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03-26-2008, 06:50 AM
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Punch Power: 75 | | Re: Calzaghe: "I wont repeat Hatton mistakes! " Quote:
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Originally Posted by miles Im still surprised that Hopkins signed up for this. I can only assume its for the final paycheck. Calzaghe is gonna make him look old, lazy and slow. Hopkins was faded against Winky IMO and looked less than stellar in his final fights at MW. Calzaghe is still throwing 1000 punches at 36 and not looking too bad for it... | There is no way Hopkins took this fight for the paycheck. Absolutely NO way, he'd never take a fight he didn't believe he could win. Calzaghe also doesn't represent some mega payday, plus Hopkins could have fought far lesser fighters for a good one. I think Hopkins has to see something in Calzaghe he can exploit big time. The fact is he already has no problem with southpaws, and his right hand should serve as if nothing else an equalizer to Calzaghe's workrate. It doesn't matter if Joe throws 1000 punches against Jeff Lacy or Sakio Bika, he's not going to be that active against Hopkins, I'd bet my life on it. You can't be, Hopkins is too smart to get hit with so many flurries or intimidated by workrate alone. I do agree Hop is hard pressed to win this fight, but I think no matter what happens he is going to land some great right hands that will slow Calzaghe down. I expect Bernard to adopt the role of the puncher, moreso than he has done in almost any of his fights. Hopkin's has looked to have been slipping lately, but Calzaghe has still never fought anyone nearly as crafty, and I think he is really vulnerable to straight right's, especially counter's. | An interesting post. I agree that Calzaghes workrate will be less than what we have seen in recent fights. Hopkins is cagey and difficult to land on cleanly. Calzaghe knows he needs to make it convincing with it being a fight against an old man though and will most definitely try to impress with his workrate. True, the Hopkins lead right is always a threat. Calzaghe got sloppy a couple of times against Kessler but pretty much walked on through and kept on doing his thing. I find it hard to envision Hopkins stopping Calzaghe with his right and harder to to see him being busy enough to have any chance on the cards. You say that Calzaghe has never fought anyone like Hopkins. That is true. But Hopkins has never fought someone with the attributes Calzaghe has. Calzaghe is a darn sight better than anyone on the Hopkins resume and in recent times lets not forget that Hopkins was matched for workrate by Taylor twice and we all question Taylors stamina now. Nobody can question that Joe will push Hopkins to the limits in terms of work. And at 43 there is no way he can take it at the pace Calzaghe will set.
Hopkins has made a mistake and I truly believe this will be his last pay day. He will have no option but to retire after this. | 
03-26-2008, 07:51 AM
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Punch Power: 35 | | Re: Calzaghe: "I wont repeat Hatton mistakes! " Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft He has promised not to make the same mistakes as Ricky Hatton in his Las Vegas super-fight with Bernard Hopkins.
Calzaghe is continuing to train in familiar surroundings in Wales before jetting out to the United States a fortnight before the April 19 showdown.
Excitement is building both here and in the States over Calzaghe’s American adventure, but the Welshman insists that keeping his cool in the Nevada desert will be the key to victory.
And that is something Hatton spectacularly failed to do ahead of his ill-fated December date with Floyd Mayweather, the Mancunian clearly too hyped up at the weigh-in before thousands of his travelling fans.
“Perhaps it got to Hatton a bit but you’ve got to keep your discipline and stay cool, calm and collected,” said Calzaghe.... read more http://www.livefight.com/news.php?news_ ... =2008&m=03 | No Joe of course you wont make the same mistakes as Ricky , as Hatton fought the P4P best in his Prime , and you are fighting a 43 year old who is past his prime, thats actually why Hatton lost , not because he trained in unfamilier sorroundings !!!! PLEASE be careful Joe , that Bernard's wheel chair doesnt run over your foot during the fight.
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03-26-2008, 10:48 AM
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Punch Power: 72 | | Re: Calzaghe: "I wont repeat Hatton mistakes! " Someone needs to go tell Floyd that he's lucky Ricky didn't keep his cool or Floyd would have got messed up..
At least Calzaghe's head is in the right place... I don't think there was anything Hatton could have done in the hot Las Vegas desert to have beaten Mayweather.. Mistakes aside.. But Calzaghe is going to need everything he's got going for Hopkins...
