Thread: Wlad's NEXT IBF MANDATORY

Originally Posted by Punisher136

I'm not betting you because i never said Wlad was overrated, in fact on numerous occasion's i've said (regardless of how sad the division is) that he is the best out there (and again i'll say until september comes around). I still say brewster will win by late ko. I'm not just changing my mind because you say something.

Originally Posted by Fire

pun said: i blindly say klitchko is the best in the division...

the ring, espn, fightnews and fire says wlad is the best in the division..

come to think of it so do u pun because u cant name a fighter that would beat him (not one that you would bet on anyways)

Vitali for one
Peter would in a rematch
I'd put my money on povetkin in a few years
There's also a few up and comers i'm undecided on.

truthfully i was going to let all this slide and leave it alone but f****g please YOUR WHOLE POINT IS HE IS OVERRATED IN THE EYES OF HIS FANS.......

i scored real high recently on a reading test and one of the basic principles of reading is seeing the main point.... i without a doubt think that your main point was he is overrated and doesnt belong to be on top of the division...

your choices to who is the best HW is peter who klitchko already beat and who no one rates #1 or his brother who hasnt been active in a couple of years....

i think that should prove to you that klicthko should be #1 rated HW..

if that dont prove it to you well like i said the ring, espn, fightnews, commentators and most all good posters on here agrees with me...

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

I'm not betting you because i never said Wlad was overrated, in fact on numerous occasion's i've said (regardless of how sad the division is) that he is the best out there (and again i'll say until september comes around). I still say brewster will win by late ko. I'm not just changing my mind because you say something.

Originally Posted by Fire

pun said: i blindly say klitchko is the best in the division...

the ring, espn, fightnews and fire says wlad is the best in the division..

come to think of it so do u pun because u cant name a fighter that would beat him (not one that you would bet on anyways)

Vitali for one
Peter would in a rematch
I'd put my money on povetkin in a few years
There's also a few up and comers i'm undecided on.

truthfully i was going to let all this slide and leave it alone but f****g please YOUR WHOLE POINT IS HE IS OVERRATED IN THE EYES OF HIS FANS.......

i scored real high recently on a reading test and one of the basic principles of reading is seeing the main point.... i without a doubt think that your main point was he is overrated and doesnt belong to be on top of the division...

your choices to who is the best HW is peter who klitchko already beat and who no one rates #1 or his brother who hasnt been active in a couple of years....

i think that should prove to you that klicthko should be #1 rated HW..

if that dont prove it to you well like i said the ring, espn, fightnews, commentators and most all good posters on here agrees with me...

I name fighters and all of a sudden you just try to discredit me all together. Can't get a break i guess.

Originally Posted by Fire

I want to make clear that i like klitchko(he is my fav fighter) because he is a good man... he helps kids in africa and eastern europe.... i like him as a person....

and he kicks a$$

He should run for miss universe next year out of the ukraine then.

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter

wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..

most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....

but haters hate its your job


hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...

this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...

I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.

i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not

No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.

Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.

I second every good sense comment Punisher posted and would like to add that please don't expect that a fighter who was knocked out like that to go after his executioner like he's head hunting, Klitchko is no Floyd Patterson to go for it after being beaten that bad, he hopes to wear down this guy and leave him no alternative but to be halted by the ref

OK DORF jump in the bet... change your name to klitchko if klitchko wins...

OR IS ALL THE KLITCHKO HATERS TALKIN TONIGHT

i'm putting my neck on the line.... i think wlad has a 2/1 odds of winning so i think there is a very real possibility for klitch to lose and for me to look kinda of dumb...

but i wouldnt go to a fighters thread and point out all the reasons why he is overrated and predict my fighter would knock him out... unless i had the b@lls to bet...

Fire, now I and Punisher r Klitschko haters, u r crackin up, my bro... Man, I can't risk my neck on a fight that can go either way... Besides, I believe Wlad can keep Lamon at the end of his long jab and swallow up one or two blasts when the smaller guy slips and scores all the way to the finish line. What I do not symphatize with is your desperation to see Lamon flat on da deck 2 prove ur point in the most egocentric, one-dimensional perspective on pro box today, which by any means is true, Klitschko was owned BIG TIME by the relentless attack of Lamon as clearly as he was discouraged for hitting the deck every time Corrie would just let his left hand go ( actually Williamson dropped him the very same way before the lucky head-butt occured) and then Peter who is a sucker for a punch and had Wlad's fuel leakin 4 luv touches here and there... Wlad may resemble a beautiful Greek God but Manny is spending white nights to keep his mind together and JT's and Cintron's, poor Manny Steward

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Big_Deuce

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

With or without the rabbit punches?
what a joke

Peter's like 8 inches shorter than wlad, how the F*** can he rabbit punch him?

man, you can not be any where close tp being serious?
first off peter is 6 inches shorter, have you ever heard of a thing called "reach"? how the fuck would peter ever get a headshot if he couldnt reach there? jesus christ dude make sense.

