simple highlight reel of Benn's KO's would be enough to sell the fight straight off!

Hagler had massive fights at Middleweight Hearns Leonard Mugabi and he wouldn't have moved down and Mccallum wasn't moving up so no actually it couldn't have happened Hearns moved up to fight a career defining fight against Hagler i know what one i would choose a prospect or career defining fight with Hagler umm hard choice and why would Hagler bother with prospect who hadn't beaten anyone great at that point and was only well known in Uk he had fights with Mugabi Hearns and Leonard he isn't going to bother wasting time with prospect when he was going to retire soon.

Nunn wanted big fights yes Benn had good winning streak but all his kos were against domestic guys and he got koed by at that time lighty regarded Watson after that bad loss to Watson i don't think Nunn would of been interested.

McCallum wanted Hagler, Hagler didn't want McCallum. A lot of die hard fans wanted Marvin to take on McCallum

Nunn wanted Benn in early 89 because Benn (along with Ambrose Mendy) was big, big news and a household name in Britain and thee perfect rival, but Benn didn't want Nunn until the offer was $5million

Originally Posted by southakron314

Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING

I miss old days when superfights wernt so rare like Hearns vs Hagler Hearns vs Leonard ect what happened to good old days im getting sick of all these big fights not happening because its either not right place to much money not enough money ect does anyone else agree ??

Totally. Hagler wouldnt duck Pavlik or Miranda or Calzaghe like Taylor is doing. Back then it seemed to be all ablout the glory.I miss it.

How in the hell is Taylor ducking Pavlik The man didn't even become the recognized #1 condender until about 45 hours ago, moron