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Tellin’ It Like It Is: Floyd’s Phony Retirement

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Tellin’ It Like It Is: Floyd’s Phony Retirement
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Sunday, June 22nd, 2008 at 7:42 pm


Scoop Malinowski and Philip H. Anselmo deliberate and discuss on the controversial issue of Floyd Mayweather’s baloney retirement from the sport of boxing, in this debut feature we call “Tellin’ It Like It Is”, in honor of the late, great Howard Cosell, “The Mouth That Roared”…

Scoop: It’s obvious to just about everyone in boxing that Mayweather retired so as to duck the Cotto-Margarito winner which public pressure would have demanded he meet the winner since his schedule is wide open now that Oscar II fizzled out. Floyd’s legacy is that of a great talent and multiple titleholder who ducked and dodged too many tough challenges. Compared to all the great honorable champions who fearlessly and proudly faced the best without excuse or alibi, Floyd shrivels in comparison. Compared to that standard, Floyd is a counterfeit posing as a great champion. Floyd did not uphold the integrity of the sport of boxing - that the best are obligated to fight the best - and therefore it’s a good thing he has gone into hiding to avoid Cotto or Margarito. Floyd is welcome back if he wants to do the right thing and fight the best to prove he is P4P, but if he wants to comeback and handpick again, it will further shame his legacy and embarrass the reputation of the sport of pro boxing of being the sport where the best compete against the best.

Phil Anselmo: Floyd Mayweather: one of boxing’s PFP greats? What a laugh.
If you examine his record, every fight was COMPLETELY hand-picked from
the start of his forgettable career. Beating a ripe for the taking Genaro Hernandez, who
had already hinted at retirement BEFORE they fought, stopping a distracted man facing
jail time in Diego Corrales, LOSING to Jose Luis Castillo in their first fight, but being given
a gift decision a la James Toney-Dave Tiberi, winning the rematch with Castillo by “boxing”
safety first, beating a chin dented, underachiever in Zab Judah after LOSING the the first four rounds, stopping a SHOT Arturo Gatti, beating an Oscar De La Hoya who was 10 YEARS PAST
HIS PRIME by split decision, and his grand finale being a KO over Rickey Hatton, the
JR. WELTER CHAMP. Isn’t the welterweight champ supposed to beat the junior welterweight champ?
The money dictated Floyd’s choices, NEVER his heart.

Only true “world” champions clean out their respectful divisions.

Not only did Floyd duck EVERYONE rated in the top 10, he gave no respect to the fans nor the fighters by protecting his undefeated record by milking the boxing system, systematically.

Cotto, Margarito, & Williams don’t need Floyd anymore, not that Floyd would ever fight
any of them, but between the those three fighters, it’ll be a pleasure to see them erase the name
Floyd Mayweather Jr. from our memory banks forever. He’s a pussy, best put on a shelf
to gather dust. Let him lay arm & arm with his lame accomplishments in bed at night-alone, (if he can really sleep, knowing in his own mind what a true hoax his career has been) while the rest of the world passes him by, just like The Boxing Hall of Fame in Canastota should.

Scoop: I agree, I would not vote for him to be inducted to the Hall of Fame. Too many lies, too many avoided fights the paying customers wanted to see, disqualify him from Canastota in my personal opinion. Now, by all evidence, Floyd in a way is a beaten man. He has been defeated by the Cotto mystique. Psyched out, intimidated by the confidence, the passion, the Cotto hunger and drive to be the BEST. You stand those two together at a press conference and every one in the room including Stevie Wonder would know who the real champion is and who the manufactured, immature, empty talking phony fraud is. This is why Phloyd has never even tried to negotiatie with Cotto to fight this past April. He never even tried to ask for 90-10 cut of the total purse. And Floyd never tried to demand 90% of the PPV pie considering what a big draw he claims he is.

Phil you have studied the Sweet Science and all the great fighters over the last 25 years. Do you think it’s possible Phloyd may man up and save his name and rep? Do you think the inner shame he is feeling now as a coward who has fleed pro boxing to duck and dodge Cotto or Margarito can evolve and mature into pride and honor? I believe Phloyd is a very sensitive and somewhat insecure individual underneath all the cocksure bravado. And eventually his reputation as a handpicking counterfeit will eat him alive. and he will eventually say, All the $ in the world ain’t worth living in shame as a chicken who ducked and dodged Cotto/Margarito. “I need the love Hatton gets. I need to be embraced like Cotto is by Puerto Rico, like Pacman is by Filipinos.” I gotta get back in there and do what I do best, I gotta be Floyd, and win or lose or get savagely knocked out, my destiny is to face my ultimate challenge Miguel Cotto or Antonio Margarito.

