Thread: Did the Calzaghe fight ruin Jeff Lacy?

Well its troublesome when a guy gets hit fairly regularly with a right uppercut inside when that's all Mendoza was doing on the inside.

Power is a funny thing though, Mendoza doesn't look like he throws anything that hard, kind of sloppy sluggish looking punches but they mess people up.

Originally Posted by OumaFan

Well its troublesome when a guy gets hit fairly regularly with a right uppercut inside when that's all Mendoza was doing on the inside.

Power is a funny thing though, Mendoza doesn't look like he throws anything that hard, kind of sloppy sluggish looking punches but they mess people up.

I think its his power but also people dont see his punches comign from those angles he throws them.

The punch that hurts the most is the one you never see.

its amazing Lacy threw those winging punches when Mendoza bent down its like he forgot about uppercuts.

But Lacy when he used his jab was a much better fighter then when he was just winging shots.

Mendoza reminded me of Julio Gonzalez.

Originally Posted by Bilbo

Originally Posted by hitmandonny

Absolutley, when that fight finished so did Lacy.
He lost ever bit of mental strength and fortitude that he had built.

He was actually a gutsy fighter, he kept coming after Calzaghe, he never stopped trying, but the loss was a complete and uter domination.

I disagree completely about Lacy losing all his mental strenght and fortidude.


Apart from his physical strength pretty much all Lacy has is his heart and will to win.

I have to say, I'm a big Jeff Lacy fan, in my mind no boxer gives his all more than Jeff Lacy.

To get beat for every minute of every round like he did against Joe Calzaghe but to keep fighting to the very end, to fight with a torn rotator cuff from the second round against Tyspko and pull out a win and to come back from being rocked several times against Mendoza to dig deep and make sure he won the final round and therefore the fight shows the heart and mental strength of a true champion imo.

Lacy is limited technically, and his power was overratted but for heart, determination, dedication to the sport and sheer iron will Lacy is possibly America's best fighter imo.

Because a fighter has the desire to mean doesn't mean he has confidence and fortitude.

When in the ring, a fighter knows what he's meant to do. But it takes a huge level of confidence and courage to take the risk to attempt to execute the desired move.

From what I've seen of Lacy he is "gunshy," he's afraid of the counter.

As I said It's a brave man that attempts a risky move such as a sell out left hook or uppercut.
Lacy used to do that all the time after his thudding jab, now he's tentative and shy, he wings hooks from the outside, more hopefully than out of expectation.

Real pity, I liked him very much as a fighter and even more as a guy, he's incredibly amiable.

Originally Posted by Deanrw

Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

Originally Posted by Deanrw

Well Miranda was beaten from ringpost to ringpost for 7 rounds. He absorbed huge punishment from a good puncher. Zertuche also absorbed big punches on a consistent basis for even longer. Miranda could take Abraham's shots in the first fight, he could not in the second one. Zertuche was totally shot after Pavlik and could not even be competative against a much lesser opponent than Pavlik after Pavlik dealt with him.

Maybe it is just me, but I would rather have Joe tee off on me for 12 rounds, than have Pavlik tee off on me for 7.

I also agree however, that Joe took something away from Lacy that fight. Lacy had a very rough go of it that fight.

You cannot seriously be saying that Miranda took more punishment in the Pavlik fight than Lacy did vs Calzaghe!

Calzaghe has far faster hands far better footwork and doesnt hit as hard so you are getting punched to the brink but not quite done then next round same thing. Pavlik at 160lbs beats you up the its over its not prolonged plus fighter will always feel they have a chance against such a limited plodder so they gain confidence. Lacy was beat every second of every round.

There you go again. Calling Pavlik a limited Plodder. I guess that is an upgrade from bum like you called him before.

And Calzaghe nuthuggers wonder why he is so disliked. It is not Joe, but people like you.

Hay i call it how i see it i dont see anything special in Pavlik except he is tall and can punch. We will find what he is made of against Hopkins, i`ll tell you what i think will happen. Pavlik with zero angles will be wrapped up like a fish in a net for 5rds get flusterd and start getting hit against a man that physically stacks up.