Thread: Anyone here thinking Margarito should be speaking English?

Considering the fact that Tony was born in these here United States, should this kid have learned English? Pac man did it and so do did Cotto just to name a few champions who went there.

Ok I am watching the fight and I see Tony's complaint and I am just in round 2. Unfortunately for Tony the high volume of pitter patter punches and jabs are causing more of a smoke screen and added sound effects to fool the judges. To Williams credit, this does not take away the fact that he is keeping Tony from doing what he does in the same area of volume punching. (So he is basicly one upping Tony) Tony is blocking most and I do mean most of those shots. I guess the few that are landing are still more than the ones that Tony is landing which are just as far and in between as Williams' punches. I guess from what I am seeing now, Williams is fighting the smartest fight for himself, just staying far enough on the outside, taking advantage of his reach and speed and throwing pitter patters. (This kid is going to hard to beat but not impossible) I agree with Merchant when he said that not all of Williams' punches are thrown with the same intensity. Anyway.. I am going back to watching the fight. I am enjoying it.

I don't think him speaking english is relevant to how he fights. I think he should try and he may be able to make more of a case the next time he feels he got robbed by stating his case rather than shaking his head at his opponent while the guy is shaking his hand at the end of the fight .. and/or turning up his nose at the decision... that just makes him look like a poor sport.

I think its just another fight where the guy who lost was frustrated and reaching for reasons he got outpointed that night. Magarito is probably used to be the bigger fighter. The reach factor was probably a big frustration. Add to the Williams's work rate and the fact that Williams tied up margarito on the inside. Williams was very beatable though. Especially when he wore himself out early. He was open for an overhand right all night and practically begging for it when he was stumbling out of fatigue.

Margarito did catch a lot of punches on the gloves but .. when offense and defense are at a stale mate, judges have to look at whos the aggressor.. or who's got the better workrate. Its like when morales said he got beat by Raheem because Raheem wouldnt fight him like a man. Yes, its true Raheem spent a lot of the night running and holding.... but your opponent isnt supposed to cooperate with you ... thats what makes it a competition.

Williams seemed to come out with a tactic of stick and move and throw lots of punches... rather than a plan of setting up margarito for something big ... or picking away at a weakness. Had Margarito solved the puzzled, got under Williams punches and worked the body before getting tied up...Williams could have found himself dead in the water with no plan much less a plan B. I also think Williams has reached the point where he will need a better corner soon. One that will help him work smarter instead of harder. If he keeps up that pace for every fight... His career will be shortlived.

....I think speaking English is good for American citizens, I mean it wasn't tele-fucking-mundo interviewing him......I fucking HATE people who won't speak English and are American citizens or hell even visiting the country.

I went out of the country and tried my best to understand foreign languages and use them and so on, it's just a matter of respect.


And before anyone asks YES you can respect where you are while remembering where you are from, it's the way it's supposed to be

....let me add that if you want to speak spanish or italian or whatever in your home feel free but in public or while dealing with customers and stuff it has to be in the language of the land

....and someone teach floyd senior some while you're at it !!

it doesnt really matter if margarito speaks english or not because we've probably heard the last from him unless somebody on versus or fox sports decides to start interviewing fighters that are on the undercard for the occasional david tua or yanqui diaz fights that they show every once in a while, because thats where hes gonna be from here on out

Originally Posted by Lyle

....let me add that if you want to speak Spanish or italian or whatever in your home feel free but in public or while dealing with customers and stuff it has to be in the language of the land

That is why they have promoters, to make the negotiations. That is when they really need to know English. I don't see that speaking a particular language is relevant to set the quality of a boxer, different if they were promoters. There are a lot of Latin boxers, among the greatest of all times, that did not know a word in English. And does this take points on their ranking?? I don't think so. But, I have to admit that speaking English may help to sell your self to some sectors of the public, specially with the horrible translations I am hearing lately.

