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    Default Create The Best Boxer With Today's Fighters

    This topic has been done a few times but i've changed it slightly.

    Power = Edwin Valero
    Speed = Joe Calzaghe
    Defense = Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Body Punching = Miguel Cotto
    Right hand = Kelly Pavlik
    Jab = Mikkel Kessler
    Left Hand = Manny Pacquiao
    Workrate = Paul Williams
    Luck With The Judges = Jermain Taylor
    Counter Punching = Juan Manuel Marquez
    Chin = Antonio Margarito
    Heart = Juan Diaz




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    Default Re: Create The Best Boxer With Today's Fighters

    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
    This topic has been done a few times but i've changed it slightly.

    Power = Edwin Valero
    Speed = Joe Calzaghe
    Defense = Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Body Punching = Miguel Cotto
    Right hand = Kelly Pavlik
    Jab = Mikkel Kessler
    Left Hand = Manny Pacquiao
    Workrate = Paul Williams
    Luck With The Judges = Jermain Taylor
    Counter Punching = Juan Manuel Marquez
    Chin = Antonio Margarito
    Heart = Juan Diaz



    Pretty much how you had it, but I would put Katsidis in where Juan Diaz is for heart, and put Juan in a "highest workrate" type category. Not saying Diaz doesn't have heart though.

    Also I still think J. Taylor has one of the best jabs in the game, though not as prevalent lately. Chin I would put Andrade.
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    Default Re: Create The Best Boxer With Today's Fighters

    Boxing skills=Floyd
    Offense=Pac
    Defense=Winky
    Tactics=Bhop
    Chin=Andrade


    That is ultimate boxer.

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    Power- David Haye
    Chin- Librado Andrade
    Slickness- Paul Malignaggi
    Work rate- Kassim Ouma/Joe Calzaghe
    Defense- Winky Wright
    Heart- Arturo Gatti
    Over all ability- Floyd Mayweather JR
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    Heres my boxer:

    Boxing Ability - PBF..............(A+)
    Power - Edwin Valero...........(A+)
    Defense - Winky Wright........(A+)
    Ring Generalship - JMM.........(A+)
    Experience - Hopkins............(A+)
    Chin - Librado Andrade......... (A+)
    Stamina - Hopkins................(A+)
    Work Rate - Juan Diaz...........(A+)
    Heart - Michael Katsidis.........(A+)

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    Default Re: Create The Best Boxer With Today's Fighters

    Good list, but I would add footwork and intelligence, although I suppose intelligence could be covered by tactics in Julius' post. I think footwork would have to be Mayweather, and intelligence would be Audley Harrison, because he obviously knows something we don't know.

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    Default Re: Create The Best Boxer With Today's Fighters

    Quote Originally Posted by Ice Cold Boxing
    This topic has been done a few times but i've changed it slightly.

    Power = Edwin Valero
    Speed = Joe Calzaghe
    Defense = Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Body Punching = Miguel Cotto
    Right hand = Kelly Pavlik
    Jab = Mikkel Kessler
    Left Hand = Manny Pacquiao
    Workrate = Paul Williams
    Luck With The Judges = Jermain Taylor
    Counter Punching = Juan Manuel Marquez
    Chin = Antonio Margarito
    Heart = Juan Diaz



    Power = Edwin Valero
    Speed = Amir Kahn
    Defense = Floyd Mayweather Jr
    Body Punching = Ricky Hatton
    Right hand = Kelly Pavlik
    Jab = Jermain Taylor (when he uses it)
    Left Hand = Pacman
    Workrate = Joe Calzaghe
    Chin = Antonio Margarito
    Heart = Michael Katsidis
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    Default Re: Create The Best Boxer With Today's Fighters

    LOL...luck with the judges...

    joel casamayor?..hehe
    mind over speed and power

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    Power- Wlad Klitchsko
    Speed - Amir Khan
    Defense = Floyd Mayweather
    Body Punching - Ricky Hatton
    Right Hand - David Haye
    Jab - Mikkel Kessler
    Let Hand - Enzo Maccarinelli
    Workrate - Joe Calzaghe
    Luck With The Judges - Jermain Taylor
    Chin - Ronald Wright
    Heart - Ricky Hatton