Phil do you believe the bully punk in Floyd is capable of making this honorable realization and manning up to face his bogeyman? Or will Phloyd ride this out and wait until the coast is clear, and then comeback in 09 and, say, pay a bonus to Paul Williams through Al Haymon to move up to 154 and then handpick the Hatton-Pacquiao winner or some other phony exhibition?

Philip H. Anselmo: Being young, rich, & retired won’t bode well at all with fake Floyd. Once he realizes WCW wrestling, golf, flashing wads of cash around the same old hangers-on & token friends, or driving a different brand new car to the bank in Grand Rapids MI everyday gets old FAST, he’ll NEED to feel the excitement that only fighting for world championships could possibly bring.

A guy like himself needs the spotlight MORE than a plant needs sunlight. He craves it.

He’ll comeback, for sure. Will he fight Cotto, Margarito, or Williams?

That depends on HIS psychology. And the state of the game.

We know his “business/$first” approach to the game. I know for a fact that there’s NO WAY
he relishes fighting the aforementioned three fighters in what’s sure to be three completely different, fiercely contested chapters in his stellar career. By telling the public that Cotto isn’t a big enough
name at this point in the game is stupid. Besides, Floyd is “a major pay-per-view attraction on
his own, regardless of who he fights.” More BS. It takes two to tangle, and to make it attractive
for the public to demand it should be against the best guy, a la Cotto, etc.

Or, maybe Floyd is slyly enjoying duping boxing and its fans in general.

He always has, so why not now? Or more importantly why?

He had to laugh inside a little (or cry) when he saw the shape De La Hoya had gotten himself into when he fought Steve Forbes, only to drop the guillotine blade on the fight with Oscar by “retiring.”
When Margarito & Cotto clash, how much will it take out of both fighters?

Ever think of that? I bet Floyd has. To come back and beat the husk of either fighter would be right up Floyd’s alley. If and when Paul Williams continues to improve, Floyd will have absolutely NO ****ing problem AVOIDING him. And if Williams gets to the husks of Cotto or Margarito before Floyd you can forget Floyd fighting him-EVER!!! But…

YES! He’ll still comeback. Not fighting Williams, but against a 55-year-old De La Hoya, or even (especially) Ricky Hatton, even if he’s is coming off of a three-fight losing streak at junior welter, Floyd would DEFINITELY take that fight, and if he won, he’d act like he’d beaten insurmountable odds stacked against him, and once again, call himself the greatest fighter that ever lived.

Remember two things Floyd, the fact that you’re considered the #1 PFP fighter today rings hollow. Especially when a mere decade and a half earlier, Roy Jones Jr. was considered the #1 PFP fighter in the world, because he DESERVED IT. Roy was faster than you, punched harder, was 100 times more exciting & took calculated RISKS! All you’ve done is calculate! When have you REALLY risked ANYTHING? In the Carlos Baldomir fight? Don’t make me and those others who’ve seen straight through your facade simultaneously puke.

And the second thing, deep down inside, you, your dad & your uncle Roger talk so much about
being “the best” (you ***holes are so insecure of yourselves), they must know what I’ve suspected for a long time: you Floyd, have “The Mayweather chin” that I’ve been waiting to see exposed for a long time. But you’ve been matched so carefully, there’s not been much of a chance of that happening. Now you’re taking the easiest way out.

But one day, and it will come, when you make your comeback, a punch will hit you square on the chin, and you’ll collapse like your uncle Roger did against Rafael Pineda, with his head resting across the bottom rope, eyes crossed, and his shit-talking lips flapping in the breeze, dreaming the non-dreaming of the KO’d.

I know you’ve got it in you Floyd - just step up and fight a legit guy so we can have the opportunity to see your eyes crossed, and big ‘ol flapping lips sputtering NOTHING!!! For a change as you get counted out, to the delight of we who call you fraudulent.”

Thank you for reading this installment of “Tellin’ It Like It Is.”

Isn't Phil Anselmo the singer from Pantera?

Floyd is like fucking 2pac, the man is gone ( real or fake) and he is still in the boxing news amist all the great things going on in boxing right now, some of these media guys need to give it a rest. Deep down i think they are in love with this guy there has to be other things to talk about than floyd......geeeeeezusssss! Nothing said will take away the belts he's won, put a loss on his record etc....

Boxing needs match makers like MMA, so people cant duck anyone.

I think it's some of the points there are incredibly patronising.

I mean, he''s not duping or disrespecting anyone. You buy your tickets/PPV as a matter of free will do you not?