People who want the brothers to fight are fucking ridiculous....when EVER have 2 brothers fought a pro boxing match against each other The Baer's didn't do it.....The Spinks' didn't do it.....the Peterson's won't do it......so WHY ask the Klitschko's to do it?


Next Wladimir should fight a title holder and if he doesn't get that chance he should fight Nicolay Valuev and maybe he should give Sanders a rematch....if he beat Corrie that would send a HUGE message to the world that he won't be stopped by anyone anymore....of course it's a huge risk with little reward but hey whatever fight makes sense and seems to be a competitive fight he should make.

No more Ray Austin's though....the IBF needs to get some fighters up there!!!

....hate to say it but I do believe I would rather watch Wladimir destroy Evander Holyfield than fight either Byrd or Brock.




A fight vs Hasim Rahman wouldn't be bad either







...where are all the James Toney fans?

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

I'm not betting you because i never said Wlad was overrated, in fact on numerous occasion's i've said (regardless of how sad the division is) that he is the best out there (and again i'll say until september comes around). I still say brewster will win by late ko. I'm not just changing my mind because you say something.

Originally Posted by Fire

pun said: i blindly say klitchko is the best in the division...

the ring, espn, fightnews and fire says wlad is the best in the division..

come to think of it so do u pun because u cant name a fighter that would beat him (not one that you would bet on anyways)

Vitali for one
Peter would in a rematch
I'd put my money on povetkin in a few years
There's also a few up and comers i'm undecided on.

truthfully i was going to let all this slide and leave it alone but f****g please YOUR WHOLE POINT IS HE IS OVERRATED IN THE EYES OF HIS FANS.......

i scored real high recently on a reading test and one of the basic principles of reading is seeing the main point.... i without a doubt think that your main point was he is overrated and doesnt belong to be on top of the division...

your choices to who is the best HW is peter who klitchko already beat and who no one rates #1 or his brother who hasnt been active in a couple of years....

i think that should prove to you that klicthko should be #1 rated HW..

if that dont prove it to you well like i said the ring, espn, fightnews, commentators and most all good posters on here agrees with me...

I name fighters and all of a sudden you just try to discredit me all together. Can't get a break i guess.

Originally Posted by Fire

I want to make clear that i like klitchko(he is my fav fighter) because he is a good man... he helps kids in africa and eastern europe.... i like him as a person....

and he kicks a$$

He should run for miss universe next year out of the ukraine then.

try to discredit you all together??..... the ring magazine, espn, fightnews, and most posters on here discredit you.. for you saying wlad is not the best current HW..

so how did you like the fight.... I bet your glad you didnt bet....

dont run your mouth and if your afraid to back it up.... your all talk... i encourage others to read our debate earlier to see what i'm talking about....

....don't take it personal, Punisher is just pissed because everyone knows he PROMISED to give up hating on Wlad after Wlad beat Lamon.


So we're giving him a night grace period to come to grips with having to try and find a new heavyweight to hate on.







SUCK IT PUNISHER! You can't post anymore shit about Wlad

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by Fire

Originally Posted by Punisher136

Originally Posted by SalTheButcher

Originally Posted by Dorfmeister

I find most amusing that people are looking for the next IBF heavyweight title mandatory challenger and call it Wlad's next mandatory when Klitschko faces Brewster tonight - is this some sort of bizarre prayer/spell so that Wlad comes out looking like he's the ruler in the Division? I mean, do you remember referee Robert Byrd carrying a 6 '6'' tall guy looking more like an earthquake survivor than a 240 pounds dominant hwt fighter not a very long time ago and against that same Brewster Needless to say I don't root for Wlad or for Lamon but this one seems to become much closer than what would transpire from this post...

the fight wasnt close AT ALL, big vladdy DOMINATED brewster, that was back before big vladdy conserved his energy, he doesnt get tired anymore, and even when he took like 10 straight shots from brewster he didnt fall, it was exaustion that eventually put him down

He hit the deck 4 times against sanders (and i don't wanna hear "He was exhausted" because that S*** happened in rd2) and more recently 3 times against peter. Most people will tell you if peter had some stamina, he would've won that fight by a landslide.

i thought stamina was what people like slam klitchko for..now you are using it for an excuse for peter

wlad has and avg at worst chin... sanders, peter, and brewster could put ANY MAN on the mat... wlads knock downs had more to do with defense than having a weak chin..

most boxers who gets floored 3 times by his opponents and still wins is concidered to have a heart of a champion...but when wlad does that exact thing against peter it oh well (peter was tired,klicthko is overrated,) all that bullsh@t rather than YEAH HE TOOK SOME OF THE BEST SHOTS BY ONE OF THE HARDEST PUNCHERS TODAY AND STILL DOMINATED THE LATES ROUNDS.....

but haters hate its your job


hey punisher wanna bet turning your name to klitchko and I'll turn my name into whoever you decide?? if klitchko loses tonight.. since klitchko is so overrated...

this is a dangerous fight for klitchko tonight... i still think brewster is one of the most exciting HW's and a top 5 HW for sure...

