Thread: ? D`La Hoya vs Cotto ?...........

In view the surprising of the " Retirment " of WBC Champion WW Div... Mayweather Jr. , the Oscar Trainer " Mayweather Sr. commented that the next rival for ODLH should be the winner between Cotto vs Margaro fights , Oscar and the winner between them would be a real great fight , that was the opinion of Mayweather Sr. in an interview in Boxing Coverage updated 24/7 at MaxBoxing.com .....................

Now that Ricky Hatton refused an offer with Oscar to fight in Sept.20 , now he using again the name of Cotto for publicity , he in the end of fight with Forbes , he said that he dont want fight with Cotto because his wife asked him that not fight with any others Puertorican boxers , i think that he now dont give a mind how he would finish his career this year....

I think if De la Hoya does ask Cotto for a fight it just proves the theory that he's only in boxing for the money.

I know Oscar was a good fighter, but let it go down in his hall of fmae record, Oscar was and is a greedy money hungry bully.

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I think if De la Hoya does ask Cotto for a fight it just proves the theory that he's only in boxing for the money.

I know Oscar was a good fighter, but let it go down in his hall of fmae record, Oscar was and is a greedy money hungry bully.

Doesn't it prove the opposite ? That he still wants to fight the best and wants a shot at great(er)ness ?

Don't really understand why that woudl make him money hungry.. if he wants money he can fight a no name and pull in millions anyway

Originally Posted by Poom

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I think if De la Hoya does ask Cotto for a fight it just proves the theory that he's only in boxing for the money.

I know Oscar was a good fighter, but let it go down in his hall of fmae record, Oscar was and is a greedy money hungry bully.

Doesn't it prove the opposite ? That he still wants to fight the best and wants a shot at great(er)ness ?

Don't really understand why that woudl make him money hungry.. if he wants money he can fight a no name and pull in millions anyway

Oscar is a Light Middlewight.
JHe has to get down to that weight.

He hasn't fought a light middleweight or a man equal his size since Hopkins. Each fight since he's made the opponent come up to facilitate himself.

Originally Posted by Poom

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I think if De la Hoya does ask Cotto for a fight it just proves the theory that he's only in boxing for the money.

I know Oscar was a good fighter, but let it go down in his hall of fmae record, Oscar was and is a greedy money hungry bully.

Doesn't it prove the opposite ? That he still wants to fight the best and wants a shot at great(er)ness ?

Don't really understand why that woudl make him money hungry.. if he wants money he can fight a no name and pull in millions anyway

I agree Poom , but not like he would like to.................

If ODH fights Cotto at 147 I'll have much respect for him, such a fight would legitimise the winner's right to fight Floyd, who may be back if the price is right and the chorus loud enough. Beating ODH will give Cotto the mainstream exposure that Floyd simply could not ignore, I'm thinking this is what Floyd has in mind all along.

Poom,
Totally agree.

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I think if De la Hoya does ask Cotto for a fight it just proves the theory that he's only in boxing for the money.

I know Oscar was a good fighter, but let it go down in his hall of fmae record, Oscar was and is a greedy money hungry bully.

Wouldn't it show that ODLH isn't afraid of big names? I mean, everybody keeps saying ODLH is no good, he's afraid, he doesn't deserve a spot on the hall of fame, etc. And now that he might fight Cotto people start to moan and groan for one reason or the other. If he fights for a big purse, that's terrible. If he fights against a big name, that's terrible too. I just don't understand.

Originally Posted by Chino

Poom,
Totally agree.

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I think if De la Hoya does ask Cotto for a fight it just proves the theory that he's only in boxing for the money.

I know Oscar was a good fighter, but let it go down in his hall of fmae record, Oscar was and is a greedy money hungry bully.

Wouldn't it show that ODLH isn't afraid of big names? I mean, everybody keeps saying ODLH is no good, he's afraid, he doesn't deserve a spot on the hall of fame, etc. And now that he might fight Cotto people start to moan and groan for one reason or the other. If he fights for a big purse, that's terrible. If he fights against a big name, that's terrible too. I just don't understand.

i think his point is that hed want cotto to move up and be the smaller man than fighting someone his own size,

im a big fan of de la hoya like yourself but think he should fight winky

That stuff about Oscar not wanting to fight other Puerto Rican fighters because of his wife is such utter nonsense, and the type of thing that pisses me off about Oscar. Before, it was because of his wife. Over the last few months, we have heard sprinklings from Oscar about possibly fighting Cotto after Floyd. What happened to not fighting Cotto, a Puerto Rican, because of his wife? Pure dodge ball bull.

De La Hoya's only two options imo are Cotto or a rematch with Sugar Shane. De La Hoya-Cotto would be a barn stormer but Cotto has to get past Tony first.

Originally Posted by Chino

Poom,
Totally agree.

