Thread: I just watched Hamed v Barerra again lol

I have to say for a guy with 30+ fights Hamed is embarrassing , his chin gets higher and higher in the air as the fight goes on.
I never really liked Hamed for his big mouth , but Marco just takes him to school and shows what a great fighter he is , and has an ability to adapt his style for different opponents. This is something Hamed could not do , he had no plan B , i did find it very watchable as it shows a fighter with a sound technique will triumph over a LIMBO DANCER WITH POWER every time
I just wish it had been PACMAN catching Hamed
But anyway you guys tell me your views please

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

I have to say for a guy with 30+ fights Hamed is embarrassing , his chin gets higher and higher in the air as the fight goes on.
I never really liked Hamed for his big mouth , but Marco just takes him to school and shows what a great fighter he is , and has an ability to adapt his style for different opponents. This is something Hamed could not do , he had no plan B , i did find it very watchable as it shows a fighter with a sound technique will triumph over a LIMBO DANCER WITH POWER every time
I just wish it had been PACMAN catching Hamed
But anyway you guys tell me your views please

Personally MAB being one of my all time favourite fighters was fighting a unmotivated untrained shadow of his former self in Prince Nazeem Hamed, im not taking anything away from MAB, but the Naz in the ring that night was not the best of him far from it, he was slow predictable and was only throwing single punches. Just my take on it.

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

I have to say for a guy with 30+ fights Hamed is embarrassing , his chin gets higher and higher in the air as the fight goes on.
I never really liked Hamed for his big mouth , but Marco just takes him to school and shows what a great fighter he is , and has an ability to adapt his style for different opponents. This is something Hamed could not do , he had no plan B , i did find it very watchable as it shows a fighter with a sound technique will triumph over a LIMBO DANCER WITH POWER every time
I just wish it had been PACMAN catching Hamed
But anyway you guys tell me your views please

Personally MAB being one of my all time favourite fighters was fighting a unmotivated untrained shadow of his former self in Prince Nazeem Hamed, im not taking anything away from MAB, but the Naz in the ring that night was not the best of him far from it, he was slow predictable and was only throwing single punches. Just my take on it.

Thats just plain WRONG. How could naz not be motivated for the biggest fight of his life? The reason he wasnt at his best was because Barrera wouldnt let him be at his best, and was giving him a pasting. Face it, that was the best naz ever got, and when he fought a top line opponent he got beaten. That is the Truth.
You are taking away from MAB.

Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

I have to say for a guy with 30+ fights Hamed is embarrassing , his chin gets higher and higher in the air as the fight goes on.
I never really liked Hamed for his big mouth , but Marco just takes him to school and shows what a great fighter he is , and has an ability to adapt his style for different opponents. This is something Hamed could not do , he had no plan B , i did find it very watchable as it shows a fighter with a sound technique will triumph over a LIMBO DANCER WITH POWER every time
I just wish it had been PACMAN catching Hamed
But anyway you guys tell me your views please

Personally MAB being one of my all time favourite fighters was fighting a unmotivated untrained shadow of his former self in Prince Nazeem Hamed, im not taking anything away from MAB, but the Naz in the ring that night was not the best of him far from it, he was slow predictable and was only throwing single punches. Just my take on it.

Thats just plain WRONG. How could naz not be motivated for the biggest fight of his life? The reason he wasnt at his best was because Barrera wouldnt let him be at his best, and was giving him a pasting. Face it, that was the best naz ever got, and when he fought a top line opponent he got beaten. That is the Truth.
You are taking away from MAB.

Agreed.

Naz said to himself,
"I trained my *ss off and did the best I can, and I still got my *rse kicked... I need to get out of this profession!!!"

I watch that again only a few days ago. From the 1st round it didn't look good for Naseem.
Hamed should have been prepared for Barrera. But he had no answers. Barrera fought a great fight & stuck to his game plan.

The Prince impressed me in taking the lose like a man though!

Barrera ramming Hamed face first into the turn buckle never gets old

Originally Posted by Gyrokai

Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

I have to say for a guy with 30+ fights Hamed is embarrassing , his chin gets higher and higher in the air as the fight goes on.
I never really liked Hamed for his big mouth , but Marco just takes him to school and shows what a great fighter he is , and has an ability to adapt his style for different opponents. This is something Hamed could not do , he had no plan B , i did find it very watchable as it shows a fighter with a sound technique will triumph over a LIMBO DANCER WITH POWER every time
I just wish it had been PACMAN catching Hamed
But anyway you guys tell me your views please

Personally MAB being one of my all time favourite fighters was fighting a unmotivated untrained shadow of his former self in Prince Nazeem Hamed, im not taking anything away from MAB, but the Naz in the ring that night was not the best of him far from it, he was slow predictable and was only throwing single punches. Just my take on it.

Thats just plain WRONG. How could naz not be motivated for the biggest fight of his life? The reason he wasnt at his best was because Barrera wouldnt let him be at his best, and was giving him a pasting. Face it, that was the best naz ever got, and when he fought a top line opponent he got beaten. That is the Truth.
You are taking away from MAB.

Agreed.

Naz said to himself,
"I trained my *ss off and did the best I can, and I still got my *rse kicked... I need to get out of this profession!!!"

