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    I know this is gonna break down into a I heart Hatton/I think he's a fag debate but what can you do

    I was just wondering about his chin, at 147 he definitely didn't seem to take punches well. I mean Collazo's no huge puncher whatsoever and he had Hatton hurt pretty bad and when was the last time Floyd Mayweather stopped anybody with one punch?

    At 140 I guess he hasn't been hurt that often but I don't think of Lazcano as a huge puncher either and he definitely got Hatton's attention a few times. If I was a big Hatton fan I'd definitely be a bit worried about his chin even if he fought guys like Torres or Holt. I guess it doesn't matter in a Paulie fight.

    So how would you rate his chin? Good, average, shaky? Some of you people probably don't even have to post as I'm pretty sure I know what you'll say but either way

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I know this is gonna break down into a I heart Hatton/I think he's a fag debate but what can you do

    I was just wondering about his chin, at 147 he definitely didn't seem to take punches well. I mean Collazo's no huge puncher whatsoever and he had Hatton hurt pretty bad and when was the last time Floyd Mayweather stopped anybody with one punch?

    At 140 I guess he hasn't been hurt that often but I don't think of Lazcano as a huge puncher either and he definitely got Hatton's attention a few times. If I was a big Hatton fan I'd definitely be a bit worried about his chin even if he fought guys like Torres or Holt. I guess it doesn't matter in a Paulie fight.

    So how would you rate his chin? Good, average, shaky? Some of you people probably don't even have to post as I'm pretty sure I know what you'll say but either way

    Id say his punch resitance is leaving him. Even in his youth he never had the greatest of whiskers cuz Magee had him down and hurt but I do think his recovery skills were better back then

    If you compare his punch resistance in the Tszyu fight where he seemed to walk through walls to his punch resistance in his last 2 fights then its fair to say he isnt what he was .

    I wouldnt describe Hatton has chinny though cuz he only has 1 defeat and been down 3 times in his long career at the top . But as you say Floyd doesnt usually spark guys with 1 shot .

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    I think it's pretty good.

    It was built up as iron-like after the Kostya fight but that's never been the case.

    He was in trouble earlier on in his career against Quiros, Magee, Phillips and even Ben Tackie. Then later on against Collazo, Mayweather (with the KO) and Lazcano.

    That's why i got annoyed when people were urging him to retire after getting rocked by Lazcano. Those people seem to forget that earlier on his career he was equally as hurt by much lesser fighters.

    I think all in all it's pretty solid. Most fighters get hurt at some stage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GAME View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I know this is gonna break down into a I heart Hatton/I think he's a fag debate but what can you do

    I was just wondering about his chin, at 147 he definitely didn't seem to take punches well. I mean Collazo's no huge puncher whatsoever and he had Hatton hurt pretty bad and when was the last time Floyd Mayweather stopped anybody with one punch?

    At 140 I guess he hasn't been hurt that often but I don't think of Lazcano as a huge puncher either and he definitely got Hatton's attention a few times. If I was a big Hatton fan I'd definitely be a bit worried about his chin even if he fought guys like Torres or Holt. I guess it doesn't matter in a Paulie fight.

    So how would you rate his chin? Good, average, shaky? Some of you people probably don't even have to post as I'm pretty sure I know what you'll say but either way

    Id say his punch resitance is leaving him. Even in his youth he never had the greatest of whiskers cuz Magee had him down and hurt but I do think his recovery skills were better back then

    If you compare his punch resistance in the Tszyu fight where he seemed to walk through walls to his punch resistance in his last 2 fights then its fair to say he isnt what he was .

    I wouldnt describe Hatton has chinny though cuz he only has 1 defeat and been down 3 times in his long career at the top . But as you say Floyd doesnt usually spark guys with 1 shot .
    I agree. Hatton has a good chin IMO, but perhaps it's the recovery that's been affected since his fitness has very gradually left him.

    Certainly at 140 and healthy he has one of the better chins out there, especially considering he has a style which ships a lot of punches since the tzyu fight.

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    good not great imho.

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    I think his punch resistance and recovery time have gone somewhat due to his bad life style, Look at what he eats and look how many times he gets pissed that will catch up to any boxer eventually. And look how fat he gets inbetween fights he keeps balloning up in weight and having to lose 30 pounds and sometimes more for majority of his fights and that will take a toll on your body. But thats just my opinion anyway.
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    Hatton could be the first to be knock out twice by both p4p king in a few years between

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    The thread title makes no sense. Hatton's chin? What chin?

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    i don't think hatton has a bad chin,

    you look at most of the times he has been hurt or when mayweather put him out he was running almost on empty, collazo fight, he was knackered and thats why he was getting hurt.

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    Ive never seen Hatton as a granite chinned fighter (he's admitted after fights being hurt) and never china chinned.

    It's pretty clear he doesn't handle punches so well anymore.. there's plenty of reasons for that though, mainly that he gets hit MORE than he used too

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    I don't know about his chin. I certainly don't remember him being hurt against Tackie but I was fairly intoxicated the night of that fight I could have let it slip my memory.

    Anyways, I think it's more of a deal where he has trouble with shots he doesn't see. Against Tszyu he had to walk through absolute hell to get to the inside. Just rewatched the fight and was amazed at how he could walk through those shots like that I can't imagine what he must have felt like when the adrenaline wore off and he was at his house laying in bed. Without that crowd there is no way in hell he wins that belt imo. That's why I love that picture so much of him and Tszyu two weeks later.

