From Dan Rafael's Blog on ESPN.COM/BOXING

• Here's a classic example of why the sanctioning organizations are a pathetic joke and why fight fans, TV networks and many of my less educated fellow media members should try to ignore them as much as possible. Dzindziruk is the WBO's junior middleweight titleholder. He is healthy and just made a mandatory defense against Julio on Nov. 1. Yet, for no apparent reason, the WBO has sanctioned a Nov. 29 bout for an interim title between Paul Williams and Verno Phillips. There is no good reason why Williams-Phillips should be for an interim title. The WBO, of course, probably doesn't see it that way. All it sees is the chance to make a few extra bucks on the sanctioning fees.

I also saw that they rated Barrera number 1 at lightweight.

Originally Posted by amat

I also saw that they rated Barrera number 1 at lightweight.

You know King bought him that ranking.

Originally Posted by napoleon336

Originally Posted by amat

I also saw that they rated Barrera number 1 at lightweight.

You know King bought him that ranking.

I would have thought that this proves that the WBO is the greatest sanctioning body

Barrera - Marquez 2?

I've said it before and I'll say it again:

Ignore all sanctioning bodies. Their belts are meaningless. Only pay attention to the Ring belts and what your own eyes tell you.

Ring might just be the most corrupt of them all . I cant let a magazine owned by Oscar dicate to me who the champ is

I judge things on what I see

Originally Posted by GAME

Ring might just be the most corrupt of them all .

How?

I hate to do it, but I agree with Sweet pea . Oscar owns the Ring, yes, but at least they follow who beats who and linearize the champ. It makes a little more sense to me. Nobody's gonna come outta retirement from a loss ranked #1 on the Ring Mag Belt.

But yes, F the belts in the A. We know who the champ is.

The fighter makes the title....Not the other way around....

Thats why you will see most writers worth their salt refer to champions as belt holders now adays....

It has been a long time since the champion of a sanctioning body was actually the champion and not just a belt holder

Well I hate to see what Rafael says about the WBA especially at heavyweight...it's ridiculous

The WBO and Kronk seemed pretty close early on.The belts are such a mish mash now.It truely will cause migrans keeping track.Been said before,Fighters make themselves and give name to a belt,The belts are just along for the ride.

WBO, WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO, ABC, XYZ all the same...

WBC asking Pacquiao to pay $100,000 sanctioning fee for PAC's fight with Hoya... is garbage (before this, WBC pres. Sulaiman labeled the PAC-Hoya fight a farce).

$100,000 for sanctioning fee alone? That's already 3 or 4 times the total purse of JMM when he lost to Chris John...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

WBO, WBC, WBA, IBF, IBO, ABC, XYZ all the same...

WBC asking Pacquiao to pay $100,000 sanctioning fee for PAC's fight with Hoya... is garbage (before this, WBC pres. Sulaiman labeled the PAC-Hoya fight a farce).

$100,000 for sanctioning fee alone? That's already 3 or 4 times the total purse of JMM when he lost to Chris John...
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Was those same sanctioning fees and their high prices that only allowed Baldomir to keep one belt he won off Judah,,,,He could not afford all of them...was more then his purse

Originally Posted by SweetPea

Originally Posted by GAME

Ring might just be the most corrupt of them all .

How?

Its an American based magazine. I dont see how it can be unbiased with Oscar as its owner.

Originally Posted by JonnyFolds

I hate to do it, but I agree with Sweet pea . Oscar owns the Ring, yes, but at least they follow who beats who and linearize the champ. It makes a little more sense to me. Nobody's gonna come outta retirement from a loss ranked #1 on the Ring Mag Belt.

But yes, F the belts in the A. We know who the champ is.

The problem I have with ring magazine is that they had Casa as ring champion conveniently when he was about to fight a golden boy fighter in Marquez. Casa got his ass handed to him by a bum like Santa Cruz yet they still said he was champ but Campbell who beat the next big thing . . the undfeated unified champion in Diaz , is not recognised as the best ?! Gimme a break

Also sus that Pacs apparently the p4p champ according to that mag so isnt it covenient that when Oscar beats him he can say he beat the p4p number 1 . If he wants to beat the best then fight Calzaghe whos unbeaten and has been beating big names.