Good f'n question...you would think someone born in Torrance would speak ingles. Did he move as a child to Mexico? If not how the hell did he get through school? Did he go to school? I dont know but I'm curious a little now....

Originally Posted by Mar

....and someone teach floyd senior some while you're at it !!

LOL, good one. Roger could probably use a Speak and Spell himself,lol.

Ofcourse Margo knows how to speak english. He's got thick accent and just didn't wanna sound funny in the eyes of many viewers.

JMM and MAB spoke broken english when Larry Merchant interviewed them after their bout...

Heck, even Pac doesn't speak english that well but he's trying his best and not ashame of it. Margo should do the same thing too especially knowing that he's an american born citizen.

Originally Posted by Danny_G

Considering the fact that Tony was born in these here United States, should this kid have learned English? Pac man did it and so do did Cotto just to name a few champions who went there.

Ok I am watching the fight and I see Tony's complaint and I am just in round 2. Unfortunately for Tony the high volume of pitter patter punches and jabs are causing more of a smoke screen and added sound effects to fool the judges. To Williams credit, this does not take away the fact that he is keeping Tony from doing what he does in the same area of volume punching. (So he is basicly one upping Tony) Tony is blocking most and I do mean most of those shots. I guess the few that are landing are still more than the ones that Tony is landing which are just as far and in between as Williams' punches. I guess from what I am seeing now, Williams is fighting the smartest fight for himself, just staying far enough on the outside, taking advantage of his reach and speed and throwing pitter patters. (This kid is going to hard to beat but not impossible) I agree with Merchant when he said that not all of Williams' punches are thrown with the same intensity. Anyway.. I am going back to watching the fight. I am enjoying it.

Margarito moved to Mexico when he was about one week old. I don't think he had time to learn English in that one week.

Originally Posted by Lyle

....let me add that if you want to speak spanish or italian or whatever in your home feel free but in public or while dealing with customers and stuff it has to be in the language of the land

Unless you really can't speak English, in which case then that's what good translators are for. And agreeing with my friend Puerto Rican Punch, I haven't seen much in the way of good translators in boxing lately.

Originally Posted by TitoFan

Originally Posted by Lyle

....let me add that if you want to speak spanish or italian or whatever in your home feel free but in public or while dealing with customers and stuff it has to be in the language of the land

Unless you really can't speak English, in which case then that's what good translators are for. And agreeing with my friend Puerto Rican Punch, I haven't seen much in the way of good translators in boxing lately.

Yeah, agreed.....Wladimir and Vitali and Golota and a number of other fighters know english and they use it sometimes better than others. If you know it, use it.


I mainly have issue with people who live their everyday lives in America without at least TRYING to learn english. I'm not a bigot but hey EVERYONE ELSE WHO IMMIGRATED HERE LEARNED IT.

Which is of course completely off topic but oh well

I don't mind hearing Spanish, but I would rather have subtitles than hear the translator switch words around and leave out harsh remarks. I doubt it's possible to do this effectively, but it's just what I'd prefer.

I don't mind German, French, Russian, whatever...

I cannot stand hearing the African tribal languages used. C'mon who are they kiddin' with that crap. I know they're just mumblin nonsense to make it look good.

Originally Posted by BoxingGorilla

I don't mind hearing Spanish, but I would rather have subtitles than hear the translator switch words around and leave out harsh remarks. I doubt it's possible to do this effectively, but it's just what I'd prefer.

I don't mind German, French, Russian, whatever...

I cannot stand hearing the African tribal languages used. C'mon who are they kiddin' with that crap. I know they're just mumblin nonsense to make it look good.

LMAO at that. Funny sh*t, BG.
But speaking about the translators, they bug the sh*t out of me. There's CERTAINLY better translators available out there than what they pass off as translators in these matches. They totally change the questions AND the answers. They leave out stuff, and probably can't remember half the sh*t that's just been said. Geeeeez!!