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    Default Re: OR whAT ABOUT PACMAN VS HAMED how would that have been?

    Just because Pac whooped Barerra doesn't mean he would whoop Naseem Hamed.

    Now I would have been on that boat a small while ago but ever since i came back to the forum I really truly started watching Hamed's earlier fights prior to him coming to America and needless to say I was impressed.

    Hamed had such ungodly power it was scary and Pacquiao does get hit a lot, I don't stretch to say I think Hamed would knock out Pacquiao. Just on the principle that he comes forward most of the time and he didn't impress me against Solis.

    I've read what people said that it's about who you fight too, but at the end of the day, competition or not you cannot doubt Hamed's speed and/or power or even his counter punching in his pre america days. Doesn't matter who he used them against but the fact that he had them and was well schooled in those areas. And they were undoubtably THERE and you can't ignore the fact he had them regardless of who he faced. You look at someone like that guy who knocked out everyone in the first round no one is going around saying who he does it against they say that regardless of that he has true power. So I give that same benefit to Naseem Hamed. regardless of who he fought he had ungodly power and blistering speed.

    Now Barerra beat Hamed by taking away his greatest asset, his power, with his counter punching stand back and jab style he also circled away from Hamed's left hand too. In fact I think the one time Hamed got in a huge solid left hand was the moment right prior to Barerra smashing his head into the corner. And now that I look back on it, it may have been a veteran move by Barerra to buy time(not minding the point deduction because he knew he had it won) because I don't think people remember how hard Hamed hit Barerra prior to that moment, because Barerra did look stunned.


    However, Pacquiao wouldn't take away Hamed's power, in fact he would more then likely encourage it. I think they would both hit the canvas, but Hamed had that unnatural power that was also a one punch power, and I've never seen Pacquiao "recently" RECENTLY, stop anyone with one punch(Solis the exception) the rest of the time Pacquiao just overwhelmed them with pressure until they finally folded and it has been that way since he came up to featherweight, Hamed had the power to stop someone in a second, and that fate is what I think Pacquiao would endure if decided to go straight at Hamed. And I doubt he is a better counter puncher then Barerra so, I think Hamed would stop him.


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    Default Re: OR whAT ABOUT PACMAN VS HAMED how would that have been?

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Just because Pac whooped Barerra doesn't mean he would whoop Naseem Hamed.

    Now I would have been on that boat a small while ago but ever since i came back to the forum I really truly started watching Hamed's earlier fights prior to him coming to America and needless to say I was impressed.

    Hamed had such ungodly power it was scary and Pacquiao does get hit a lot, I don't stretch to say I think Hamed would knock out Pacquiao. Just on the principle that he comes forward most of the time and he didn't impress me against Solis.

    I've read what people said that it's about who you fight too, but at the end of the day, competition or not you cannot doubt Hamed's speed and/or power or even his counter punching in his pre america days. Doesn't matter who he used them against but the fact that he had them and was well schooled in those areas. And they were undoubtably THERE and you can't ignore the fact he had them regardless of who he faced. You look at someone like that guy who knocked out everyone in the first round no one is going around saying who he does it against they say that regardless of that he has true power. So I give that same benefit to Naseem Hamed. regardless of who he fought he had ungodly power and blistering speed.

    Now Barerra beat Hamed by taking away his greatest asset, his power, with his counter punching stand back and jab style he also circled away from Hamed's left hand too. In fact I think the one time Hamed got in a huge solid left hand was the moment right prior to Barerra smashing his head into the corner. And now that I look back on it, it may have been a veteran move by Barerra to buy time(not minding the point deduction because he knew he had it won) because I don't think people remember how hard Hamed hit Barerra prior to that moment, because Barerra did look stunned.


