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    In my opinion pacman is not the best p4p and joe calzaghe is. I have spoken to others about this some who agree some who think pacman is better but how can calzaghe prove he is the best? There is no one left for him to fight except possible a rematch with hopkins.

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    Default Re: best p4p

    pacquiao
    Calzaghe
    Hopkins/Juan Manuel Marquez
    one dangerous horrible bloke

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    Default Re: best p4p

    How about Chadd Dawson?

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    Default Re: best p4p

    And Pac-man is #1, because he has clearly faced better competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rickcuthbert View Post
    In my opinion pacman is not the best p4p and joe calzaghe is. I have spoken to others about this some who agree some who think pacman is better but how can calzaghe prove he is the best? There is no one left for him to fight except possible a rematch with hopkins.
    Fights for Joe Calzaghe ?

    Chad Dawson
    Lucian Bute
    Jermain Taylor
    Carl Froch
    Bernard Hopkins 2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut View Post
    How about Chadd Dawson?


    Dawson.....

    How does Dawson or should I say what has Dawson done to be considered above Israel Vazquez, JMM, Caballero, Hatton etc...

    Wins over Tarver at this stage mean nothing...(Truth is other then wins over a shot Jones and 1 win over Johnson Tarver is shit)

    He has a hard fought win over Johnson many disputed and 1 over Adamek which is his best to date...

    I like Dawson and he is a good fighter but he needs to put in more work before he gets the nod over others like ones I mentioned
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    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut View Post
    How about Chadd Dawson?


    Dawson.....

    How does Dawson or should I say what has Dawson done to be considered above Israel Vazquez, JMM, Caballero, Hatton etc...

    Wins over Tarver at this stage mean nothing...(Truth is other then wins over a shot Jones and 1 win over Johnson Tarver is shit)

    He has a hard fought win over Johnson many disputed and 1 over Adamek which is his best to date...

    I like Dawson and he is a good fighter but he needs to put in more work before he gets the nod over others like ones I mentioned
    I think he meant possible fights for Joe Calzaghe to be P4P number 1.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by DaxxKahn View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut View Post
    How about Chadd Dawson?


    Dawson.....

    How does Dawson or should I say what has Dawson done to be considered above Israel Vazquez, JMM, Caballero, Hatton etc...

    Wins over Tarver at this stage mean nothing...(Truth is other then wins over a shot Jones and 1 win over Johnson Tarver is shit)

    He has a hard fought win over Johnson many disputed and 1 over Adamek which is his best to date...

    I like Dawson and he is a good fighter but he needs to put in more work before he gets the nod over others like ones I mentioned
    I think he meant possible fights for Joe Calzaghe to be P4P number 1.
    If so my mistake
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    A pretty crappy post, but I'll help you out because I am a generous poster.

    There is no comparison. Pacman is p4p #1 without any doubt whatsoever.

    In one year, Pacman beat Barrera at 130, Marquez at 130, Diaz at 135, and Oscar De La Hoya at 147.

    Pacman started his career at 109!!! He just destroyed a first ballot hall of famer at 147!

    Boxing pundits are putting him in the same conversation as Henry Armstrong. Not equating him, but to be mentioned in the same paragraph is credit enough.

    Calzaghe could add to his legacy by facing Chad Dawson.

    IF Calzaghe beat Dawson at 175 before Pacman fights Hatton, you can arguably make that claim. But, if Pacman beats Hatton at 140 to become a champion at junior welter weight, then at time or another he has been champion of 7 weight classes! That is just plain ridiculous. Lunacy really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ICB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rickcuthbert View Post
    In my opinion pacman is not the best p4p and joe calzaghe is. I have spoken to others about this some who agree some who think pacman is better but how can calzaghe prove he is the best? There is no one left for him to fight except possible a rematch with hopkins.
    Fights for Joe Calzaghe ?

    Chad Dawson
    Lucian Bute
    Jermain Taylor
    Carl Froch
    Bernard Hopkins 2
    I'm a Calzaghe fan but would have Pac ahead of him in p4p rankings, dont
    think theres much JC can do to get ahead of him if PAC doesn't get beaten, I think Calzaghes only real options for fights are Chad Dawson or Hopkins 2(neither would make him p4p 1), the first Hopkins fight was an awful fight so can't see that happening again so that leaves Dawson, would like to see it but if he retires I'll respect his decision. as for Bute,Taylor and Froch, I don't think any of them would beat Kessler, back to original point I have it
    Pac 1
    JC 2

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    joe can still fight;pavliktaylorchadbhop againbut honestly even if he wins all four pac continues to fight the best joe still comes out short. Its just joes luck THE LEGEND OF THE PACMAN overshadows him

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    but dont get me wrong, i do think joe is a great fighter but pac is GREATER

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    Its a toss up for me after Saturday . I might have to still rank Calzaghe as number 1 cuz if they met my money would be on Joe and hes had the better career having beaten every man he has ever faced

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    Quote Originally Posted by Julius Rain View Post
    but dont get me wrong, i do think joe is a great fighter but pac is GREATER
    No he isn't he's better than that he's a modern day legend, what he has done is mind boggling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    A pretty crappy post, but I'll help you out because I am a generous poster.

    There is no comparison. Pacman is p4p #1 without any doubt whatsoever.

    In one year, Pacman beat Barrera at 130, Marquez at 130, Diaz at 135, and Oscar De La Hoya at 147.

    Pacman started his career at 109!!! He just destroyed a first ballot hall of famer at 147!

    Boxing pundits are putting him in the same conversation as Henry Armstrong. Not equating him, but to be mentioned in the same paragraph is credit enough.

    Calzaghe could add to his legacy by facing Chad Dawson.

    IF Calzaghe beat Dawson at 175 before Pacman fights Hatton, you can arguably make that claim. But, if Pacman beats Hatton at 140 to become a champion at junior welter weight, then at time or another he has been champion of 7 weight classes! That is just plain ridiculous. Lunacy really.

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