    I think Hatton's big problem is he leaves his feet to much and just doesn't see punches. Mayweather he didn't see the punch, because it wasn't a big shot if he had landed it straight away but Hatton wasn't expecting it. Same deal with Luzcano he got hurt with another one of those check hooks and a punch underneath when Hatton was bent over. Neither he saw.

    Collazo wasn't a big puncher but a southpaw, Hatton was tired and was just about to throw a left to the body when he got tagged with a left cross.

    Obviously the first thing that came to mind was Pacquiao and how Hatton would handle his power. Unless of course you were wondering about Malignaggi's power Don't think it would be all that much of an issue. Obviously he's been in the ring with bigger punchers then Pacquiao in Tszyu and Urango who had him hurt in the 6th I think but Urango hits hard period. Pacquiao's power doesn't come from his hooks at all, he threw some versus Diaz from all sorts of angles but didn't really hurt him with any and a lot of them landed open handed like slaps. The problem would be seeing the left hands but I would really be surprised if he got KO'd.

    Overall Hatton being on the slide has been greatly exaggerated. He's certainly not the best Hatton there ever was but he's not shot nor is he a shell or even half the fighter he once was. He did seem a bit desperate in the Luzcano bout and his legs weren't all there but when your legs go so does your footspeed and Hatton still looked to me like he had plenty of footspeed. Those two things go hand and hand. Lost a step for sure but that's to be expected, I think he's held up fairly well considering how active he has always been and how long he has been around and pretty much on top of his game off and on.

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    Well I just see it as yrs. passing by that's all it is.

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    after the kosta fight i would say he had a iron chin, his chin today is below average.

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    I don't know about his chin. I certainly don't remember him being hurt against Tackie but I was fairly intoxicated the night of that fight I could have let it slip my memory.

    Anyways, I think it's more of a deal where he has trouble with shots he doesn't see. Against Tszyu he had to walk through absolute hell to get to the inside. Just rewatched the fight and was amazed at how he could walk through those shots like that I can't imagine what he must have felt like when the adrenaline wore off and he was at his house laying in bed. Without that crowd there is no way in hell he wins that belt imo. That's why I love that picture so much of him and Tszyu two weeks later.

    I think Hatton's big problem is he leaves his feet to much and just doesn't see punches. Mayweather he didn't see the punch, because it wasn't a big shot if he had landed it straight away but Hatton wasn't expecting it. Same deal with Luzcano he got hurt with another one of those check hooks and a punch underneath when Hatton was bent over. Neither he saw.

    Collazo wasn't a big puncher but a southpaw, Hatton was tired and was just about to throw a left to the body when he got tagged with a left cross.

    Obviously the first thing that came to mind was Pacquiao and how Hatton would handle his power. Unless of course you were wondering about Malignaggi's power Don't think it would be all that much of an issue. Obviously he's been in the ring with bigger punchers then Pacquiao in Tszyu and Urango who had him hurt in the 6th I think but Urango hits hard period. Pacquiao's power doesn't come from his hooks at all, he threw some versus Diaz from all sorts of angles but didn't really hurt him with any and a lot of them landed open handed like slaps. The problem would be seeing the left hands but I would really be surprised if he got KO'd.

    Overall Hatton being on the slide has been greatly exaggerated. He's certainly not the best Hatton there ever was but he's not shot nor is he a shell or even half the fighter he once was. He did seem a bit desperate in the Luzcano bout and his legs weren't all there but when your legs go so does your footspeed and Hatton still looked to me like he had plenty of footspeed. Those two things go hand and hand. Lost a step for sure but that's to be expected, I think he's held up fairly well considering how active he has always been and how long he has been around and pretty much on top of his game off and on.

    Ironically the hardest puncher he has actually ever been in with was urango who apart from that one round seemed to give hatton hardly any problems at all.

    If you fight with that kind of style youve got to expect that the better fighters out there are going to tag you every so often.

    He beat tszyu because he was prepared to walk through whatever kostya would throw but almost lost to collazo because he genuinely expected that he wasnt gonna be in a war that it eventually came down to.

    Any decent move and punch type boxer is gonna catch hatton because of the way he fights. Thats still not to say though that his chin is any weaker than it ever has been.

    just the level of competition has gone up
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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    I know this is gonna break down into a I heart Hatton/I think he's a fag debate but what can you do

    I was just wondering about his chin, at 147 he definitely didn't seem to take punches well. I mean Collazo's no huge puncher whatsoever and he had Hatton hurt pretty bad and when was the last time Floyd Mayweather stopped anybody with one punch?

    At 140 I guess he hasn't been hurt that often but I don't think of Lazcano as a huge puncher either and he definitely got Hatton's attention a few times. If I was a big Hatton fan I'd definitely be a bit worried about his chin even if he fought guys like Torres or Holt. I guess it doesn't matter in a Paulie fight.

    So how would you rate his chin? Good, average, shaky? Some of you people probably don't even have to post as I'm pretty sure I know what you'll say but either way
    Well His Chin doesn't quite match up with his Testicular Fortitude.
    Hes more brave than tough.

    He gets wild, he gets hurt.
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