Thread: Why do people hate Amir Khan so much? (Ring article attached)

Originally Posted by porkypara

One of the main reasons that people in Britain dont like Khan is because they dont like to see a sucssesfull ,rich Asian bloke.

I know some on here have other reason such as to much media hype/money to soon but thats not exactly his fault is it.

He just fights who gets put in front of him by Warren.


Some dont like him becuse he is calling out the best fighighters in the world at the same time they say he is not fighting good enough opponents.

People hate Warren because he's a closet ginger and bug eyed?

Bandwagon. It sounds cool to hate him thesedays. His brittle chin didn't help him much. But to be honest the guy got some skills. Badly needs to prove the world he ain't shit. Barrera, no matter how faded he is..is a good gut-check for him. If Khan fails, it's over him.Most likely.

not really he wins even if he loses.

'well it's no disgrace to lose to Barrera because he's a legend etc', 'he's young he can come back', 'he's learnt alot from this', 'all the greats have lost'. Heard it all before.

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

I went to a Khan fight to offer some local support, not to Khan. They segregated the fans as they came in, an annoucement came over the speaker system about no racist chants etc not being tolerated and there was a big police pressence.

Annoyed the hell out of me. Especially when a group of lads, all asian, all sporting Khan tracksuits were sat in the opposing area. As the evening went on them were surrounded by police to protect them. They sat about grinning over the shoulders of the police as a few people were escourted out. The whole event had an air of wtf about it.

Nothing against them or Khan but, by forcing the fans to segregate and making an issue about Khans colour it draws attention to something that wasn't a problem until other people made it so. I've never been segregated like that in my life.

I don't like Warren and his overprotection of fighters. It harms the fighter and the quality of the sport in general and I don't like bangwaggons, so called fans who just sign up to a sole fighter based on whatever link they think they have with them.

Those who support Khan because of his ethnicity annoy me just as much as those who don't support him because of his ethnicity.

Which is pretty much the feeling I have toward pacfans in general. Hell at least they have a fighter that's done something to shout about.

Khan tracksuits? How old were they 11/12?

Why were the guys getting escorted out?

I can understand the support because of his ethnicity. Just like I understand why people see that as hypocritical/wrong.

I knew a few Pakistani muslims that would make a big deal about supporting Naz. Would give it the "he is one of us" line. Always found that a bit weird

they were about 18-22ish
Everyone was ignoring them and watching the fight till someone took the decision to place them in police protection. It provoked a tense situation and made it worse. People started lipping them and the porkers.

Thing is Fenster we'd get called racist if we only supported white guys.

Thought you was Mexican?

Those young fools are in the minority though, no?

Originally Posted by porkypara

One of the main reasons that people in Britain dont like Khan is because they dont like to see a sucssesfull ,rich Asian bloke.

I know some on here have other reason such as to much media hype/money to soon but thats not exactly his fault is it.

He just fights who gets put in front of him by Warren.

People in Britain? Don't you mean SOME people?

Khan is one of the most popular fighters in Britain.

Who are these people that resent his success because of his ethnicity? Personally i don't know any.

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

Originally Posted by Fenster

Khan tracksuits? How old were they 11/12?

Why were the guys getting escorted out?

I can understand the support because of his ethnicity. Just like I understand why people see that as hypocritical/wrong.

I knew a few Pakistani muslims that would make a big deal about supporting Naz. Would give it the "he is one of us" line. Always found that a bit weird

they were about 18-22ish
Everyone was ignoring them and watching the fight till someone took the decision to place them in police protection. It provoked a tense situation and made it worse. People started lipping them and the porkers.

Thing is Fenster we'd get called racist if we only supported white guys.

Thought you was Mexican?

Those young fools are in the minority though, no?

Close enough. I like tacos. I only like Barrera, everyone else can die
Su segunda pregunta. Si.

I don't know if it was a subconsciece thing or not but the comparison with Naz came about immediately, and from the press. They have very different fighting styles, and guys like Witter/Froch/Degale are closer to Naz in terms of a boastful peronality.

Regardless whether people here will admit their prejudice or not (maybe it's a subconscious racism), majority of the people dislike Khan simply because he is

A) Of Pakistani background
and
B) He is a Muslim

Majority of the folks here that dislike Khan use excuses such as 'He's cocky' (which fighter isn't?) or 'He doesn't fight great competition' yet even when he's stepping up to fight Barrera, posters here find yet ANOTHER excuse to knock him down.

