Thread: Boxing History Lesson?

I'm not so hot on my boxing history having only come really into it in the past few years. Think the first fight I remember watching was Benn Eubank but wasn't much into boxing at the time.

So my question to you boxing supremos out there would be which 5 - 10 pre 1990 boxers (excluding Ali, Frazier, Marciano, Sugar Ray, Hagler n Hearns) would you recommend anyone look at, just to get a bit of perspective?

Plus I get so lost on here sometimes when these old boxers are mentioned, feel like I'm missing out on a shed load.

Maybe your top 5 fights as well?

Ta very much

Arguello, Duran, Holmes, Michael Spinks, Salvador Sanchez are guys that I saw a lot of

Well pre-1990 is a lot of boxers...

Alexis Arguello
Bob Foster
Bobby Chacon - one of the most exciting fighters in history
Carlos Monzon
Emile Griffith
Ruben Olivares
Wilfredo Gomez
Gilberto Roman
Masao Ohba


Top 5 fights (Well mine change from time to time) I'll try and list some which I think you probably haven't seen. For the record these are all fights of the year.

Jorge F. Castro vs. John D. Jackson 1
Bobby Chacon vs. Cornelius Boza-Edwards 2
Danny Lopez vs. Mike Ayala
Rocky Marciano vs. Roland LaStarza 2
Bob Foster vs. Chris Finnegan

Non-Fights of the year

Jorge Barrios vs. Acelino Freitas
Manuel Gomez vs. Jeffrey Hill
Azumah Nelson vs. Wilfredo Gomez
Ruben Olivares vs. Kazuyoshi Kanazawa 2
Roberto Duran vs. Esteban De Jesus 1, 2 or 3

Cheers chaps, I shall most definitely be looking these up on youtube n what not

Very helpful fellas indeed

I'll just throw up some off the beaten path ones,because sooner or later everybody is going to hit the main ones
And keep in mind these are just guys I like watching their fights,Im not saying they were all time greats
Ingemar Johanson
George Chuvallo
Emile Griffith
Ron Lyle
Dick Tiger Ihetu

Originally Posted by clintuk

I'm not so hot on my boxing history having only come really into it in the past few years. Think the first fight I remember watching was Benn Eubank but wasn't much into boxing at the time.

So my question to you boxing supremos out there would be which 5 - 10 pre 1990 boxers (excluding Ali, Frazier, Marciano, Sugar Ray, Hagler n Hearns) would you recommend anyone look at, just to get a bit of perspective?

Plus I get so lost on here sometimes when these old boxers are mentioned, feel like I'm missing out on a shed load.

Maybe your top 5 fights as well?

Ta very much

Benny Leonard, Ray Robinson, Jack Dempsey George Foreman, Jake Lamotta Get acquainted with some of the historical fights such as Joe Louis vs Max Schmeling or Muhammad Ali vs Joe Frazier. And if you can find it HBO has put on a series called legendary nights which is awesome because it gets behind the stories of fighters and fights that took place through the years.

Check out some Azumah Nelson...you can not go wrong with the Professor.I believe the Lt.heavy battles after Fosters void were an underrated golden era in the 70's with sensational battles....and the Spinks

And I find trilogies give a great perspective of different fighters as they span a number of years and sometimes eras.
Zale vs. Graziano for starters,Saddler vs. Pep,Monzon vs.Valdes,Patterson vs. Ingo,on & on & on.

Roberto Duran
Aaron Pryor
Alexis Arguello
Ruben Olivares
Carlos Monzon
Salvador Sanchez
Azumah Nelson
Wilfredo Gomez
Jeff Fenech
Bob Foster
Fighting Harada
Ray Mancini

An even dozen from me with plenty of footage of all of them available out there somewhere.
Search for
Pryor V Arguello
Sanchez V Gomez
Fenech V Nelson 1
Arguello V Mancini
Monzon V Valdez
Duran V Leonard 1
Arguello V Olivares

Originally Posted by clintuk

I'm not so hot on my boxing history having only come really into it in the past few years. Think the first fight I remember watching was Benn Eubank but wasn't much into boxing at the time.

