You only see it occasionally and its more a natural reaction that works really well;
The quick elbow up like an extended bridge to deflect one that comming over the top of the same arm you see it occasionally and instinctivley during a war.
And that other one too we talked about Chris where you have missed ,your arm is straight ,your arms extended and they come over the top of it ,so you leave it out there and just turn your center line to face their arm and it stops it dead.
Both those could have combinations and set footwork put onto them so that they are made to work for you even better: like walking through their blocked arm and covering the other free arm with a hook or rip up the inside as you head out the other way.(nice way out of a corner)
I can see how a rising block can work out of a cross armed defense, but I don't see any redeeming points for using that stance.
In Archie Moore's case, I think he was able to do some nifty moves not so much because he made a wall with his arms, but because his shoulders were square to his opponent which allowed him to use both arms to good effect when he would slip to the inside of his opponent's jab. He'd stop his opponent's right hand while coming in and then bang away with the other hand.
Hmmm, it sounds like a sort of leverage block, like how one fighter's jab can deflect anothers. I like the one you mentioned because of the economy of movement and how it allows you to follow up with a hard right hand.And that other one too we talked about Chris where you have missed ,your arm is straight ,your arms extended and they come over the top of it ,so you leave it out there and just turn your center line to face their arm and it stops it dead.
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I find aggresive Fighting works well for me personaly as i am strong.iv always fought this way and wouldnt change it.Works well with the judges if it goes the distance as they like boxers who go forward
I'd love someone to cross their arms when i can reach them ,you just pin the front one to the rear one as you move in and go to work with your free arm so its no arms verses one nasty one for a second.
Maybe he ment the elbow up at temple level with the same fist down angled across to other side of your chin and the other arm elbow down fist up so its a loose type of peek a boo but can give you protection from below and the space to see, but you have to control them with one arm dropping and the other launching around their attack in a hook as you move (ok to counter those who go low bodily and throw double armed upper cuts when you start to cover up one arm comes down like a bar ,you lean slightly block, step out sideways turn back in and and hook. Unlike the peek a boo where you can just take it on the arms and gloves and wait the opening or go lower and search for one.
Nose to nose You can even go from peek a boo gloves up elbows down (the opening is in between your elbows,) he goes and leans forwrds even lower and throws rising stright shots or uppercuts, you transit to elbow up elbow down as you start to turn for protection so your lower arm contacts and blocks them as you step out you can exchange arms, top arm comes down and makes contact over the top of his arm on the same side your heading out to , the original lower arm follows your leg out and around and is then head hunting him (temple shot) from the unseen side your stepping to, it lands as you turn back to him releasing the side of you thats closer to him by pulling that foot around behind you. Looks unco but your in control and not walking into anything your moving away from the threat and disguising your final intention.
Usually don't visit this part of the forum, but going into my 3rd smoker (3, 2 min rounds, with 16 oz gloves and headgear) I felt the need to get any advice I can.
I'm glad you all have brought up the topic of feints.
I love them.
What works for me is feinting the right hand either by winding it up like I"m gonna throw an overhand right, or just turning my hips and right shouler, and then coming in with a double jab to the head.
Also I like to look at the body, and feint a jab to it, then step in and shoot a stiff single jab to the head.
Also the "stop drop and pop" as my trainer calls it, where you raise your left hand up in front of their face, or even place it on their head, then drop down and fire a straigh right to the solar plexis.
Far as defense goes, covering up seems to work well for me, specially with the 16 oz gloves.
All I can really slip is the jab, then try and jab back or come over the top of their lazy jab with my right hand.
"You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"
I'm still at the bottom a very high mountain (that means just a beginner), so I work on focused tactics.
One round I may just counter. One round I may just find range.
I've been getting into a bat the punch and counter thing for the last few weeks. It's a little more proactive than just catching. Just bat the strike and counter with either punch in the same motion.
Jab right hand
Deep breaths before sparring to relax
One of the best things I have found is always keeping your eyes on the opponents gloves at all times +
mixing it up to be able to throw a lead right cross or left cross for southpaws followed by a jab.
It still amazes me how rarely this is done. When Pavlik fought Sergio Martinez only one time did he throw a lead right and it landed. Jack Lowe never mentioned to Kelly in the corner to try it more often.
Once you have a fighter used to the same rhythm it will be hard to land. Mixing a lead power shot will keep them off balance and help land the jab more effectively thus changing the fight or sparring session as they will have to watch for not only a lead jab but lead from both hands.
Last edited by DogTheBountyHunter; 04-19-2011 at 01:12 AM.
Something that I've always found beneficial is sparring under an agreement to only use certain punches.
Spar 3 rounds only using jabs and crosses.
Spar 3 rounds only allowing jabs and hooks.
It does wonders for learning to dissect patterns and learn to counterpunch effectively
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