This thread was supposed to be about skills not who they beat otherwise i wouldn't have included Taylor.Originally Posted by Mr140
This thread was supposed to be about skills not who they beat otherwise i wouldn't have included Taylor.Originally Posted by Mr140
Well they are way different when it comes to styles Ice it is kinda hard to compare i just through out who they beat beacause some brought it up earlier about what they acomplished
Sorry bro...can't compare PBF with the greats yet. He has some business to take of at welterweights. He needs to beat these guys (Hatton, Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Margarito) Not no 36 year old Baldomir. He needs to fight those in their prime. Take a chance at fighting a real slugger. Until then, their is no way he can be compared with SRL or any other great. Not yet. I hope he doesn't go on and says "I retire" after the Hatton fight. You know Larry Merchant is gonna ask him after the Hatton fight what about Mosley? what about Cotto? If he beats Hatton.
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
With one sentance, you flushed all the credibility you may have had right down the crapper.
You guys are missing the point. We are not saying Floyd is as great as SRL. We are saying he has more TEXTBOOK boxing skills, not who was the better fighter.
And what the hell is with all of you romanticizing Sugar Ray Leonard. "Ohhh Floyd can't be compared to him, Floyd dodges everyone, SRL fought everyone!"
What the fuck? Is this the same SRL who ducked Aaron Pryor his whole career? The same SRL who retired instead of fighting Hagler, came back, won a controversial split decision against Hagler by RUNNING for 12 rounds (something you guys would CRUFICY Floyd for doing), and then retired and would never go near Hagler again? You guys talk like SRL was some kind of ultra male, but he had his history of shady shit and ducking people too.
David Lemieux = Future MW Champ and P4P King
Mista Flicker Agreed SRL got a few little questionable things in his careerOriginally Posted by Beanflicker
Two complete different fighters. Floyd is Floyd and Ray was Ray... Both very gifted but... Floyd's career will have more longetivy based on lack of competition or willingness to step up on Floyds part but...It looks as though Floyd is stepping up and he should do the following...
Fight Ricky = A Duran type Fighter
Fight Cotto = A Hagler like character
Fight Williams = A Hearns like creature
These fights will cement Floyd's legacy IMO.
If Floyd comes out of these fights unscaved, he could be fighting until he is 40 with his style.
Ray took too much punishment and too many risks. Floyd don't take any punishment and he is not a risky fighter in the sense that Ray was.
Floyd is all business while Ray was more of an entertainer in the ring. Both very smart and went about fighting in their own way. Floyd's Defense is good but the tests are in the names above.
Ray would try to eat you up with flurries and secure rounds before the bell sounded and Floyd defends more while eating you up with pop shots thru and thru. Apples and oranges folks.
On point with Pryor.Originally Posted by JT Rock
Pryor was a nightmare. He was the Joe Fraizer of his era. He would have gave Ray a war.
Ray retired becuase of the injury he sustained against Hearns.
He came out of retirement to fight Hagler and then Hagler retired and said he was disgusted and would never come back.
So, should Castillo have quit and retired? He was robbed against Floyd.
Fudge Hagler.
Sugar Ray/Hagler was a good fight. Ray won. Stop crying.
Ice im sorry dude but the Mayweather Corrales fight was not 50/50 Flyd was a 2/9 shot to win the fight, a heavy favourite, he is a great fighter, but not in SRL league imo.Originally Posted by ICE COLD BOXING
Honest guys, not trying to be controversial, i rate prime Shane mosely, just as good as leonard and perhaps ahead of Floyd.Im speaking of Lightweight mosely thru to the mosely that beat De la hoya. I feel he would have beaten Floyd.
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Well mosley was a lighter wieght in his prime then leonard was so it hard for me to compare
And as far as Ray ducking proyer i dont know much on that but he did face a prime hearns and Benitez and those guys are just as hard to beat so i dont know about that but i willl read on it.
Who's whining? I thought Ray gave a masterful performance and I had him winning.Originally Posted by Danny_G
I was just pointing out the hypocrisy in that no one bashed Ray Leonard for running and moving against Hagler, but when Floyd wins a fight by moving and using his slick defense, everyone shits on him.
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Well bean you have a point PBF does get dogged on for his style but the thing that he does do but ray did was he is not very exciting to watch ray looked exiting weither he ran or finished a guy but cc for going against the crowed because it takes two to have a debate.
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