So my question to you boxing supremos out there would be which 5 - 10 pre 1990 boxers (excluding Ali, Frazier, Marciano, Sugar Ray, Hagler n Hearns) would you recommend anyone look at, just to get a bit of perspective?

Plus I get so lost on here sometimes when these old boxers are mentioned, feel like I'm missing out on a shed load.

Maybe your top 5 fights as well?

Ta very much

Pre 1990 hmmmmm...........

Jorge Paez, a fighter that will make you say WTF? Noone fought like him.
Pretty sure CutMeMick has already posted this vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9vE33zvH4g

Dwight Muhammad Qawi, always exciting only knew how to come forward and keep throwing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fIoY2dL8rU

Khaosai Galaxy, sick power for a little guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7370k-7n0HU

Joe Louis, has a special out on HBO now excellent to watch. One of, if not the, greatest heavyweights of all time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPQlNhGMlGQ

Charley Burley, amazing defensive work, not too much footage on him is available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4IsZxqeJos

Jose Ruiz Ramirez was a common thread between a lot of phenomenal fighters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbsytjJCO2o

Originally Posted by killersheep

Originally Posted by clintuk

I'm not so hot on my boxing history having only come really into it in the past few years. Think the first fight I remember watching was Benn Eubank but wasn't much into boxing at the time.

So my question to you boxing supremos out there would be which 5 - 10 pre 1990 boxers (excluding Ali, Frazier, Marciano, Sugar Ray, Hagler n Hearns) would you recommend anyone look at, just to get a bit of perspective?

Plus I get so lost on here sometimes when these old boxers are mentioned, feel like I'm missing out on a shed load.

Maybe your top 5 fights as well?

Ta very much

Pre 1990 hmmmmm...........

Jorge Paez, a fighter that will make you say WTF? Noone fought like him.
Pretty sure CutMeMick has already posted this vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9vE33zvH4g

Dwight Muhammad Qawi, always exciting only knew how to come forward and keep throwing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fIoY2dL8rU

Khaosai Galaxy, sick power for a little guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7370k-7n0HU

Joe Louis, has a special out on HBO now excellent to watch. One of, if not the, greatest heavyweights of all time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPQlNhGMlGQ

Charley Burley, amazing defensive work, not too much footage on him is available.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4IsZxqeJos

Jose Ruiz Ramirez was a common thread between a lot of phenomenal fighters.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbsytjJCO2o

Thanks very much!... some great vids there, Paez almost seems like Hamed's master, really odd fighting style, definitely a "WTF" moment, very true

And that little guy, Galaxy, geez, how broad were his shoulders?!..mini Tyson or what!

im in a similar situation..

only really came into the sport properly as a spectator a few years back and sad to admit ive probably seen more of rocky juarez than aaron pryor and more nikolay valuev than george foreman

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

im in a similar situation..

only really came into the sport properly as a spectator a few years back and sad to admit ive probably seen more of rocky juarez than aaron pryor and more nikolay valuev than george foreman

Yeah it really does suck doesn't it...hell of a lot to catch up on but luckily with youtube n sites like this makes the job easier than it ever has been I guess

I made a playlist on youtube with footage of most of the Ring Magazine FOTY's on of the last 50 years, over 3 hours of video!..just gotta find the time to watch it

Dope!!
send a link

Originally Posted by dee_z_r

Dope!!
send a link

Ah well, since you ask with a big smile... go on then

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Enjoy!... I haven't even started watching it yet!

Bobby Chacon
Danny "Little Red" Lopez
Carl "The Cat" Thompson (U.K.)
"The Outlaw" Jame Hughes
Saad Mohammed
Myung-Woo Yuh (South Korea)
Masa Ohba (Japan)