ICB sometimes your posts make me laugh.
When you do this...
You'll go into a thread and just post "_________ would destroy _______"
and that's it.
It's so easy to type it and possibly break it down.
Let me guess: Wlads chin & stamina?
Ikes: Skills & Style?

All that is true but still can't really determine the outcome.
Wlads an exceptional fighter and has shown he can get up from the canvas and fight back. Even after all the knockdowns he's been in tell me when has he stayed down on the canvas? He always trys to get back up regardless how hurt he has been. Ike showed tremndous determination and skills early in his career. Take the Tua fight depending on what side of the coin you view you can say it was a hell of performance by Ike or you can also say he had a hard time with Tua? It all depends on how you view it.


Good assesment on Ike TM...

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ICB sometimes your posts make me laugh.
When you do this...
You'll go into a thread and just post "_________ would destroy _______"
and that's it.

I do that to provoke a response so i can get good debate going and its worked hasn't it ?? now i will give you my reasons.

and that's it.
It's so easy to type it and possibly break it down.
Let me guess: Wlads chin & stamina?
Ikes: Skills & Style?

First off Wladimir tires out very quickly now im not sure why because he looks to be in good condition.
Maybe its because of nervous energy like Jermain Taylor ?? But whatever the reason bad stamina vs Ike is big trouble already. Plus Wladimir has suspect chin and against someone like Ike Ibeabuchi who hits like a cannon ball thats already two reason's why he doesn't fair well against Ike.

Wladimir has good skills, and a great jab but he has bad weaknesses that someone like Ike could expose. Ike's work rate is amazing he would force Wladimir to fight hard, i know Wladimir has made some improvements but he isn't exactly hardest guy to hit in the world, slow plodding Peter who is very poor mans Ike Ibeabuchi managed to KD Wladimir 3 times. I really don't think Wladimir would be able to keep up with the pace Ike sets and it would be only a matter of time unti Wladimir starts to badly fade under the high work rate and then Ike lands huge crushing blow on Wladimir's chin and thats all she wrote.

Ike wins by KO/TKO in 6th.

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I can agree with a lot of what you said. To be fair to Peter he's vastly improved A LOT.... He was punching well and was putting punches together. I could def. see an Ike TKO happening but I wouldn't say it so confidently.

Lets be fair,Ike's an "I dont know"
Sort of like how I view baby Joe,until a guy has a target on their back as champ,you just dont know what you have there

Conn would have been a very close fight because he had skill as well as speed. He was the technically more sound fighter, but I can see Jones winning. Burt Sugar actually predicted that off all the LHW in history, Conn is one of the few that might beat Jones. Charles might have been the other. I agree that Jones/Moore would look a lot like Jones/Toney, although I think at LHW, it would be closer because more in his prime wouldn't have been weight drained like Toney was at SMW. I just rewatched Jones Toney and I had forgotten how really lopsided it was for Jones. It was pretty much a shutout, and that's coming from a big Toney fan. I think Moore would have let his hands go a little more and done a better job cutting off the ring, but I would give Jones the edge in the end.

FYI, I didn't break out those names to detract from Jones. It's not Jones's fault that he fought in a relatively weak era for LHW's and he beat who was out their when they were out there. I like it when ATG's get the chance to fight other ATG's in their primes, and Jones didn't have anybody to push him. Even in his absolute prime, Foster, Moore, and Conn would have made interesting, exciting fights where the outcome wasn't a forgone conclusion, like most of Jones Jrs fights.

Tony Ayala vs. Fernando Vargas - both in their primes.

Careful with what you wish for.... Wink

Nothing wrong in good old debate, i enjoy debating with you and i knew you would reply to my comment earlier and then we could debate

If Ike gets released he still could destroy Wlad as Ike will not be 35 till feb he could still be a threat.

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Bring back.....Hagler, Hearns, Leonard, Duran, Pryor, Ali, Tyson, Lopez, Chavez, Frazier, Liston, Marciano, Foster, Holmes, SRR, Lamotta, Louis, Gomez, Benitez please santa....through them all in with todays fighters and bwoiii we would have some SERIOUS match ups on our hands!!