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    Power = Roy Jones Jnr
    Speed = Amir Kahn
    Defense = Floyd Mayweather Jnr
    Body Punching = Shane Mosley
    Right hand = Kelly Pavlik
    Jab = Miguel Cotto (in the Mosley fight)
    Left Hand = Manny Pacquiao
    Workrate = Ricky Hatton
    Counter Punching = Juan Manuel Marquez
    Chin = Shane Mosley
    Heart = Arturo Gatti
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    Default Re: Create The Best Boxer With Today's Fighters

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    Heres my boxer:

    Boxing Ability - PBF..............(A+)
    Power - Edwin Valero...........(A+)
    Defense - Winky Wright........(A+)
    Ring Generalship - JMM.........(A+)
    Experience - Hopkins............(A+)
    Chin - Librado Andrade......... (A+)
    Stamina - Hopkins................(A+)
    Work Rate - Juan Diaz...........(A+)
    Heart - Michael Katsidis.........(A+)
    good list Mick but id change the following :
    power Vlad
    stamina - pacman
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick
    Heres my boxer:

    Boxing Ability - PBF..............(A+)
    Power - Edwin Valero...........(A+)
    Defense - Winky Wright........(A+)
    Ring Generalship - JMM.........(A+)
    Experience - Hopkins............(A+)
    Chin - Librado Andrade......... (A+)
    Stamina - Hopkins................(A+)
    Work Rate - Juan Diaz...........(A+)
    Heart - Michael Katsidis.........(A+)
    good list Mick but id change the following :
    power Vlad
    stamina - pacman
    Believe or not I had it that way but if you notice theres an edit on my post and I changed it.
    For 'power' I said Wladdy because his powers tested against World Class opponents 45 ko's out of 49 wins. On the other hand Edwins perfect KO streak but it's only been tested against 1 World Class opponent. So I went with perfection.
    The 'stamina' I said well Hopkins still trains like in his younger days he doesn't smoke, drink or anything like that. I've never seen him tire out and or run out of gas. Pac on the other hand does have good stamina but IMO the fact that Hopkins been fighting at that level for that long made me put him there.

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    Default Re: Create The Best Boxer With Today's Fighters

    I would have to say workrate Juan Diaz.He throws alot of hard,quick punches and they come in bundles. I like the rest of the guys you have picked Calzaghe,Ouma,Williams are all very good but they don't have that power mixed in if you catch me.

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    Default Re: Create The Best Boxer With Today's Fighters

    Well if I'm allowed to get a little analytical here having the best possible attributes in each category would NOT make the best fighter in the world.

    It's just like those photo's that mix and match the sexiest women by bodypart and form the 'perfect' woman that always ends up looking ghastly.

    For a fighter to be truly great he has to be not necessarily great in every area but rather all of his areas need to be harmonious with each other.

    For example how could a fighter possibly be successful if he tried to mix Juan Diaz's workrate with Winky's defense? How could Juan throw 1000 punches a fight if he was hiding behind his jab all the time?

    How can a fighter have an offensive arsenal like Pacqiuo or Valero but the tactics of B Hop?

    Likewise if you have Wladimir's jab but Floyd's boxing style what use is your jab?

    If you truly could create a fighter that blended all these elements together he'd probably be really inconsistent and beatable as a result. How could he possibly develop a style when each area contradict's the others?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bilbo
    Well if I'm allowed to get a little analytical here having the best possible attributes in each category would NOT make the best fighter in the world.

    It's just like those photo's that mix and match the sexiest women by bodypart and form the 'perfect' woman that always ends up looking ghastly.

    For a fighter to be truly great he has to be not necessarily great in every area but rather all of his areas need to be harmonious with each other.

    For example how could a fighter possibly be successful if he tried to mix Juan Diaz's workrate with Winky's defense? How could Juan throw 1000 punches a fight if he was hiding behind his jab all the time?

    How can a fighter have an offensive arsenal like Pacqiuo or Valero but the tactics of B Hop?

    Likewise if you have Wladimir's jab but Floyd's boxing style what use is your jab?

    If you truly could create a fighter that blended all these elements together he'd probably be really inconsistent and beatable as a result. How could he possibly develop a style when each area contradict's the others?
    Good point Bilbo how about Mayweather with Valero's power thats pretty much a perfect fighter

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