Those who practice Wing Chun King Fu know all about the incredible strength and power that the system can generate in the human body. I find out this and rewrite on my blog. You can see more .

actually, it's kind of garbage.... only uselful against other wing chun guys.

Wow. That seems an awfully quick dismissal...so I suppose you've personally witnessed every practitioner of Wing Chun, gauged the usefulness of each against every other practitioner of every other combat form? I find that hard to believe.

And besides - the original poster never even mentioned anything about the usefulness of the art, just the strength and power Wing Chun can generate in the human body. Why impose your definition?

I suppose you could reply by extolling the practicality of arts like Muay Thai, Krav Magda, wrestling, BJJ, etc. That's fine - those are all outstanding disciplines, with many outstanding practitioners. But I find blanket statements such as "actually, it's kind of garbage" to be insulting, and, quite frankly, exceedingly ignorant.

As a stand alone practice I'm sure Wing Chun has some great attributes, but in reference to MMA, since this is a MMA forum, I have to agree with Von....Garbage....furthermore this thread smells of a ploy at some advertisement...nothing more nothing less

Originally Posted by bcollins

Wow. That seems an awfully quick dismissal...so I suppose you've personally witnessed every practitioner of Wing Chun, gauged the usefulness of each against every other practitioner of every other combat form? I find that hard to believe.

And besides - the original poster never even mentioned anything about the usefulness of the art, just the strength and power Wing Chun can generate in the human body. Why impose your definition?

I suppose you could reply by extolling the practicality of arts like Muay Thai, Krav Magda, wrestling, BJJ, etc. That's fine - those are all outstanding disciplines, with many outstanding practitioners. But I find blanket statements such as "actually, it's kind of garbage" to be insulting, and, quite frankly, exceedingly ignorant.

blah blah balh whatever. Ever notice that the ONLY time arts such as kung fu and aikido work is in a demonstration. They're pretty much outdated and useless. I just don't understand why people see them as so beneficial because they date back thousands of years. Have we not learned anything in the meantime? Was engineering and medicine more advanced than it is now? No. The triangle aint even all that strong. When the last time you saw a triangular bridge?

Originally Posted by Von Milash

Originally Posted by bcollins

Wow. That seems an awfully quick dismissal...so I suppose you've personally witnessed every practitioner of Wing Chun, gauged the usefulness of each against every other practitioner of every other combat form? I find that hard to believe.

And besides - the original poster never even mentioned anything about the usefulness of the art, just the strength and power Wing Chun can generate in the human body. Why impose your definition?

I suppose you could reply by extolling the practicality of arts like Muay Thai, Krav Magda, wrestling, BJJ, etc. That's fine - those are all outstanding disciplines, with many outstanding practitioners. But I find blanket statements such as "actually, it's kind of garbage" to be insulting, and, quite frankly, exceedingly ignorant.

blah blah balh whatever. Ever notice that the ONLY time arts such as kung fu and aikido work is in a demonstration. They're pretty much outdated and useless. I just don't understand why people see them as so beneficial because they date back thousands of years. Have we not learned anything in the meantime? Was engineering and medicine more advanced than it is now? No. The triangle aint even all that strong. When the last time you saw a triangular bridge?

Let me guess - the only time you've seen kung fu or aikido is at a demonstration. Or maybe an instructional video? Or maybe a high school kid who claims to be a master?

How many modern arts can trace roots directly back to these useless forms?

And as for the bridge comment - first, what? And second, the triangle is an common component of basic bridge design. There are several bridges nearby with triangular braces. They're everywhere...

Bridge Basics - A Spotter's Guide to Bridge Design

I guess you pay as much attention to the foundation of bridges as you do to the foundation of modern martial arts.

Not gonna lie, I'm with Collins on the bridge thing...triangles are the strongest reasonable shape we can make. Suspension bridges can be a bit complicated and expensive. Triangles are where it's at. Everything with braces tend to be made of triangles (angles can't change, etc.)

