Thread: Vitali and Wlad

I find it kind of strange that , many people on here don't like these two guys.
Lets start with Vitali .
1. Good power punchers.
2. Gets hit but has a TEAK chin.
3. Cuts.
4. Lost twice on injury , and is generally exciting.

Wlad.
1. Excellent speed and power.
2. Vulnerable chin.
3. Been in some up and downers.
4. Always in top shape.

These two are not your usual fat boring HW'S . They are both intelligent , decent blokes to. So its a mystery to me why some of you guys don't like them.
I for one think both are exciting and good to watch.
COMMENTS PLEASE ?

I've got to spread out some reps before giving you any more.


I like both Wlad and Vitali, they always give a good account of themselves in the ring, they are not your average dumb brute prize fighters, and there is more to them than just boxing. They are good representatives of the sport.

I find it funny how people can love how Mayweather could carve someone up but don't like how the Klitschko's control the action using their size and skill to their advantage.

You enjoy Wlad fights?

He is too safety first. He could have had Rahman out in two rounds if he had more arsehole.

Vitali is a different matter.

Originally Posted by Fenster

You enjoy Wlad fights?

He is too safety first. He could have had Rahman out in two rounds if he had more arsehole.

Vitali is a different matter.

Yes i do enjoy Wlad fights , because although he trys to protect his chin , the end is only 1 punch away , because of his power and weak chin, so yes the answer is i do enjoy Wlad fights.

well wald has better skills that Vitali but is kinda chinny but has good power that will put you on your ass.

Vitali has some skills just more power than skills IMO. but also has a good jab which will fuk Haye up since haye isnt exactly a defensive fighter.

This writer Colin Seymore, from the San Fran Examiner, covers much of the the Klitschko Bros. A on Q link below:

SF Boxing Examiner: Pacquiao, Klitschko brothers deserve greater admiration from Americans

I always thought Wlad was a good fighter since he got on board with Steward. Exciting, NO, dominant, YES! Wlad has a very weak chin and it does show in his fighting style. But if you had a weak chin, you would fight the same way.

One thing that bothered me about Wlad this weekend was he only has 3 punches. Jab, straight right, and left hook. He really throws no other punches, even when he has his man laying on the ropes in trouble. It's a lot easier to finish someone when the punches are coming from everywhere!!

Vitali is just a different fighter. As long as he can stay healthy, he should be the recognized heavyweight champ.

Well...you might add that outside the ring both Klitschko are very good rolemodels...no scandals,no bad language and both do quite some charity work...

Originally Posted by C-Lo

I always thought Wlad was a good fighter since he got on board with Steward. Exciting, NO, dominant, YES! Wlad has a very weak chin and it does show in his fighting style. But if you had a weak chin, you would fight the same way.

One thing that bothered me about Wlad this weekend was he only has 3 punches. Jab, straight right, and left hook. He really throws no other punches, even when he has his man laying on the ropes in trouble. It's a lot easier to finish someone when the punches are coming from everywhere!!

Vitali is just a different fighter. As long as he can stay healthy, he should be the recognized heavyweight champ.

Have to agree with you...

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

I find it kind of strange that , many people on here don't like these two guys.
Lets start with Vitali .
1. Good power punchers.
2. Gets hit but has a TEAK chin.
3. Cuts.
4. Lost twice on injury , and is generally exciting.

Wlad.
1. Excellent speed and power.
2. Vulnerable chin.
3. Been in some up and downers.
4. Always in top shape.

These two are not your usual fat boring HW'S . They are both intelligent , decent blokes to. So its a mystery to me why some of you guys don't like them.
I for one think both are exciting and good to watch.
COMMENTS PLEASE ?

As Lyle stated I owe some reps out before I can give you some but they are coming....

I am a fan of both...I think it shows ignorance to think just because a guy is not all out war every bout and likes to make sure he does not get sparked they are boring...Not as if the guy won't fight anyone because he will face anyone worthy......He is a great tactical fighter with exciting power

Vitaly is evemn more exciting because he like a bit more of the rough stuff but same goes for him he is a guy you can not help but like....

The only time I ever had a dilemma with him was his I am coming back no wait I am not returning period of time......

The problem with people who do not see the talent in a fighter like Wlad and do not appreciate the skill level he is on are not true boxing fans...Boxing is about more then the all out assult and quick KO's

They are not the greatest but they are the latest. They are the best heavyweights and I am afraid to say but they will squat Haye like a flea. I hope I am wrong.

Originally Posted by Master

They are not the greatest but they are the latest. They are the best heavyweights and I am afraid to say but they will squat Haye like a flea. I hope I am wrong.

Why are you afraid of that why trade one chinny champ for another....and one with NO boxing skill at that, just because he throws a bunch of power punches. Hey if you want to watch a lack of technical skill on display I suggest the local toughman competitions

Originally Posted by Lyle

I've got to spread out some reps before giving you any more.


I like both Wlad and Vitali, they always give a good account of themselves in the ring, they are not your average dumb brute prize fighters, and there is more to them than just boxing. They are good representatives of the sport.

I find it funny how people can love how Mayweather could carve someone up but don't like how the Klitschko's control the action using their size and skill to their advantage.

good point.. same goes for the haters of mayweathers style.. if you can respect the Klitschko's use of their strengths, then you should be able to do the same for mayweather.. and vice/versa..

I think this is what separates boxing from MMA.. If we always had sluggers like Haye and the like in a boxing ring, then the turnover rate for champions would be really high.. In boxing, strategy and style are much more important.. There are many less one punch knockouts in boxing, but the big punchers can still do it.. If i caught someone flush with a right hand, with an MMA glove even 40-50 lbs heavier than me, i have a good chance of knocking them down, allowing me to jump on them and make the ref call the fight.. In boxing, there is no chance..

this is why i respect Wlad's/Vitali's style, and i see no reason, that if you're a boxing fan, how you can really hate on it even though it's boring at times..

I hate Mayweather's personality as much as I can but as a fighter he's extremely gifted and you just can't help but be amazed at some of the stuff he can do.

Exactly, everyone complains about fat and out of shape has been heavys. Yet they hate on the two best! They are always fit, they have ko power, good boxing ability... but everyone hates them coz theyre tall and the chances of them losing isnt very good. So my question to klitschko haters is... do you hate them because theyre too good for the shit competition around or do you hate them because you think they are shit. You hate them because they arent lennox lewis. You hate them because they arent Ali, Holmes, Tyson, Holyfield etc . Every division has a down period. You can not have legends in every era. SO you can not blame Klitsckos for the fact they have to fight shit competition coz theres nothing else available. You guys long to see the next tyson or lewis come in and destroy these guys, because you feel that you are entitled to see a new great fighter emerge. So my analysis is that you hate on them because you want to see the next great heavyweight and they continue to disappoint you by beating everyone put in front of them.

Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al

Originally Posted by Fenster

You enjoy Wlad fights?

He is too safety first. He could have had Rahman out in two rounds if he had more arsehole.

Vitali is a different matter.

Yes i do enjoy Wlad fights , because although he trys to protect his chin , the end is only 1 punch away , because of his power and weak chin, so yes the answer is i do enjoy Wlad fights.

I guess, to be fair to Wlad, he's fighting pretty negative fighters like himself, so it's only natural the fights will be shit.

He needs a few Corrie Sanders-types to bring out the devil in .. oh.. hang on