If Amir Khan was a Mexican fighter with the name Jorge Vicario, a Caucasian British Fighter named Bruce Kingston he would not get NEARLY the same heat he currently receives simply because his ethnic background is Pakistani and he's Muslim

so you saing its just cos he's muslim then ?

Originally Posted by Mark TKO

so you saing its just cos he's muslim then ?

Muslim and Pakistani is what I beleive as to why he garners so much hatred. Another poster from England mentioned awhile ago (can't recall the thread) that he was at his local bar where Khan was fighting and he was caught by surprise by the amount of racial obcenities towards Khan...and this was IN ENGLAND. The same country Khan won a Silver Medal for.

The thing I find most amusing on this forum is the NUMBER of excuses posters use to slag Khan when IMO, it's clearly evident that they are using this excuses to express their inner hatred towards Khan simply because of his ethnic and religious background. Of course, they will not come out and say it as they will be seen as 'racist' so why not slag him for his 'glass chin' and 'his ducking competition'.

Originally Posted by sanchez786

Regardless whether people here will admit their prejudice or not (maybe it's a subconscious racism), majority of the people dislike Khan simply because he is

A) Of Pakistani background
and
B) He is a Muslim

Majority of the folks here that dislike Khan use excuses such as 'He's cocky' (which fighter isn't?) or 'He doesn't fight great competition' yet even when he's stepping up to fight Barrera, posters here find yet ANOTHER excuse to knock him down.

If Amir Khan was a Mexican fighter with the name Jorge Vicario, a Caucasian British Fighter named Bruce Kingston he would not get NEARLY the same heat he currently receives simply because his ethnic background is Pakistani and he's Muslim

The MAJORITY? That is complete nonsense. Unless you can prove it?

So everyone that criticises Floyd Mayweather for being "cocky" is really hating on the black man?

Everyone that criticises Joe Calzaghe for not fighting "great competition" is really hating on the white man?

Ridiculous.

Originally Posted by sanchez786

Regardless whether people here will admit their prejudice or not (maybe it's a subconscious racism), majority of the people dislike Khan simply because he is

A) Of Pakistani background
and
B) He is a Muslim

Majority of the folks here that dislike Khan use excuses such as 'He's cocky' (which fighter isn't?) or 'He doesn't fight great competition' yet even when he's stepping up to fight Barrera, posters here find yet ANOTHER excuse to knock him down.

If Amir Khan was a Mexican fighter with the name Jorge Vicario, a Caucasian British Fighter named Bruce Kingston he would not get NEARLY the same heat he currently receives simply because his ethnic background is Pakistani and he's Muslim

I think people dislike him because he got a really good contract and has fought no one of any real significance, Warren has been protecting him beyond belief and now he has been found out.

I hope he can come back and maybe prove people wrong.

The thing I dislike about him is he is getting in trouble for knocking people down in Bolton Town center whilst jumping a red light, same reason why I cant stand Naseem anymore.

Ok, I'm going to step into this whole race issue, although I before I will say there have been some very good & interesting answers to my question.

In my opinion there is no doubt that some of the hatred towards Khan comes from his race, in some people at least sub-consciously. I've seen a number of people who will get fervently behind any other British fighter going, yet seem to have real disdain for Khan.

However, there are obviously other reasons that play into it that I won't deny such as the PPV deal (which really pissed me off), the talk of taking on Mayweather, Hatton, Pacquiao etc when he still hadn't won anything other than a Commonwealth title, the hype that Warren & the media created round him by virtue of him being a medal winner.

The comparison with Naz has never helped him IMO, because he will never be the same type of fighter & he is nowhere near the cock Naz is. However, this was chiefly created by the media & happily encouraged by those around Khan, the same people who pushed for the PPV deal, principally Asif Valli & Khan's father. They probably thought it was a good idea looking more at Naz' success as a boxer rather than his antics that pissed a lot of people off.

Anyway back to the race issue, & one thing is clear & anyone who read any of the comments sections on British Sports websites after Prescott knocked him out will see that for a number of people his race was a big factor in their dislike. Comments like 'pakistanis are not genetically suited to sports' & 'least he can go back to managing a cornershop' are clearly racist, & these were the ones that weren't immediately deleted by the mods. It has not reached stuff like that on Saddo's thankfully, but I would be lying if I said I hadn't seen stuff that I consider racist on this forum although not necessarily about Amir Khan.