I'm still picking him to win, but I think Hopkins is at least mentally, going to be his toughest opponent yet... | 
03-26-2008, 10:58 AM
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Punch Power: 73 | | Re: Calzaghe: "I wont repeat Hatton mistakes! " I agree with the points made about Calzaghe's opponent not being the massive favourite that Mayweather was, but Hopkins is still ranked in more p4p top 10's in the world, and the fact is Hopkins was the opponent that was demanded by very many people on this forum (many saying Calzaghe wouldn't take the fight cause he's a coward), and now Hopkins being dismissed as too old and a shadow of his former self by some?
Calzaghe wouldn't get respect from some people if he had a four on one fight with Klitshko, Peter, Haye and the Big Show and knocked all of them out.
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03-26-2008, 12:54 PM
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Punch Power: 35 | | Re: Calzaghe: "I wont repeat Hatton mistakes! " Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun I agree with the points made about Calzaghe's opponent not being the massive favourite that Mayweather was, but Hopkins is still ranked in more p4p top 10's in the world, and the fact is Hopkins was the opponent that was demanded by very many people on this forum (many saying Calzaghe wouldn't take the fight cause he's a coward), and now Hopkins being dismissed as too old and a shadow of his former self by some?
Calzaghe wouldn't get respect from some people if he had a four on one fight with Klitshko, Peter, Haye and the Big Show and knocked all of them out. | Nobody is saying Hopkins isnt a fine fighter even at 43 , i was saying he is not the fighter he once was , and if anybody thinks he is then they are deluding themselves.
As for Hatton ,he fought the P4P king and lost , Calzaghe is not fighting the P4P king so the comparisons are totally stupid. | 
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03-26-2008, 01:26 PM
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Punch Power: 92 | | Re: Calzaghe: "I wont repeat Hatton mistakes! " Quote:
Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft He has promised not to make the same mistakes as Ricky Hatton in his Las Vegas super-fight with Bernard Hopkins.
Calzaghe is continuing to train in familiar surroundings in Wales before jetting out to the United States a fortnight before the April 19 showdown.
Excitement is building both here and in the States over Calzaghe’s American adventure, but the Welshman insists that keeping his cool in the Nevada desert will be the key to victory.
And that is something Hatton spectacularly failed to do ahead of his ill-fated December date with Floyd Mayweather, the Mancunian clearly too hyped up at the weigh-in before thousands of his travelling fans.
“Perhaps it got to Hatton a bit but you’ve got to keep your discipline and stay cool, calm and collected,” said Calzaghe.... read more http://www.livefight.com/news.php?news_ ... =2008&m=03 | Well of course he won't make some mistakes there two totally different boxers. Hatton is a swarmer who uses angles on the inside and also clinches to off set opponent's Rhythm, Calzaghe is an unorthodox Southpaw who uses angles on the outside and uses quick combinations to overwhelm his opponent. Hatton didn't really make any mistakes he went out there and tried to do what he does best swarm Mayweather and try and rough him up and hand out sustained beating on the inside. But it didn't work because Mayweather was better than Hatton on the inside, and was also more physical than Hatton expected and i think that shocked Hatton personally. And also Mayweather and Hopkins are two totally different boxers style wise as well.
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03-26-2008, 01:28 PM
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Punch Power: 35 | | Re: Calzaghe: "I wont repeat Hatton mistakes! " Quote:
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Originally Posted by Pacstraightleft He has promised not to make the same mistakes as Ricky Hatton in his Las Vegas super-fight with Bernard Hopkins.
Calzaghe is continuing to train in familiar surroundings in Wales before jetting out to the United States a fortnight before the April 19 showdown.
Excitement is building both here and in the States over Calzaghe’s American adventure, but the Welshman insists that keeping his cool in the Nevada desert will be the key to victory.
And that is something Hatton spectacularly failed to do ahead of his ill-fated December date with Floyd Mayweather, the Mancunian clearly too hyped up at the weigh-in before thousands of his travelling fans.