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I think if De la Hoya does ask Cotto for a fight it just proves the theory that he's only in boxing for the money.

I know Oscar was a good fighter, but let it go down in his hall of fmae record, Oscar was and is a greedy money hungry bully.

Wouldn't it show that ODLH isn't afraid of big names? I mean, everybody keeps saying ODLH is no good, he's afraid, he doesn't deserve a spot on the hall of fame, etc. And now that he might fight Cotto people start to moan and groan for one reason or the other. If he fights for a big purse, that's terrible. If he fights against a big name, that's terrible too. I just don't understand.

To fight the big names? Can you really sit there and say honestly that he did not make the Forbes fight happen just to get a win? What is the last quality win he has had over a top ranked opponent in his own weight class? Other then a gift over Felix Sturm it has been 6 years! That was his win over Fernando Vargas.

Lets say he did make it down to 147 and fought Cotto or Margarito and lost. What would be next? Jorge Arce? Nonito Doniare? How about Ivan Calderon? I mean hey they are top names right?

i think his point is that hed want cotto to move up and be the smaller man than fighting someone his own size,

I get you man. Not so long ago people wanted ODLH to face Cotto and people were savoring the fight just to imagine ODLH being completely utterly punished. If people hate ODLH so much around here then I would expect people to totally support that fight.
Rican,
I know, huh? First he says he won't fight a Puerto Rican and then it all sounds as if he will. But, what fighter out there has not changed their mind about something. We have boxers retiring and coming back, saying they won't fight someone and then change their mind, and so on. It's nothing new really.

To fight the big names? Can you really sit there and say honestly that he did not make the Forbes fight happen just to get a win?

How about Cotto vs Gomez? Everybody gets those fights here and there. Still, ODLH has one of the best resumes out there.

Originally Posted by Chino

i think his point is that hed want cotto to move up and be the smaller man than fighting someone his own size,

I get you man. Not so long ago people wanted ODLH to face Cotto and people were savoring the fight just to imagine ODLH being completely utterly punished. If people hate ODLH so much around here then I would expect people to totally support that fight.
Rican,
I know, huh? First he says he won't fight a Puerto Rican and then it all sounds as if he will. But, what fighter out there has not changed their mind about something. We have boxers retiring and coming back, saying they won't fight someone and then change their mind, and so on. It's nothing new really.

To fight the big names? Can you really sit there and say honestly that he did not make the Forbes fight happen just to get a win?

How about Cotto vs Gomez? Everybody gets those fights here and there. Still, ODLH has one of the best resumes out there.

Alfonso Gomez was a man in the same weight division ranked in the top ten by the sanctioning body in which Miguel holds a world title in. Making it a legit match regardless of Gomez skills.

What title did Oscar hold? What was the point of having Forbes a much smaller man who could not even make 154 the division Oscar fights in. That is what the catch weight was for. Not to mention natural physical size.

It is like being the toughest kid in the 12th grade because you beat up all the 7th grade kids over at the middle school.

The whole everyone deserves one is crap. If DLH fought a natural 154lb fighter ranked 200th and had lost his last 10 by KO I would have given him more respect.

The title of that fight card should have been

"Because I need a win!" To top it off he looked like crap and was marked up by one of the softest hitting guys in the sport. In all reality in was nothing but an embarrassment all around for him.

Originally Posted by Chino

Poom,
Totally agree.

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I think if De la Hoya does ask Cotto for a fight it just proves the theory that he's only in boxing for the money.

I know Oscar was a good fighter, but let it go down in his hall of fmae record, Oscar was and is a greedy money hungry bully.

Wouldn't it show that ODLH isn't afraid of big names? I mean, everybody keeps saying ODLH is no good, he's afraid, he doesn't deserve a spot on the hall of fame, etc. And now that he might fight Cotto people start to moan and groan for one reason or the other. If he fights for a big purse, that's terrible. If he fights against a big name, that's terrible too. I just don't understand.

Cotto's a big name, not a big man.

Why won't Oscar fight another man his own size. A man that walks around as an athletic Middle/Super Middle

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

I think if De la Hoya does ask Cotto for a fight it just proves the theory that he's only in boxing for the money.

I know Oscar was a good fighter, but let it go down in his hall of fmae record, Oscar was and is a greedy money hungry bully.

Well first off, EVERY fighter is in it for the money, at least primarily.. You seem to caught up in the idea that to box is for the glory, and not to make a living. It's very pretentious imo. But secondly, if Oscar was in it ONLY for the money, he wouldn't fight at all. That should be painfully obvious, he is nearing billionaire status and has no financial worries in sight, he can rely on his promotional company doing well for a long time. Any payday he makes is insignifigant to his total earnings at this point. Having said that, he, like any world class boxer, is still looking for the highest possible earnings in a fight. If he want's Cotto, then good for him, it takes two to make a fight and it shows he is still hungry if you ask me.