Fenster, I think you are being a bit naive if you don't think that people in London can be openly racist, being an ethnic minority born & raised here I can assure you they very easily can. I remember playing a casual boxing fan on my local football team saying he didn't like Khan because he was 'too big for his own boots'. Maybe being mixed-race I do tend to read more or analyse what people say in a way others might not, but I have definitely heard & read things about Khan that I consider racist. I would also say Fenster that you should take it as a good sign you don't know anyone who's racist about Khan, it just means you keep good company

Missy, I think the support of Khan is more down to identification. Generally people will choose to support a fighter due to either liking their fighting style or because they identify with them on some level. Young, Asian men choosing to support Khan is no different than the young white men (not always big boxing fans) who go out to Las Vegas to support Ricky Hatton, neither bothers me, I would just like it if they would make the effort to know more about the sport in general. I will tell you something else, very few black or Asian people will tell you that you're a racist if you choose to support a white fighter, because there is nothing wrong with it. William Dettloff did a really good article on it online just before the Pavlik-Hopkins fight. I will be honest enough to say that if a black fighter is up against white fighter, & I have no allegiance to either, then I will root for the black guy more. If a white person did the same the other way round it wouldn't be racist, at least no more than me doing it. The Pac-fans don't bother me for their support of Pac, only for their lack of general boxing knowledge.

Sanchez, as you can see above I don't think racism is non-existent here, however suggesting that there cannot be any other reasons to dislike Amir Khan is wrong, and yes whilst I agree that those factors have played some part, the posters here deserve better than being called racists simply on the basis of the Warren factor. If these same posters are singing Frankie Gavin's praises IF he has 20 fights under Warren you will have a point, but until then you simply don't.

I will reiterate though that I feel like some others that Khan's race (& his religion in the current climate) do play a role in the dislike that SOME have for him. He is nowhere near as cocky as other British boxers (Froch, Witter) & yes the hype is irritating but its not his fault, & I'd like to think that if he does beat Barrera than some will start to cut him a bit more slack (also as a final point MAB is a legend who deserves all the support he will get here in a months time). Let's all look forward to a good fight

Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Ok, I'm going to step into this whole race issue, although I before I will say there have been some very good & interesting answers to my question.

In my opinion there is no doubt that some of the hatred towards Khan comes from his race, in some people at least sub-consciously. I've seen a number of people who will get fervently behind any other British fighter going, yet seem to have real disdain for Khan.

However, there are obviously other reasons that play into it that I won't deny such as the PPV deal (which really pissed me off), the talk of taking on Mayweather, Hatton, Pacquiao etc when he still hadn't won anything other than a Commonwealth title, the hype that Warren & the media created round him by virtue of him being a medal winner.

The comparison with Naz has never helped him IMO, because he will never be the same type of fighter & he is nowhere near the cock Naz is. However, this was chiefly created by the media & happily encouraged by those around Khan, the same people who pushed for the PPV deal, principally Asif Valli & Khan's father. They probably thought it was a good idea looking more at Naz' success as a boxer rather than his antics that pissed a lot of people off.

Anyway back to the race issue, & one thing is clear & anyone who read any of the comments sections on British Sports websites after Prescott knocked him out will see that for a number of people his race was a big factor in their dislike. Comments like 'pakistanis are not genetically suited to sports' & 'least he can go back to managing a cornershop' are clearly racist, & these were the ones that weren't immediately deleted by the mods. It has not reached stuff like that on Saddo's thankfully, but I would be lying if I said I hadn't seen stuff that I consider racist on this forum although not necessarily about Amir Khan.