“Perhaps it got to Hatton a bit but you’ve got to keep your discipline and stay cool, calm and collected,” said Calzaghe.... read more http://www.livefight.com/news.php?news_ ... =2008&m=03 | Well of course he won't make some mistakes there two totally different boxers. Hatton is a swarmer who uses angles on the inside and also clinches to off set opponent's Rhythm, Calzaghe is an unorthodox Southpaw who uses angles on the outside and uses quick combinations to overwhelm his opponent. Hatton didn't really make any mistakes he went out there and tried to do what he does best swarm Mayweather and try and rough him up and hand out sustained beating on the inside. But it didn't work because Mayweather was better than Hatton on the inside, and was also more physical than Hatton expected and i think that shocked Hatton personally. And also Mayweather and Hopkins are two totally different boxers style wise as well. | All true ICE , but the reason Calzaghe is saying this , is to fool people that Hopkins at this stage is as bigger treat as fighting a prime Mayweather. | 
03-26-2008, 01:29 PM
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Punch Power: 53 | | Re: Calzaghe: "I wont repeat Hatton mistakes! " Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun I agree with the points made about Calzaghe's opponent not being the massive favourite that Mayweather was, but Hopkins is still ranked in more p4p top 10's in the world, and the fact is Hopkins was the opponent that was demanded by very many people on this forum (many saying Calzaghe wouldn't take the fight cause he's a coward), and now Hopkins being dismissed as too old and a shadow of his former self by some?
Calzaghe wouldn't get respect from some people if he had a four on one fight with Klitshko, Peter, Haye and the Big Show and knocked all of them out. | We've always known this would happen though Rhun.
Unlike the Kessler fight the divs know they can't lose with this one. It doesn't matter if Calzaghe wins because they already have Hopkins excuses firmly set in place.
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03-26-2008, 01:41 PM
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Punch Power: 35 | | Re: Calzaghe: "I wont repeat Hatton mistakes! " Quote:
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Originally Posted by superheavyrhun I agree with the points made about Calzaghe's opponent not being the massive favourite that Mayweather was, but Hopkins is still ranked in more p4p top 10's in the world, and the fact is Hopkins was the opponent that was demanded by very many people on this forum (many saying Calzaghe wouldn't take the fight cause he's a coward), and now Hopkins being dismissed as too old and a shadow of his former self by some?
Calzaghe wouldn't get respect from some people if he had a four on one fight with Klitshko, Peter, Haye and the Big Show and knocked all of them out. | We've always known this would happen though Rhun.
Unlike the Kessler fight the divs know they can't lose with this one. It doesn't matter if Calzaghe wins because they already have Hopkins excuses firmly set in place. | Fenster do you consider Hopkins as big a fight as Mayweather ? in the sence that Mayweather was P4P the best ?
i think thats the point i was making. Mayweather = prime / Hopkins = 43 ?? you see the difference ?? | 
03-26-2008, 01:47 PM
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Punch Power: 53 | | Re: Calzaghe: "I wont repeat Hatton mistakes! " Quote:
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Originally Posted by Fenster Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun I agree with the points made about Calzaghe's opponent not being the massive favourite that Mayweather was, but Hopkins is still ranked in more p4p top 10's in the world, and the fact is Hopkins was the opponent that was demanded by very many people on this forum (many saying Calzaghe wouldn't take the fight cause he's a coward), and now Hopkins being dismissed as too old and a shadow of his former self by some?
Calzaghe wouldn't get respect from some people if he had a four on one fight with Klitshko, Peter, Haye and the Big Show and knocked all of them out. | We've always known this would happen though Rhun.
Unlike the Kessler fight the divs know they can't lose with this one. It doesn't matter if Calzaghe wins because they already have Hopkins excuses firmly set in place. | Fenster do you consider Hopkins as big a fight as Mayweather ? in the sence that Mayweather was P4P the best ?
i think thats the point i was making. Mayweather = prime / Hopkins = 43 ?? you see the difference ?? | I didn't even read your post mate.
No offence but when it comes to Calzaghe it's not worth it with the likes of you. You hate the guy. You'll always find fault in anything he does or says.  | 
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Punch Power: 53 | | Re: Calzaghe: "I wont repeat Hatton mistakes! " And NO I don't consider two old boys (Cal-Hop) as big a fight as two guys in their prime (Floyd-Hatt)
And this figjht aint as big. Thats obvious. | |