I'm not slamming wlad for having bad stamina, most people who want to try and make wlad's obvious losses disappear use it as an excuse for HIM. Using stamina as an excuse for wlad is way more ridiculous than using it for peter. Wlad was "gased" in round 5 (which is ridiculous for being the "next best thing") and lost to a journeyman. Go ahead and bring about the excuses that wlad was only 22, purity is still a jounreyman and there's no excuse for losing to him at any point in your career if you are indeed in line to become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of ANY era. I'm not a hater, someone needs to not be hugging Wlad's nuts on this forum.

i see ya talking but i dont see ya walking...do u take the bet or not

No because i'm not going around saying brewster is the reincarnation of jesus like some of you people are for wlad. I don't even like brewster. You need to accept that wlad has lost in the past and he's not as good as everyone pegs him to be. Wether he wins this fight or not, he still has LEGIT (and i emphasize that word) loses to sanders and brewster (regardless of what excuses you guys wanna make) and an unexcusable loss by any means to purity.

Am i running around here saying "Brewster is gonna ko wlad in 30 seconds"? No. I've said (as you'll find me being cosnistant on in any thread you'll see) that brewster will (t)ko wlad late based on previous precedent that he has an exposable chin and he starts running out of steam in the late rounds. Yes he went into the 7th rounds of the borck and byrd fight without trouble but do brock and byrd have power or a pressure style? No.

I second every good sense comment Punisher posted and would like to add that please don't expect that a fighter who was knocked out like that to go after his executioner like he's head hunting, Klitchko is no Floyd Patterson to go for it after being beaten that bad, he hopes to wear down this guy and leave him no alternative but to be halted by the ref

OK DORF jump in the bet... change your name to klitchko if klitchko wins...

OR IS ALL THE KLITCHKO HATERS TALKIN TONIGHT

i'm putting my neck on the line.... i think wlad has a 2/1 odds of winning so i think there is a very real possibility for klitch to lose and for me to look kinda of dumb...

but i wouldnt go to a fighters thread and point out all the reasons why he is overrated and predict my fighter would knock him out... unless i had the b@lls to bet...

Fire, now I and Punisher r Klitschko haters, u r crackin up, my bro... Man, I can't risk my neck on a fight that can go either way... Besides, I believe Wlad can keep Lamon at the end of his long jab and swallow up one or two blasts when the smaller guy slips and scores all the way to the finish line. What I do not symphatize with is your desperation to see Lamon flat on da deck 2 prove ur point in the most egocentric, one-dimensional perspective on pro box today, which by any means is true, Klitschko was owned BIG TIME by the relentless attack of Lamon as clearly as he was discouraged for hitting the deck every time Corrie would just let his left hand go ( actually Williamson dropped him the very same way before the lucky head-butt occured) and then Peter who is a sucker for a punch and had Wlad's fuel leakin 4 luv touches here and there... Wlad may resemble a beautiful Greek God but Manny is spending white nights to keep his mind together and JT's and Cintron's, poor Manny Steward

well klitchko smoked that a$$.... WAS OWNED BIG TIME BY RELENTLESS BREWSTER DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE FIRST FIGHT..

and oh yeah you two are some of the biggest klitchko haters on here.. if you dont hate klitch and still think klitchko isnt the best HW well you just dont know sh!t then...

Originally Posted by Lyle

....don't take it personal, Punisher is just pissed because everyone knows he PROMISED to give up hating on Wlad after Wlad beat Lamon.


So we're giving him a night grace period to come to grips with having to try and find a new heavyweight to hate on.







SUCK IT PUNISHER! You can't post anymore S*** about Wlad

oh believe me little pun and dorf and the other klitchko haters are relentless in their bias views... they will always hate on him and try to say it like they actually know what they are talking about, i know its hillarious to us but i think they really think they are telling us off lol...

lol i know they are funny

Well until they can find a heavyweight that can beat Wladimir (right now) I can't really see any merit in their posts.

Personally...I think that Vitali should fight Rahman.

Valuev vs Wlad would be great for the biz.

Wlad vs Ruiz, Ibrag, Skelton, or Chagaev would be REALLY nice too.

Also...I know that things can get a bit heated here & there in these coversations...& I aint trying to be a mommy...just a mod...so let's all try not to tell each other to "suckit" or "smoke-it" or things of such colorful nature...not unless it's just a last resort...then & only then...by all means...let the "suckit's" fly.

But let's try to keep it as clean as possible.

Originally Posted by Lyle

Well until they can find a heavyweight that can beat Wladimir (right now) I can't really see any merit in their posts.

well here is their trick.... they pick wlad's opponent this time its brewster to win.. but they wont bet their name on it....

but of course if brewster would have won its owe i told you so he sucks , he's overrated, and all that nonsense..

but i completely agree with you lyle cc to u

...that happens to a lot of fighters...Lennox Lewis never got all the credit he deserved until now. People will look back after Wlad retires and say "Damn he was good!" and "I wish he would come back".....it's just part of the sport and the heavyweight division is the worst about it