Fenster, I think you are being a bit naive if you don't think that people in London can be openly racist, being an ethnic minority born & raised here I can assure you they very easily can. I remember playing a casual boxing fan on my local football team saying he didn't like Khan because he was 'too big for his own boots'. Maybe being mixed-race I do tend to read more or analyse what people say in a way others might not, but I have definitely heard & read things about Khan that I consider racist. I would also say Fenster that you should take it as a good sign you don't know anyone who's racist about Khan, it just means you keep good company

Missy, I think the support of Khan is more down to identification. Generally people will choose to support a fighter due to either liking their fighting style or because they identify with them on some level. Young, Asian men choosing to support Khan is no different than the young white men (not always big boxing fans) who go out to Las Vegas to support Ricky Hatton, neither bothers me, I would just like it if they would make the effort to know more about the sport in general. I will tell you something else, very few black or Asian people will tell you that you're a racist if you choose to support a white fighter, because there is nothing wrong with it. William Dettloff did a really good article on it online just before the Pavlik-Hopkins fight. I will be honest enough to say that if a black fighter is up against white fighter, & I have no allegiance to either, then I will root for the black guy more. If a white person did the same the other way round it wouldn't be racist, at least no more than me doing it. The Pac-fans don't bother me for their support of Pac, only for their lack of general boxing knowledge.

Sanchez, as you can see above I don't think racism is non-existent here, however suggesting that there cannot be any other reasons to dislike Amir Khan is wrong, and yes whilst I agree that those factors have played some part, the posters here deserve better than being called racists simply on the basis of the Warren factor. If these same posters are singing Frankie Gavin's praises IF he has 20 fights under Warren you will have a point, but until then you simply don't.

I will reiterate though that I feel like some others that Khan's race (& his religion in the current climate) do play a role in the dislike that SOME have for him. He is nowhere near as cocky as other British boxers (Froch, Witter) & yes the hype is irritating but its not his fault, & I'd like to think that if he does beat Barrera than some will start to cut him a bit more slack (also as a final point MAB is a legend who deserves all the support he will get here in a months time). Let's all look forward to a good fight

Excellent Post! For posters here to state there EXTREME hate for Khan is strictly because of his glass chin and his questionable competition are being ridiculously NAIVE! As you mentioned, subconsciouly, the racism is there yet to cover this, posters CONTINOUSLY you the same excuse about Khan over and over and over again.

Am I excusing Khan of not having his faults and he deserves to be criticized? ABSOLUTELY NOT! I will be the first to say he has a chin made of the finest China. I use to speak about his weak competition but now that's he stepping up to fight Barrera, I have changed my tune in that regard. Yet instead of giving praise to Khan for fighting tough competition, he gets SLAGGED on even more. LOL...the subconcious racism is so apparent, it's mind-boggling.

From all interviews of Khan I've seen, he actually seems to be a decent individual. Critcizing a boxer is one thing. But what I've found on this forum and MANY other is the sheer amount of HATRED expressed towards Khan. I've never seen any boxer that has been HATED on so much as Khan (again criticism is one thing, but HATRED is something else). It seems posters here look for the opportunity to say something negative about him. IMO, as JazMerkin has stated, his Race and Religion have ALOT to do with it. Posters here just refuse to come to terms with their inner racism to admit it.

Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Missy, I think the support of Khan is more down to identification. Generally people will choose to support a fighter due to either liking their fighting style or because they identify with them on some level. Young, Asian men choosing to support Khan is no different than the young white men (not always big boxing fans) who go out to Las Vegas to support Ricky Hatton, neither bothers me, I would just like it if they would make the effort to know more about the sport in general. I will tell you something else, very few black or Asian people will tell you that you're a racist if you choose to support a white fighter, because there is nothing wrong with it. William Dettloff did a really good article on it online just before the Pavlik-Hopkins fight. I will be honest enough to say that if a black fighter is up against white fighter, & I have no allegiance to either, then I will root for the black guy more. If a white person did the same the other way round it wouldn't be racist, at least no more than me doing it. The Pac-fans don't bother me for their support of Pac, only for their lack of general boxing knowledge.

howdy - but I'm at least glad you can see my point? Qui?

Interesting you'll admit to betting on black. Why is that?

As for the hating on Khan because he's muslim/pakistani. Nope check my record. I pretty much hate on all British fighters

Something else I'd like to throw in here. Whilst we can admit that some people will hate on Khan because of colour/religion etc. There are plenty of people - and we're all guilty of it who just resort to name calling playground tactics. It doesn't have to have meaning or racist intent.

If a fat knacker walks in front of my car I give 'em abuse. In fact it happened the other day. One frizzy ginger haired cow and her black mate just held up her hand stopped the traffic and sauntered across the road. My language was less than ladylike as they chose to eyeball me.

Am I gingerist or racist? No. But I reserve the right to hurl abuse when people piss me off. That's the point of it.