    However, Pacquiao wouldn't take away Hamed's power, in fact he would more then likely encourage it. I think they would both hit the canvas, but Hamed had that unnatural power that was also a one punch power, and I've never seen Pacquiao "recently" RECENTLY, stop anyone with one punch(Solis the exception) the rest of the time Pacquiao just overwhelmed them with pressure until they finally folded and it has been that way since he came up to featherweight, Hamed had the power to stop someone in a second, and that fate is what I think Pacquiao would endure if decided to go straight at Hamed. And I doubt he is a better counter puncher then Barerra so, I think Hamed would stop him.
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    Default Re: OR whAT ABOUT PACMAN VS HAMED how would that have been?

    Quote Originally Posted by TYSONBRUNO
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Just because Pac whooped Barerra doesn't mean he would whoop Naseem Hamed.

    Now I would have been on that boat a small while ago but ever since i came back to the forum I really truly started watching Hamed's earlier fights prior to him coming to America and needless to say I was impressed.

    Hamed had such ungodly power it was scary and Pacquiao does get hit a lot, I don't stretch to say I think Hamed would knock out Pacquiao. Just on the principle that he comes forward most of the time and he didn't impress me against Solis.

    I've read what people said that it's about who you fight too, but at the end of the day, competition or not you cannot doubt Hamed's speed and/or power or even his counter punching in his pre america days. Doesn't matter who he used them against but the fact that he had them and was well schooled in those areas. And they were undoubtably THERE and you can't ignore the fact he had them regardless of who he faced. You look at someone like that guy who knocked out everyone in the first round no one is going around saying who he does it against they say that regardless of that he has true power. So I give that same benefit to Naseem Hamed. regardless of who he fought he had ungodly power and blistering speed.

    Now Barerra beat Hamed by taking away his greatest asset, his power, with his counter punching stand back and jab style he also circled away from Hamed's left hand too. In fact I think the one time Hamed got in a huge solid left hand was the moment right prior to Barerra smashing his head into the corner. And now that I look back on it, it may have been a veteran move by Barerra to buy time(not minding the point deduction because he knew he had it won) because I don't think people remember how hard Hamed hit Barerra prior to that moment, because Barerra did look stunned.


    However, Pacquiao wouldn't take away Hamed's power, in fact he would more then likely encourage it. I think they would both hit the canvas, but Hamed had that unnatural power that was also a one punch power, and I've never seen Pacquiao "recently" RECENTLY, stop anyone with one punch(Solis the exception) the rest of the time Pacquiao just overwhelmed them with pressure until they finally folded and it has been that way since he came up to featherweight, Hamed had the power to stop someone in a second, and that fate is what I think Pacquiao would endure if decided to go straight at Hamed. And I doubt he is a better counter puncher then Barerra so, I think Hamed would stop him.
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    Default Re: OR whAT ABOUT PACMAN VS HAMED how would that have been?

    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Just because Pac whooped Barerra doesn't mean he would whoop Naseem Hamed.

    Now I would have been on that boat a small while ago but ever since i came back to the forum I really truly started watching Hamed's earlier fights prior to him coming to America and needless to say I was impressed.

    Hamed had such ungodly power it was scary and Pacquiao does get hit a lot, I don't stretch to say I think Hamed would knock out Pacquiao. Just on the principle that he comes forward most of the time and he didn't impress me against Solis.

    I've read what people said that it's about who you fight too, but at the end of the day, competition or not you cannot doubt Hamed's speed and/or power or even his counter punching in his pre america days. Doesn't matter who he used them against but the fact that he had them and was well schooled in those areas. And they were undoubtably THERE and you can't ignore the fact he had them regardless of who he faced. You look at someone like that guy who knocked out everyone in the first round no one is going around saying who he does it against they say that regardless of that he has true power. So I give that same benefit to Naseem Hamed. regardless of who he fought he had ungodly power and blistering speed.

