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05-11-2008, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by OumaFan I just don't see it, thought he looked poor again. Looked slow and you just can't become an elite fighter with defense like that. Especially if you don't have incredible reflexes. | He didnt even get caught that although the fighter wasnt the best, his defence wasnt too bad if you ask me. Did u ever see him take anything more than a little jab or a right? Nothing major if you asked me. As ive said, his range and footwork help him with his defence. It may look easy to hit him, but his presence in the ring can really put you off looking for a big shot. Who has ever landed one that you can think of? I dont understand why people think his defence is going is such a big problem. There is more talk about is not being so good, although he has won all of his fights. Cant be too bad if you ask me.
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05-11-2008, 06:06 PM
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Punch Power: 7351 | | Re: Froch impressed last night! The other guy just didn't do anything though, hard to get hit often if the other guy's not throwing. He was just too worried about Froch's offence. I think that's partly your point but the fact is that won't work forever, when he finally fights a good fighter that will change, it always does, power's not enough by itself.
I have seen less of Froch than you have, I have no doubt of that. I've only seen like 6 or 7 of his fights and for the most part most of the guys were too defensive to land at will on him (there was one fight when he was coming up couple years ago where he got tagged at will, I can't remember his name, maybe somebody will, he was an unknown) but that will change as his opposition level goes up. Can you imagine Kessler having a hard time landing his 1-2 on Froch? I just can't. | 
05-11-2008, 06:10 PM
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05-11-2008, 06:14 PM
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Punch Power: 5144 | | Re: Froch impressed last night! But he is improving though, that is clearly evident from his fights. The power is a factor though which WILL be the difference in many of Carl fights in the future. You simply can't take those right hands and not be effected. Carl ALWAYS turns it into a fight and although he hasnt faught the best its a good start for him I think. He would have worked on a lot more, but against the pole he was just trying to end it fast, because he needed a big KO to be honest to get any attention. That is why the Inkin fight would have been very intresting last night to see where he stood amongst a higher tier fighter. He was confident Carl and he has been fucked around a lot before this, so props to him for putting on a good fight. Kessler COULD find it difficult against Froch, thats why I believe the fight should happen in the future. It would be a cracker but for the time being both men need to get a top ten name on their records again.
Maybe Jeff Lacy should turn some attention to Carl, this would be a good fight for both men I believe who need a push to get more recognition. Lacy needs a name on his record and can bang too, Froch needs a name and a top ten fighter on his record. Could be intresing I think. | 
05-11-2008, 06:15 PM
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Punch Power: 1285 | | Re: Froch impressed last night! Carl Froch is one tough guy, no doubt about that. However, based on what I saw last night, he'd be ill-advised to seek a fight with Kessler, Pavlik, or Calzaghe. Any one of those would rip him a new one.
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05-11-2008, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by boozeboxer tam seddon = carl froch  | Nope im Tam Darkes-Seddon from southport England. haha. | 
05-11-2008, 07:45 PM
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Punch Power: 6707 | | Re: Froch impressed last night! Froch is getting better and better. His hands will always stay down that is his style. He has a good defence and tucks his chin in. He has power and a good range of punches. I believe he can live with the world class fighters and he showed respect to Galzaghe which is a sign of class and let his boxing do the talking. I believe he will become a world champion and then he will beat the Kessler's and Miranda's of the world and unify the titles. He is very good. | 
05-11-2008, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon He handled the pole quite well and got him out in stlye. His speed wasnt at the best, simply because he wasnt fighting against somebody who was fast. He beat him at his game, looking for a good shot. He showed us last night that if he puts a barrage of punches he really will hurt them. Those punches were accurate and hurtful and you could see that last night. Some of the sting on those punches will cause problems to anybody at 168-175.
