Thread: Was Holyfield Past His Prime Against Lewis?

Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

yeh yeh yeh... he beat every oppenent put in front of him, never ducked anyone. Beat every fighter of his generation. It was the US fighters who were ducking him, belts being thrown on dustbins and all that. boo hoo hoo.....

Intelligence at its best please lets stick to the point, I want proof of your so called FACT that Holyfield ducked him till he had no choice but to fight him C'mon junior stand by your comments and man up!!

Well i think you'll agree that certain american's ducked him? e.g. Mr Tyson for a long time, im i dontt have any evidence about Holyfield ducking him, but he didnt want any part of him for a long time, that i have heard a lot of.

and give the Junior shite a rest, its not big and its not clever.

Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

i dontt have any evidence about Holyfield ducking him, but he didnt want any part of him for a long time,

Sure thing Vienna Sausage (sorry couldnt resist) again you make a claim about one of the best blood and guts fighters especially one that epitomises everything courage is in a Boxing ring, like it is bible or something but yet you have ABSOLUTEY NOTHING to substantiate that claim... Then you have a problem with the reprucussions

you calld Lewis a bitch ass, hhmmm let me think. he gave a beat down to everyone of your boys, and no im not biased towards US fighters, cause some of my favourite fighters are American pal. My simple fact is he beat every fighter put in front of him, only had one legit loss (Mccall fight should of gone on) and bowe and tyson admitted to bottling getting in the ring with him. I have heard before that Holyfield ducked him, i have no thing to back it up granted.

Admit no one could live with him in a ring while he was about.

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

ok then, but what was the age difference when they fought, im not exactly sure but it cant be more than two years. Why was Holyfield so past his prime and Lewis wasnt....

Dont forget Holyfield ducked Lewis like Tyson did untill they had no where else to turn.

FACT

Fact my azz, you are so biased against American fighters its ridiculous... Take your meedly mouth "FACT" and shove it were the sun dont shine junior...... Holyfield Ducked no one.. Ever!!!!! not a bitch a** lewis who got KO'D by Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall... What the hell was Lewis doing when guys like Tyson, Holyfield and 40 + year old Foreman were strong and in the mix..... I'll tell you NOTHING!!!!!

WOWzers...
even tho we had our differences..CC for b*tch slappin the livin bajesus out of that fo0l.

Originally Posted by Big_Deuce

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

ok then, but what was the age difference when they fought, im not exactly sure but it cant be more than two years. Why was Holyfield so past his prime and Lewis wasnt....

Dont forget Holyfield ducked Lewis like Tyson did untill they had no where else to turn.

FACT

Fact my azz, you are so biased against American fighters its ridiculous... Take your meedly mouth "FACT" and shove it were the sun dont shine junior...... Holyfield Ducked no one.. Ever!!!!! not a bitch a** lewis who got KO'D by Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall...   What the hell was Lewis doing when guys like Tyson, Holyfield and 40 + year old Foreman were strong and in the mix..... I'll tell you NOTHING!!!!!

WOWzers...
even tho we had our differences..CC for b*tch slappin the livin bajesus out of that fo0l.

Returned   Still cant believe the ridiculous claim, when all Evander ever talked about througout his whole career was unifying and being the Lineal Heavyweight champ of the world... Duck Lewis Please!!! save the nonsense for someone who hasnt followed Evanders career like I have

Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

you calld Lewis a bitch a**, hhmmm let me think. he gave a beat down to everyone of your boys, and no im not biased towards US fighters, cause some of my favourite fighters are American pal. My simple fact is he beat every fighter put in front of him, only had one legit loss (Mccall fight should of gone on) and bowe and tyson admitted to bottling getting in the ring with him. I have heard before that Holyfield ducked him, i have no thing to back it up granted.

Admit no one could live with him in a ring while he was about.

Its funny how you say that holyfield ducked lewis for so many years. But then he fights him twice? Holyfield has never ducked anyone, the man demolished the cruiserweight division, then conditioned himself enough to move to the heavyweight division and became one of the toughest HW of all time. You ARE being biased and its deffinately clear in your arguments. All you can repeat is that lewis has beatin every man infront of him. This is true, but it doesn’t let any light on the subject that lennox lewis did not

Beat Holyfield or Tyson in his prime,

Got Sparked by one punchers TWO TIMES

Gave up his ibf and wba belts not to fight ruiz (can debate it all you want, ruiz was #1 contender @ the time)

Fought Vitali klitschko (vitali only having 11 days to train for the champ) lewis got lucky when vitali got cut on his eye, he was losing on all score cards, his punch count was decreasing every round, (even his jab, Lewis with no jab = yea u know it) THEN RETIRED instead of fighting vitali on rematch that he PROMISED after the fight.

You’re the only person I have ever heard describing someones prime having to do with their AGE. It aint their age it’s the battles they endured, years in the game, and punishment taken. And with all those characteristics holyfield was Past his prime.

Next time when you want to have an argument bring some facts to the table because this “ I HAVE HEARD” bullSh*t is a mediocre (at best) attempt to try and prove anything.

Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

My simple fact is he beat every fighter put in front of him, only had one legit loss (Mccall fight should of gone on) and bowe and tyson admitted to bottling getting in the ring with him. I have heard before that Holyfield ducked him, i have no thing to back it up granted.

Admit no one could live with him in a ring while he was about.

Uh no I wont admit to something thats speculative and highly unlikely.... Also I never liked Riddick Bowe and congrats Lewis beat an out of shape uninterested shot Mike Tyson that was consequenly beaten by Holyfield already... Suprise, Suprise

I hate to break in on a heated debate but Evander was past his prime against Lewis. It is silly to think otherwise..

Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

you calld Lewis a bitch a**, hhmmm let me think. he gave a beat down to everyone of your boys, and no im not biased towards US fighters, cause some of my favourite fighters are American pal. My simple fact is he beat every fighter put in front of him, only had one legit loss (Mccall fight should of gone on) and bowe and tyson admitted to bottling getting in the ring with him. I have heard before that Holyfield ducked him, i have no thing to back it up granted.

Admit no one could live with him in a ring while he was about.

NAH your not biased,

Originally Posted by JT Rock

Originally Posted by gudnite vienna

My simple fact is he beat every fighter put in front of him, only had one legit loss (Mccall fight should of gone on) and bowe and tyson admitted to bottling getting in the ring with him. I have heard before that Holyfield ducked him, i have no thing to back it up granted.

Admit no one could live with him in a ring while he was about.

Uh no I wont admit to something thats speculative and highly unlikely.... Also I never liked Riddick Bowe and congrats Lewis beat an out of shape uninterested shot Mike Tyson that was consequenly beaten by Holyfield already... Suprise, Suprise

Yea Evander must of loosen'd the mike tyson Jar for Lennox lewis lmao.

Originally Posted by miles

I hate to break in on a heated debate but Evander was past his prime against Lewis. It is silly to think otherwise..

I do agree with you Miles and Evander gave a hell of a go anyway

Not a big fan of either boxers,but yes he was well past his best work then

man, that might of been the fastest beatdown someone ever got on here lol...
Anyways miles...I think it goes without sayin that i agree as well.

Originally Posted by Big_Deuce

man, that might of been the fastest beatdown someone ever got on here lol...
Anyways miles...I think it goes without sayin that i agree as well.

Of course you agree. Its a bloody silly thread!