Thread: Yahoo's very first P4P list...What do you guys think???

This was on yahoo this morning

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slu...yhoo&type=lgns

here is the list

10. Sugar Shane Mosley
Points: 13
Record: 44-4, 37 KOs
Status: Interim WBC welterweight champion.
Up next: Fights No. 6 Miguel Cotto for WBA welterweight title in New York on Nov. 10.
2007 results: W12 over Luis Collazo on Feb. 10 to win WBC interim welterweight title.
Analysis: Once considered the pound-for-pound best, Mosley rebounded from back-to-back losses to Winky Wright in 2004 by winning his last five fights.

9. Israel Vazquez
Points: 15
Record: 42-4, 31 Kos
Status: WBC super bantamweight champion.
Up next: Nothing decided, but a rubber match with Rafael Marquez is likely.
2007 results: TKO by 7 by Marquez on March 3 to lose WBC super bantamweight title; TKO 6 over Marquez on Aug. 4 to regain WBC super bantamweight title.
Analysis: Voters were impressed by his war with Marquez and his ability to overcome a loss suffered when a nose injury prevented him from breathing.

8. Winky Wright
Points: 31
Record: 51-4-1, 25 Kos
Status: Middleweight contender
Up next: Nothing certain, but plans a return to middleweight.
2007 results: Lost unanimous decision to Bernard Hopkins in a July 21 light heavyweight bout.
Analysis: Wright would have been No. 2 or No. 3 on this list in January, but is now just 1-1-1 in his last three fights. It's not a good trend.

7. Jermain Taylor
Points: 33
Record: 27-0-1, 17 KOs
Status: WBC, WBO middleweight champion
2007 results: Retained title with unimpressive split decision over Cory Spinks on May 19.
Up next: Fights mandatory challenger Kelly Pavlik in a battle of power punchers on Sept. 29 in Atlantic City.
Analysis: Taylor has a lot to prove, but Pavlik is a perfect style for him and the fight figures to be a shootout.

6. Miguel Cotto
Points: 40
Record: 30-0, 25 KOs
Status: WBA welterweight champion
2007 results: Defended his title twice with TKOs in the 11th, against Oktay Urkal on March 3 and against Zab Judah on June 9.
Up next: Defends his title against No. 10 Sugar Shane Mosley on Nov. 10 in New York.
Analysis: If he defeats Mosley, he is in line to face Mayweather next year in the modern-day version of Leonard-Duran.

5. Bernard Hopkins
Points: 46
Record: 48-4-1, 32 KOs
Status: Light heavyweight champion
2007 results: Scored impressive W12 over No. 9 Winky Wright on July 21.
Up next: Nothing scheduled, unlikely to fight until 2008.
Analysis: Hopkins is as good as ever at 42.

4. Juan Manuel Marquez
Points: 49
Record: 47-3-1, 35 KOs
Status: WBC super featherweight champion.
2007 results: Won title by scoring impressive victory over Marco Antonio Barrera on March 17.
Up next: Defends his title against Rocky Juarez on Sept. 15 in Las Vegas.
Analysis: Marquez has been underrated much of his career, but he's out of the shadows after whipping Barrera.

3. Joe Calzaghe
Points: 62
Record: 43-0, 32 KOs
Status: WBO super middleweight champion.
2007 results: Stopped overmatched challenger Peter Manfredo Jr. in third round on April 7.
Up next: Meets unbeaten Mikkel Kessler for the WBA-WBC-WBO super middleweight belts on Nov. 3 in Cardiff, Wales.
Analysis: Calzaghe is a brilliant boxer with surprising power and has the potential to move up if he gets past Kessler.