He cant wait for a long time for his next fight and im hoping its in the next 2-3 months so we can see him in his world title showdown. He showed respect to JC, that was good to see too. | He was fighting a Polish club fighter. If he'd sparked him in the first 30 seconds it wouldn't have been impressive, but he didn't even put him down in four rounds. That Polish guy wouldn't even be an acceptable sparring partner for a guy like Kessler, and Froch hasn't fought anybody near world class yet. When he does he'll be facing somebody with as good or better handspeed/footwork/power and with a far better defence than Froch has. Let's see how impressive he looks then. | 
05-11-2008, 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon He handled the pole quite well and got him out in stlye. His speed wasnt at the best, simply because he wasnt fighting against somebody who was fast. He beat him at his game, looking for a good shot. He showed us last night that if he puts a barrage of punches he really will hurt them. Those punches were accurate and hurtful and you could see that last night. Some of the sting on those punches will cause problems to anybody at 168-175.
He cant wait for a long time for his next fight and im hoping its in the next 2-3 months so we can see him in his world title showdown. He showed respect to JC, that was good to see too. | He was fighting a Polish club fighter. If he'd sparked him in the first 30 seconds it wouldn't have been impressive, but he didn't even put him down in four rounds. That Polish guy wouldn't even be an acceptable sparring partner for a guy like Kessler, and Froch hasn't fought anybody near world class yet. When he does he'll be facing somebody with as good or better handspeed/footwork/power and with a far better defence than Froch has. Let's see how impressive he looks then. | He was fighting a third choice fighter, it wasnt his fault. That Polish guy had a pretty firm chin if you asked me, Carl was looking for a BIG shot to make it look better, if he had just gone for him maybe he could have ended it in the first. Hence why he threw that monster right uppercut...
As ive said many times before, he is stepping up, Inkin was the step up but he pulled out twice. Whoever he fights next will be a step up because it will be for the WBC title. It's either JC or a highly ranked fighter fighting for the belt. | 
05-11-2008, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tam Seddon Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon He handled the pole quite well and got him out in stlye. His speed wasnt at the best, simply because he wasnt fighting against somebody who was fast. He beat him at his game, looking for a good shot. He showed us last night that if he puts a barrage of punches he really will hurt them. Those punches were accurate and hurtful and you could see that last night. Some of the sting on those punches will cause problems to anybody at 168-175.
He cant wait for a long time for his next fight and im hoping its in the next 2-3 months so we can see him in his world title showdown. He showed respect to JC, that was good to see too. | He was fighting a Polish club fighter. If he'd sparked him in the first 30 seconds it wouldn't have been impressive, but he didn't even put him down in four rounds. That Polish guy wouldn't even be an acceptable sparring partner for a guy like Kessler, and Froch hasn't fought anybody near world class yet. When he does he'll be facing somebody with as good or better handspeed/footwork/power and with a far better defence than Froch has. Let's see how impressive he looks then. | He was fighting a third choice fighter, it wasnt his fault. That Polish guy had a pretty firm chin if you asked me, Carl was looking for a BIG shot to make it look better, if he had just gone for him maybe he could have ended it in the first. Hence why he threw that monster right uppercut...
As ive said many times before, he is stepping up, Inkin was the step up but he pulled out twice. Whoever he fights next will be a step up because it will be for the WBC title. It's either JC or a highly ranked fighter fighting for the belt. | He bottled his chance to fight Calzaghe.