    Now Barerra beat Hamed by taking away his greatest asset, his power, with his counter punching stand back and jab style he also circled away from Hamed's left hand too. In fact I think the one time Hamed got in a huge solid left hand was the moment right prior to Barerra smashing his head into the corner. And now that I look back on it, it may have been a veteran move by Barerra to buy time(not minding the point deduction because he knew he had it won) because I don't think people remember how hard Hamed hit Barerra prior to that moment, because Barerra did look stunned.


    However, Pacquiao wouldn't take away Hamed's power, in fact he would more then likely encourage it. I think they would both hit the canvas, but Hamed had that unnatural power that was also a one punch power, and I've never seen Pacquiao "recently" RECENTLY, stop anyone with one punch(Solis the exception) the rest of the time Pacquiao just overwhelmed them with pressure until they finally folded and it has been that way since he came up to featherweight, Hamed had the power to stop someone in a second, and that fate is what I think Pacquiao would endure if decided to go straight at Hamed. And I doubt he is a better counter puncher then Barerra so, I think Hamed would stop him.


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    Difinitely, Naz has the punchers chance like any other past Pac's victims.

    You've never seen Pacquiao recently stop anyone with one punch because he has gone smarter against his opponents lately.

    He doesn't just attack and be counter punched. He's now more mature and more aware of danger.

    But hes still have the same trademark though... and that is NOT being scared to go toe to toe with anyone - blood and guts war!

    Naz's style is very predictable. He's like a Matador in the ring. But the slow bull (MAB) tagged him many times.

    With Naz's hands below his waiste most of the time, face expose, and taunting show boat dance,... he would eat a lot of Pac's right hook, and straight lefts.








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    come on hamed is not in pacs level, his power was overrated his whole career was overrated until mab expose him as the clown he really was :P trueth hurts hamed fans

    Long live the MAB MAN for getting rid of the clown hamed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain
    come on hamed is not in pacs level, his power was overrated his whole career was overrated until mab expose him as the clown he really was :P trueth hurts hamed fans

    Long live the MAB MAN for getting rid of the clown hamed
    I agree. Hamed was just overhyped and overrated. And MAB indeed exposed him.

    Majesty, good video footage. Great start to hype Naz's name again.

    Good seeing Hamed jumping off ship

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    PACMAN IS TWICE THE FIGHTER HAMED IS HE WINS BY EARLY KO FOR ME

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    naz would have knocked pacman out.....naz style is perfectly suited to pacmans go forward style...perfectly suited...barrera won the bout against naz because he fooled the public and nazs team by telling them prefight that he was gona make it a war and attack naz which is exactly wat he didnt do...and sat back waited while naz had to throw the punches and opened himself right up for the barrera counter.....pacmans style is too offensive for him to do this he would have gone straight for the weaving and bobbing head of naz and two gud whaackd from nazs right video game over pacman beaten.....the barrera the packman beat was no where near the man naz lost to that night.....if u look closely at naz and barrerra fight u can see how focused and intent barrerra was on beaten nazzz(check barrerras eyes out)...problem with naz was that he just gaved up after that lose never to fight seriously again thats why in my eyes he never was a real champ...real champs lose and come back even hungrier to avenge there loss

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather+Mosley
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    2 very exciting offensive fighters, that are wide open and have defense pretty low on their priority list in the ring... Lets just say this isin't goint to the judges

    Hard to say... Naz had devestating power and cat like reflexes, Pac is reminescent of the Tazmanian Devil just a nonstop pressure punching whirlwind..... definetly would be a FOTY candidate
    no its really not hard to say..

    against who did naz have catlike reflexes, against the one and only elite guy he fought, or the huys brought in, to make him look good..??we all know the answer to that one..

    the difference is, that while naz looked powerfull and quick against b-level opponents, pac has done it against simply the best..

    kevin kelley was more than b-rated
    Kelley is b-rated. he was knocked out by Espinosa who was b-rated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft
    Quote Originally Posted by Majesty
    Just because Pac whooped Barerra doesn't mean he would whoop Naseem Hamed.

