Haven't ever seen these fights but i heard Muhammad took a pasting in both fights, was Muhammad past his prime when he fought Qawi ??

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I don't think so Qawi was just a buzzsaw constantly pressuring. If you look Saad always had problems turning oppenents and fighting with angles.

Matt Franklin had power and tons of heart but Dwight Braxton was just a bad style for him , Dwight was durable ( went the distance with Spinks ) had a good work rate and was a buzzsaw of a pressure fighter. Just a bad style for Franklin.
Were great fights for sure.

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I think those fights against Qawi took a lot out of Saad Muhammad, look at his record after the second fight, he goes on to lose about half of his remaining fights, against not the greatest fighters. I think he was definately in his prime going into the first fight. Qawi just hit too hard, he was like a smaller version of Joe Frazier. Saad Muhammad was the kind to take 2 to give one and that would never work against Qawi.

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SURELY SOMEONE MUST HAVE A LICK SO ICE CAN WATCH THESE FIGHTS ?

Saad was slightly past his prime when he fought braxton. His absolute prime was around the 2nd Lopez fight in 1980. I agree, Braxton was just a bad style for him. plus he came in heavy and obviously didn't train his best. He underestimated Braxton. The second fight was sad. Saad took a tremendous pounding, and was shot from that time onward. It's too bad Saad didn't avoid Braxton. Had he made one more defense, a unification fight with Michael Spinks was in the works. I believe Spinks was a better style for Saad and it would have been a good fight.

Um Quawi is an absolute beast,IMO he beat Holyfield in their first fight. I don't have problem seeing him beat any cruiserweight or lightheavyweight unless they are really good counter punchers who could stay away from him. He reminded me of a more powerful Glen Johnson.

Yeah, Qawi was mean and intimidating. I'm pretty sure he learned his trade and started his pro career in prison, at Rahway, they had a good boxing program there. Not sure if they still do.