And throwing aside the always applicable axiom of "Practitioner/Trainer > Art", WC is pretty much crap. It's definately better than nothing, but any martial art that I can never use except that one time I need it isn't very good in my book. Boxing is great because to train boxing, you box. Wing Chun, from my understanding of it, appeals to people because of its "lethal" techniques (crushing trachaea, gouging eyes, etc.) that you can never practice full strength, moreso than its general foundation and application (keyword being "appeals," not necessarily what its strongest point are). Well, That and the whole bullshit Bruce Lee story his wife has spun.

The footwork, the techniques and the discipline will help you a lot, but if I was gonna pick an art, I'd suggest something more practical.

strength of a dome exceeds that of a triangle. ask chickens.

And FEMA

"dome, when finished, is earthquake, tornado and hurricane resistant (FEMA rates them as "near-absolute protection" from F5 tornadoes and Category 5 Hurricanes)."

Hence the "strongest reasonable shape." If you can build a dome bridge, be my guest :P
And as far as domes go, geodesic domes (Buckyballs), are the way to go (EPCOT Center is one).

And the reason they are so stable against hurricanes and tornadoes is that they offer no flat surface for the wind to press against, and hence are simply more aerodynamic.

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Um...So....what do you guys make of those fancy new trunks with all the logos. Pretty nifty huh?

I downloaded a "Chinese Mind Boxing" ebook and so far I have no idea what is going on with it, although I haven't read much of it yet, just the part where it said that they don't do contact sparring. How are they going to use this stuff if they don't know whether they can take a hit ala Zelenoff?

Also can anyone do the 1-3 inch punch? or the floating punch?

Originally Posted by Salty

I downloaded a "Chinese Mind Boxing" ebook and so far I have no idea what is going on with it, although I haven't read much of it yet, just the part where it said that they don't do contact sparring. How are they going to use this stuff if they don't know whether they can take a hit ala Zelenoff?

Also can anyone do the 1-3 inch punch? or the floating punch?

I can actually do the one inch punch.

Obviously not with incredible power, but with enough force to create space.

If we are talking in a true fighting sense then Wing Chun will give you 'attributes' to use but as a standalone fighting system it is flawed (IMO). I respect wing chun and it's history but all this stuff about 'dynamic power' etc etc does not wash with me.
The punches may be fast and direct but they are weak punches. Too much tricep and not near enough body mass to cause damage. Wing chun people train to fight wing chun people. The body stays at a certain distance from eachother and they stay vertical. Watch what happens when someone closes the distance at speed and goes for a takedown.

I know someone who got into an altercation with a Wing Chun practitioner and the WC chap caught him off gaurd and straight blasted him. Although initially stunned the other managed to shake off the attack and gain the upper hand.

I myself have sparred with a red sash wing chun when i was only a 1st Kyu BJA brown belt in Judo. Not to brag but he was taken down at will and subbed with ease on the ground. Some pitter patter punches were caught on the way in but they were easy to shake off.

I am not by any way into art bashing and anyone can gain benefits from practicing any art but to claim it as an adaptable and practical standalone fighting system is a bit of an overly bold claim IMO!

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I can actually do the one inch punch.

Obviously not with incredible power, but with enough force to create space.

I haven't really practised it yet but could be useful in close i guess, I'm wondering if the effect would be noticed with gloves on though?

Also whats your technique for it?

Originally Posted by Salty

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I can actually do the one inch punch.

Obviously not with incredible power, but with enough force to create space.

I haven't really practised it yet but could be useful in close i guess, I'm wondering if the effect would be noticed with gloves on though?

Also whats your technique for it?

I don't think you would feel it with gloves on, but it would make some room, if you wanted to work on the outside.

All I do is quaarter extend my arm so it is an inche from the body of the target. I extend my arm and pivot slightly at the same time, causing a force enough to cause a step back.