2. Manny Pacquiao
Points: 90 (one first-place vote)
Record: 44-3-2, 35 KOs
Status: Super featherweight contender
2007 results: Scored an eighth-round knockout of Jorge Solis in a tuneup fight on April 14.
Up next: Has a rematch with Marco Antonio Barrera set for Oct. 6 in Las Vegas.
Analysis: The fast-handed Filipino is popular because of his aggressive style, but faces a big challenge in Barrera in his next outing

1. Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Points: 99 (nine first-place votes)
Record: 38-0, 24 KOs
Status: WBC welterweight champion
2007 results: Won WBC super welterweight title by winning split decision over Oscar De La Hoya on May 5
Up next: Will meet super lightweight champion Ricky Hatton on Dec. 8 in Las Vegas.
Analysis: Mayweather is the best in the business and the Hatton fight will be a one-sided affair that will prove that point.

Others receiving votes: Wladimir Klitschko, 12; Ricky Hatton, 11; Juan Diaz, 10; Marco Antonio Barrera 8; Rafael Marquez 7; Chad Dawson 6; Oscar De La Hoya 5; Mikkel Kessler 5; Kelly Pavlik 2; Chris John 2; Junior Witter 2; Vernon Forrest 1; Paul Williams 1.

That's what the professionals think. Now tell us what you think. Go to the Yahoo! Sports MMA/Boxing Experts Blog and give us your Top 10.


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As a Brit....I think I can be even handed in questioning whether Hatton should pop in at 9 or 10, and Calzaghe shouldn't yet be as high as no3. Maybe Taylor, Wright or Mosley should be making way for that.

I don't have any quibbles with the rest of it as it stands though.

Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

As a Brit....I think I can be even handed in questioning whether Hatton should pop in at 9 or 10, and Calzaghe shouldn't yet be as high as no3. Maybe Taylor, Wright or Mosley should be making way for that.

I don't have any quibbles with the rest of it as it stands though.

I have seen worse.....over all not too bad though....Better then boxrec that is for sure

Taylor's too high
Mikkel Kessler should be in there
So shoukd Hatton
Calzaghe's too high
who voted for Witter
since when has Taylor been a 'Power Puncher'
and
Hopkins is too low.

Hey, at least i speak my mind and get straigh to the point.

My top 10 would be:

1. Floyd Mayweather
2. Bernard Hopkins
3. Manny Pacquiao
4. Juan Manuel Marquez
5. Miguel Cotto
6. Israel Vazquez
7. Ricky Hatton
8. Shane Mosley
9. Winky Wright
10. Mikkel Kessler

I don't see why Mosley is in there and Hatton isnt. And I don't understand Vazquez being there and Rafa not. Both have great resumes,both have a win over each other so have both together or neither imo. Calzaghe and Cotto are too high! Not bad for a first attempt,I've certainly seen worse!

I like the addition of Vazquez to the list but I hate the ommision of Rafael Marquez.

I would go something like this.

1 Floyd
2 Manny
3 Hopkins
4 Joe C
5 jm marquez
6 Vazquez
7 Winky
8 Hatton
9 R Marquez
10 J Taylor

Cotto is too high i don't know why he is number 6 Calzaghe is too high aswell.

How come 3 and 4 always debatable?

Originally Posted by mikefromstu

I like the addition of Vazquez to the list but I hate the ommision of Rafael Marquez.

I would go something like this.

1 Floyd
2 Manny
3 Hopkins
4 Joe C
5 jm marquez
6 Vazquez
7 Winky
8 Hatton
9 R Marquez
10 J Taylor

CC,that's a really good list. I can see Kessler and Cotto being close to top 10 but would not mind them not being there. Good list though.

I like Shaw's list better then Yahoos by a long shot

JOe should not be in anyones top 3 p4p list.

Bernard should be in the top three.

the top three use to be winky floyd and pac, now its pac floyd bhop (not in order)

Considering Cotto's biggest win is Judah, and Hatton's biggest win is against Tszyu, surely Cotto is a little bit high and Hatton should at least be in the top 10.

well, how do we get to vote?or can we vote there? I would like to put hopkins in higher position though I somewhat agree that he started in the tenth place. Another win will put him in higher rank.

Out of these boxers how many have unified the titles in any weight class?

It's ok not brilliant but then none of these p4p rankings are.

Imo the only p4p ranking list that's worth a dime is mine