Thread: They lost to the best

This thread is dedicated to very good fighters, who perhaps never reached greatness who had plenty of losses but only to the best. The Juan Laporte Post gave me the idea.

I'll start with Jose Louis Ramirez (102-9), from Mexico who lost to

Pernell Whitaker
Julio Cesar Chavez
Hector Camacho
Edwin Rosario
Ray Mancini
Alexis Arguello
Ruben Olivares
+ one loss early in his career and another to Coggi (who I wouldn't call a great) at the end

Oscar De La Hoya springs to mind. B-Hop
Sugar Shane
Tito
Floyd..

thomas hearns...hagler and leonard

vargas..shane,tito,oscar

Jerry Quarry
George Chuvalo

Originally Posted by zzz

This thread is dedicated to very good fighters, who perhaps never reached greatness who had plenty of losses but only to the best. The Juan Laporte Post gave me the idea.

I'll start with Jose Louis Ramirez (102-9), from Mexico who lost to

Pernell Whitaker
Julio Cesar Chavez
Hector Camacho
Edwin Rosario
Ray Mancini
Alexis Arguello
Ruben Olivares
+ one loss early in his career and another to Coggi (who I wouldn't call a great) at the end

Ettiene Whittiker as well, but great list except for Mancini.!

How could you forgot Roberto Duran!?

Felix Trinidad

joe frazier
popo frietas
how about zab judah ?

George Foreman
Gene Tunney

got 2 be all of alis, durans, robinsons, jones jrs, and of corse hattons opponents. basically u might as well of just made the topic name who was the best fighters of all tine. peace

Vargas=Trinidad,Dela Hoya,Mosley,.........Wright

hmmm this thread didn't really turn out like I expected. Basically I had looked for fighters who had fought and lost to a lot of the greats without ever really being considered great themselves. So guys like Hearns & Duran, and every guy RJJ faced ( except the ones who beat him) don't really fit the mold, guys like Ramirez, LaPorte, Quarry, would.

Interesting though that Duran is considered by many "experts" to be greater than everyone who ever beat him, but I think we've already had that thread.

Originally Posted by zzz

hmmm this thread didn't really turn out like I expected. Basically I had looked for fighters who had fought and lost to a lot of the greats without ever really being considered great themselves. So guys like Hearns & Duran, and every guy RJJ faced ( except the ones who beat him) don't really fit the mold, guys like Ramirez, LaPorte, Quarry, would.

Interesting though that Duran is considered by many "experts" to be greater than everyone who ever beat him, but I think we've already had that thread.

will Frank Bruno do ya

Three defeats to the two greatest heavyweights of his era, plus two others to world champs (actually was Smith world champ?)

Bruno? I wouldn't have picked him, because there aren't that many greats he lost to. only two.

Zab, Botha, S. Branco, M. Medina