He'll get the belt given to him and will make a first defence against somebody not much better than the Polish tomato can, but eventually he'll have to face somebody world class and then we'll see how good he is.  | 
05-11-2008, 08:32 PM
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Punch Power: 11756 | | Re: Froch impressed last night! +120 You got to be fukking kidding me? Fraud looked like absolute garbage last night. That was a 1st round knock out fight if I ever saw one. I can't believe that 37 year old made it to the 4th round. Fraud tries to fight like
he's Nassem Hamed. I have no doubt, Kessler, Miranda, Bute, Green would smoke this clown. The guy just ain't that fukking good. It was obvious. He and Witter were a disgraced last night. One of the worse nights of boxing ever
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05-11-2008, 08:34 PM
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Punch Power: 22833 | | Re: Froch impressed last night! +16 Well,It was good to see another Top guy from across the pond get some air time over here in the States.For what/who Froch was matched with,regardless of card mix-ups,Froch did what you should do,take em out.But his opponent was a Hybrid Heavybag equipped with legs and Gloves....only needed Everlast printed on his forhead.Froch has a way to go but might have some tools he can refine before he even thinks of Calzaghe/Pavlik/ Kessler,Hes not ready for the top teir by any means. He did receive some good Exposure last night....no pun intended 
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05-11-2008, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise You got to be fukking kidding me? Fraud looked like absolute garbage last night. That was a 1st round knock out fight if I ever saw one. I can't believe that 37 year old made it to the 4th round. Fraud tries to fight like
he's Nassem Hamed. I have no doubt, Kessler, Miranda, Bute, Green would smoke this clown. The guy just ain't that fukking good. It was obvious. He and Witter were a disgraced last night. One of the worse nights of boxing ever | Quite VD you are never happy and a British fighter NEVER ever pleases. It wasnt his fault he had to fight him. He was suppose to fight Dennis Inkin, ranked number 2 in the world. But HE pussied out twice, so it wasnt his fault at all. Why did he look garbage may I ask? He clearly won every round and threw A LOT of hurtful shots and was clearly in command, how is that possible garbage, explain please?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? | 
05-11-2008, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing Quote:
Originally Posted by Tam Seddon Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
He was fighting a Polish club fighter. If he'd sparked him in the first 30 seconds it wouldn't have been impressive, but he didn't even put him down in four rounds. That Polish guy wouldn't even be an acceptable sparring partner for a guy like Kessler, and Froch hasn't fought anybody near world class yet. When he does he'll be facing somebody with as good or better handspeed/footwork/power and with a far better defence than Froch has. Let's see how impressive he looks then. | He was fighting a third choice fighter, it wasnt his fault. That Polish guy had a pretty firm chin if you asked me, Carl was looking for a BIG shot to make it look better, if he had just gone for him maybe he could have ended it in the first. Hence why he threw that monster right uppercut...
As ive said many times before, he is stepping up, Inkin was the step up but he pulled out twice. Whoever he fights next will be a step up because it will be for the WBC title. It's either JC or a highly ranked fighter fighting for the belt. | He bottled his chance to fight Calzaghe.
He'll get the belt given to him and will make a first defence against somebody not much better than the Polish tomato can, but eventually he'll have to face somebody world class and then we'll see how good he is.  | And Carl Froch didnt personally ring up Calzaghe and ask for a fight? He WANTS the JC fight more than anything! How much of a dumb post was that really. Have you even looked at the WBC top 15? there are a lot of fucking hard fighers in there and would test Froch. But can you not read, he was suppose to fight Dennis Inkin last night but he pulled out twice and then an Amercian pulled out. To even fight was good enough for froch to be honest. | 
05-11-2008, 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise You got to be fukking kidding me? Fraud looked like absolute garbage last night. That was a 1st round knock out fight if I ever saw one. I can't believe that 37 year old made it to the 4th round. Fraud tries to fight like
he's Nassem Hamed. I have no doubt, Kessler, Miranda, Bute, Green would smoke this clown. The guy just ain't that fukking good. It was obvious. He and Witter were a disgraced last night. One of the worse nights of boxing ever | Quite VD you are never happy and a British fighter NEVER ever pleases. It wasnt his fault he had to fight him. He was suppose to fight Dennis Inkin, ranked number 2 in the world. But HE pussied out twice, so it wasnt his fault at all. Why did he look garbage may I ask? He clearly won every round and threw A LOT of hurtful shots and was clearly in command, how is that possible garbage, explain please?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? | Do you really think that telegraphed uppercut and that stalking your opponent with your hands down crap would work with a top level fighter? Seriously do you? He got away with it last night cuz he was fighting a 37 year old D level fighter. But he would never get away with that with a top level fighter. And you seriously got to know that. | |
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