You obvioulsy havent seen the footage/documentry leading up this fight?? While MAB was training his arse off in the mountains of big bear, Naz was more intrested in bitching about not having the best room at the Casino he was staying and getting beaton up by his sparring partners, the problem with Naz and his shitty entourage is that he believed his hype to much, and he had to many yes men including Suarez and Manny, there was no discipline after he left Ingle, you just have to look at Mannys face when he came to see Naz spar prior to the fight where he looked like an old man and he was sparirng some average Mexican fighters who were showing him up, Manny looked like he saw a ghost, it was that shocking, Naz was no where near his best, bringing Suarez and Manny in was all wrong he lost all the fundamentals he learnt with Ingle and was now just relying on one shot power, you dont have to agree with me but im not hating on MAB thats how i see it i dont really like Naz i think he is a little turd but is very underrated Champion of his era and is only remembered by many as the " overrated fighter who got schooled", Naz was much more than that, but when his family took over his career and basically tried to milk every penny out of the NAZ brand, thats when it started to go down hill.
Im not saying that Naz would ever beat Barerra i cant make that prediction, but if you think that was Naz at his peak you have not seen much of Naz, if you think it was the level of MAB (Which i do obviouly plays a big part, hes aliving boxing legend) it was more down to Naz, go watch his final fight against an old European fighter called Calvo, who was probably a grade F opponent, Naz was absolutly shocking, the stadium was emptying before the 11th round he was that bad, like i said he had lost his hunger he had made a shit load of cash, and was living the high life, his heart was not in boxing no longer, hence the reason he hasnt fought since he was 27/28. Naz could of made maybe another 10/20 million pounds maybe more if he realy wanted but his fat lazy arse is not in and wasnt prior to the MAB fight.

I thought Barerra excecuted a simple plan perfectly. As alluded to above, Naz couldn't revert to a plan B because he was what he was.

There was also a genuine rumour (not neccesarily a true one) that Naz wasn't the same after he had his teeth done...

Anyway, what a character. I love the Kevin Kelly fight

Originally Posted by Steelie

I thought Barerra excecuted a simple plan perfectly. As alluded to above, Naz couldn't revert to a plan B because he was what he was.

There was also a genuine rumour (not neccesarily a true one) that Naz wasn't the same after he had his teeth done...

Anyway, what a character. I love the Kevin Kelly fight

Brendan Ingles teeth theory.


Is it just a coincidence that Naz never put on one stunning/tidy/impressive performance in the States? Some guys don't travel well.

Or fiperform as well once they leave Frank Warren...

Hatton has done well without Warren, otherwise he would be defending the WBU title for the 20 defence by now.

Naz during his prime would have put up a better effort than the one he did with MAB, and in my opinion beaten him, like Pacquia did, but he was rich and unmotivated but there is no shame in loosing to MAB on your record.

I watched the fight again last week and I can't believe how one sided it really was. I must have been in denial when I said it was a lot closer. Barrera just had his way with NAZ but patience was his greatest asset. Naz had been talking about this fight for ages. To say he was not prepared does not sit well with his claims to come to America with comments like: "I want Barrera, I will beat Barrera", etc..
I still enjoy watching NAZ fights. Very entertaining. Barrera was all business that night. It was personal.

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Thats just plain WRONG. How could naz not be motivated for the biggest fight of his life? The reason he wasnt at his best was because Barrera wouldnt let him be at his best, and was giving him a pasting. Face it, that was the best naz ever got, and when he fought a top line opponent he got beaten. That is the Truth.
You are taking away from MAB.

Naz didnt train properly for the fight.Naz was a million miles away from his best and it wasnt to do with MAB not letting him.

He never even did his flip in the ring when did you ever not see Hamed do that? He also had problems with his gloves that night!

He should of admitted he had a bad night and gone for a rematch,where he trained for the fight and we would of saw a better Naz.But he got beat and did'nt want to know after that,what a waste of talent.

Originally Posted by nonito (formerly eagle)

Originally Posted by skel1983

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

I have to say for a guy with 30+ fights Hamed is embarrassing , his chin gets higher and higher in the air as the fight goes on.
I never really liked Hamed for his big mouth , but Marco just takes him to school and shows what a great fighter he is , and has an ability to adapt his style for different opponents. This is something Hamed could not do , he had no plan B , i did find it very watchable as it shows a fighter with a sound technique will triumph over a LIMBO DANCER WITH POWER every time
I just wish it had been PACMAN catching Hamed
But anyway you guys tell me your views please

Personally MAB being one of my all time favourite fighters was fighting a unmotivated untrained shadow of his former self in Prince Nazeem Hamed, im not taking anything away from MAB, but the Naz in the ring that night was not the best of him far from it, he was slow predictable and was only throwing single punches. Just my take on it.

Thats just plain WRONG. How could naz not be motivated for the biggest fight of his life? The reason he wasnt at his best was because Barrera wouldnt let him be at his best, and was giving him a pasting. Face it, that was the best naz ever got, and when he fought a top line opponent he got beaten. That is the Truth.
You are taking away from MAB.

Sorry Nonito but I agree with him to a degree. he's not taking anything away from Barrera because he was great, and nobody is saying that even if Naz had showed up, the outcome wouldn't have been the same.

Simply though, Naz was not himself. Everything about that fight was just weird. The ring walk, the part were Buffer handed him the microphone so he could speak in arabic about allah. It just seemed wrong. I remember looking at Naz and thinking he looked a broken man before the fight. There was no confidence about him at all. watch the Kelley ringwalk for a comparison.

Hamed expected Barerra to come forward so he could counter. When Barerra did the opposite Hamed's limitations as a fighter were shown up. He took some good shots round after round, a fighter that's not motivated would look for a way out IMO. He was just completely outboxed.