    Now I would have been on that boat a small while ago but ever since i came back to the forum I really truly started watching Hamed's earlier fights prior to him coming to America and needless to say I was impressed.

    Hamed had such ungodly power it was scary and Pacquiao does get hit a lot, I don't stretch to say I think Hamed would knock out Pacquiao. Just on the principle that he comes forward most of the time and he didn't impress me against Solis.

    I've read what people said that it's about who you fight too, but at the end of the day, competition or not you cannot doubt Hamed's speed and/or power or even his counter punching in his pre america days. Doesn't matter who he used them against but the fact that he had them and was well schooled in those areas. And they were undoubtably THERE and you can't ignore the fact he had them regardless of who he faced. You look at someone like that guy who knocked out everyone in the first round no one is going around saying who he does it against they say that regardless of that he has true power. So I give that same benefit to Naseem Hamed. regardless of who he fought he had ungodly power and blistering speed.

    Now Barerra beat Hamed by taking away his greatest asset, his power, with his counter punching stand back and jab style he also circled away from Hamed's left hand too. In fact I think the one time Hamed got in a huge solid left hand was the moment right prior to Barerra smashing his head into the corner. And now that I look back on it, it may have been a veteran move by Barerra to buy time(not minding the point deduction because he knew he had it won) because I don't think people remember how hard Hamed hit Barerra prior to that moment, because Barerra did look stunned.


    However, Pacquiao wouldn't take away Hamed's power, in fact he would more then likely encourage it. I think they would both hit the canvas, but Hamed had that unnatural power that was also a one punch power, and I've never seen Pacquiao "recently" RECENTLY, stop anyone with one punch(Solis the exception) the rest of the time Pacquiao just overwhelmed them with pressure until they finally folded and it has been that way since he came up to featherweight, Hamed had the power to stop someone in a second, and that fate is what I think Pacquiao would endure if decided to go straight at Hamed. And I doubt he is a better counter puncher then Barerra so, I think Hamed would stop him.


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    Difinitely, Naz has the punchers chance like any other past Pac's victims.

    You've never seen Pacquiao recently stop anyone with one punch because he has gone smarter against his opponents lately.

    He doesn't just attack and be counter punched. He's now more mature and more aware of danger.

    But hes still have the same trademark though... and that is NOT being scared to go toe to toe with anyone - blood and guts war!

    Naz's style is very predictable. He's like a Matador in the ring. But the slow bull (MAB) tagged him many times.

    With Naz's hands below his waiste most of the time, face expose, and taunting show boat dance,... he would eat a lot of Pac's right hook, and straight lefts.


    you said it best. naz's will go down easy because of his style. barrera schooled him with slow jabs. how much more with PAcquaio's whirlwind punches.

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    2 very exciting offensive fighters, that are wide open and have defense pretty low on their priority list in the ring... Lets just say this isin't goint to the judges

    Hard to say... Naz had devestating power and cat like reflexes, Pac is reminescent of the Tazmanian Devil just a nonstop pressure punching whirlwind..... definetly would be a FOTY candidate
    no its really not hard to say..

    against who did naz have catlike reflexes, against the one and only elite guy he fought, or the huys brought in, to make him look good..??we all know the answer to that one..

    the difference is, that while naz looked powerfull and quick against b-level opponents, pac has done it against simply the best..

    kevin kelley was more than b-rated
    Kelley is b-rated. he was knocked out by Espinosa who was b-rated.
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    Hammed was nothing more than a gimmick with a big A$$ mouth. Pacman would apply so much pressure to him, Nas probably would $hit his trunks. It wouldn't even be close, Pacman would Fuk him up.

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    Kevin Kelley manged to deck prince a number of times because of Balance problems, i think that pac's southpaw style and additional would result in prince being on the canvas more often and losing a wide UD due to 10-8 rds.
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    Wonder what hindsight says now

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    Wonder what hindsight says now
    Not much because the Featherweight version of Manny Pacquiao, was still very raw.

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