He's not changed one iota stylistically either. I can't knock the guy for saying 'you're gonna see one helluva fight' only to see him box off the back foot and revert to type - and do what's neccesary to get the 'W'. He has to sell the fight. That's his part in the promotion...he's bringing no fans, he understands his role, he's the pantomine villian.

Not only that, but above all else, he's been completely honest about his approach from the off 'if it makes money, it makes sense'.

That idiot who said Castillo vs Mayweather 1 was comparable to Toney vs Tiberi has got to be kidding me ?? Tiberi vs Toney was one of the worst robberies in boxing history with Tiberi at least winning by 5 rounds, Castillo vs Mayweather 1 was close in which i had Castillo just nicking it by 1 round and it was no wider than 2 points either way, but to compare Castillo and Mayweather 1 to Toney vs Tiberi is a horrendous comparison and that clearly states he is a hater, Genaro Hernandez had never been beaten at Super Featherweight when Mayweather fought him, and he had wins against fighters like Azumah Nelson, and lets remember Mayweather only had 17 pro fights at the time and had only just turned 21. Anyone who tries and takes that victory away from Mayweather is a clueless moron who knows nothing about the sport. Is that Mayweather's fault that Corrales had personal troubles outside the ring ?? all i know is that at the time Corrales was a top 10 P4P fighter and most boxing experts had it 50-50 fight. And for Mayweather to destroy a top 10 P4P fighter is very impressive no matter what was going on in Corrales's life at the time, that was an amazing performance from Mayweather Jr end of.

I love these people who try and take away Mayweather's victory over ODLH when all these people before were saying Mayweather had to fight ODLH and that it was a big fight, some of ODLH's best performances were at Jr Middleweight his unimpressive fights against Sturm, Hopkins, were at Middleweight. Mayweather had never fought at Jr Middleweight and met all of ODLH's demands and ODLH even weighed almost 1 stone heavier than Mayweather, and for Mayweather to out box ODLH at Jr Middleweight and become a 5 weight champion is impressive and for anyone to take away that victory is a hater and is contradicting themselves badly. ODLH was 10 years past his prime who the hell is this joker he has to be kidding right ?? Hatton was top 10 P4P fighter and unless my memory serves me right didn't Mayweather start at a much lower weight class than Hatton ?? so isn't that contradicting right there to bring up weight issue's for Hatton ?? As for Cotto vs Margarito all these haters need to wait and see what Mayweather actually choose's to do after the winner of Cotto vs Margarito before they start bad mouthing Mayweather.

I'm a confessed Floyd hater, but I still think some of those points go too far. Floyd still deserves respect for his skills and his achievements, even though I agree that his legacy suffers from some of the "business-first" matchmaking that defined his career. It's a shame in a way that someone who has that much talent chose not to showcase it by fighting all the best of his generation. I think he probably could have been one of the greatest of all time, instead of just a great.

However, I doubt very seriously we've seen the last of Floyd in the ring. He could still salvage some respect, if he quit mouthing and posturing and made the meaningful fights.

Originally Posted by killersheep

Isn't Phil Anselmo the singer from Pantera?

yep.

Telling it like it isn't. Floyd Mayweather greatest p4p fighter of all time, yeah baby you can't touch him. He can retire he doesn't have to prove anything to anyone. First ballot HOF'r oh yeah thats sounds good to me.

Good read Danny , that means the whole world knows what exactly happening , is something that much people dont like to read or hear it , but if Floyd retired leaving incognites , that is the price , i believe that Floyd has his rights to decides the retirment , but he suppoused to retired clean avoiding any bad comments......................

That what i guess.........

Is that article meant to be humorous?

Any boxing fan - apart from those with a sick delusional hatred - can recognise it would take a truly OUTSTANDING fighter to have beaten all those names listed (even if the excuses were valid, which is ridiculous).

No one believes Floyd has genuinely retired.

What an absolute joke of an article that was. What is wrong with Phil Anselmo? The guy needs a pill.

I'm with some of yas here and can't believe I'm defending Floyd but this is pure sensationalist journalism and little more.

Anyone ever seen PBF on MTV cribs? lol....He was so over the top ridiculous about loving and having money it was hahalarious. It was as if he was making fun of himself. I almost started to like him. Almost.

They sound like babies who have had their candy taken away from them. Can't write about Floyd every week now so they have to get it out in the most unprofessional manner possible. This is everything that's bad about the internet age of media, shit like this belongs with that garbage article about De La Hoya posted a few ago. I actually just went back and read the whole thing, don't know why it is garbage.

I think that he while not come back but i might be wrong on that.