Thread: Is Khan vs JMM or Guzman plausible?

Originally Posted by Taeth

I am not argueing the outcome of the fight, I am just saying that due to Khan's celebrity status it seems like an obvious option for either Guzman or JMM to take while waiting for bigger fights.

Guzman is not plausible because Guzman brings no money to the table. Khan's not going to fight a dangerous opponent unless that opponent brings a big fanbase and a big paycheck.

Khan can make just as much money fighting far less dangerous opponents than Guzman.

Fair enough.

Originally Posted by SweetPea

Originally Posted by Taeth

I am not argueing the outcome of the fight, I am just saying that due to Khan's celebrity status it seems like an obvious option for either Guzman or JMM to take while waiting for bigger fights.

Guzman is not plausible because Guzman brings no money to the table. Khan's not going to fight a dangerous opponent unless that opponent brings a big fanbase and a big paycheck.

Khan can make just as much money fighting far less dangerous opponents than Guzman.

Not to mention the fact that he wouldn't make weight

I think Katsidis, Arthur or Murray should be next on Khan's list.

He has no need to be thrown straight into a fight with one of the elite, he's not ready for that.

Let Freddie work with him for another year and I believe he will be ready for the likes of Marquez and Diaz, who I'm sure will, according to the haters be shot, too old, tiny and past it by then anyways and obviously gimme fights for the opportunistic Khan/Warren vulture team.

Khan said in an interview that he was not ready for JMM and and wanted 2 or 3 fights more. he probably will fight for the European title or rematch with Prescott.

Good to know, I am honestly surprised so many people are so critical of his win against Barrera. Once again I am worried because the few times he was hit clean he seemed to temporarily lose his footing, but he looked fast and sharp, and he is the reason IMO Pacquiao beat Oscar so easily, after dealing with that speed he probably though Oscar was moving in slow motion.

I also noticed that Khan had some swelling on his face, yet I hardly seen him hit by Barrera.

I think JMM/Khan is a good fight for both fighters.

For JMM, Khan is a young gun with alot of hype and would not be viewed as a weak opponent.

For Khan, he would be stepping up against a great fighter close to his prime.

Khan wont be able to walk through JMM's punches while beating him down mercilessly, leaving him a bloody mess, I can tell you that much.

Taeth, been drinking again?


I mean seriously why would a P4P fighter in his right mind make a fight with Amir Khan? I mean seriously? You've gotta be kidding be kiding?

Stay busy fight until they find other opponents... As I mentioned JMM wants top names.

Khan aside from money brings nothing to his legacy.
I mean absolutely nothing and that's what JMM is after.
The money is a plus.

Khans spees will giva just about anyone problems but doesn't mean much.

Have I been drinking again, how is what I am saying not worth saying? Either than Guzman who is there for him to fight? He can't go up to WW to face Cotto or Mosley, he isn't the right type of fighter. Pacquiao is fighting Hatton, and Mayweather would likely only want the winner of that fight not to mention Cotto and Mosley as well, and Floyd is a guy Marquez can't beat so why would he want to face Mayweather at 147?

Amir Khan is an easy way to make money against a recognizable opponent, and beating Amir Khan who could very likely be something down the road will certainly help Marquez's legacy. If he fights Amir Khan 2 years down the road he might get a thrashing like Barrera did, and that would hurt his legacy. They are likely going to fight at some point, and the longer Marquez waits the more it works in Khan's favor.

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Taeth, been drinking again?


I mean seriously why would a P4P fighter in his right mind make a fight with Amir Khan? I mean seriously? You've gotta be kidding be kiding?

Stay busy fight until they find other opponents... As I mentioned JMM wants top names.

Khan aside from money brings nothing to his legacy.
I mean absolutely nothing and that's what JMM is after.
The money is a plus.

Khans spees will giva just about anyone problems but doesn't mean much.

I disagree, I think JMM first priority is MONEY at this stage in his career....

I think JMM is a fighter who hasnt been a huge draw and needs to cash in while he can......I think Khan/JMM can be made for big dollars and JMM will be interested. I also think JMM will think he has a pretty good shot at beating Khan. The big fighters near the weight now are Pac/hatton/Mosley/Mayweather....JMM is down the chain a ways and will be left out in the cold.

Originally Posted by Hunter

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Taeth, been drinking again?


I mean seriously why would a P4P fighter in his right mind make a fight with Amir Khan? I mean seriously? You've gotta be kidding be kiding?

Stay busy fight until they find other opponents... As I mentioned JMM wants top names.

Khan aside from money brings nothing to his legacy.
I mean absolutely nothing and that's what JMM is after.
The money is a plus.

Khans spees will giva just about anyone problems but doesn't mean much.

I disagree, I think JMM first priority is MONEY at this stage in his career....

I think JMM is a fighter who hasnt been a huge draw and needs to cash in while he can......I think Khan/JMM can be made for big dollars and JMM will be interested. I also think JMM will think he has a pretty good shot at beating Khan. The big fighters near the weight now are Pac/hatton/Mosley/Mayweather....JMM is down the chain a ways and will be left out in the cold.

There is one thing JMM is fighting for now that's his #1 priority and that's legacy. The money is important but I think he wants more weight on the legacy aspect of his career. Which is why he wants to fight Pac again he went to the Filipines to challenge him. He moved up in weight and fought Casamayor the lineal champ and took on Diaz.
Does that sound like someone who's interest is to make money only?

Let's keep in mind Nacho used to manage them and it was never about money it was about fighting the best. Now he's handled by GBP who ofcourse will make the best fights that will bring in the most cash for THEM as a team which includes the fighter.

I agree that the fight makes money, if you read back on my posts I didn't say it didn't what I said is it makes no sense for his legacy and brings nothing to his career.
If people are saying beating a "pudgy" "young" & "inexperienced" Diaz means nothing then what will be said if he takes on Khan?

Originally Posted by Taeth

Have I been drinking again, how is what I am saying not worth saying? Either than Guzman who is there for him to fight? He can't go up to WW to face Cotto or Mosley, he isn't the right type of fighter. Pacquiao is fighting Hatton, and Mayweather would likely only want the winner of that fight not to mention Cotto and Mosley as well, and Floyd is a guy Marquez can't beat so why would he want to face Mayweather at 147?

Amir Khan is an easy way to make money against a recognizable opponent, and beating Amir Khan who could very likely be something down the road will certainly help Marquez's legacy. If he fights Amir Khan 2 years down the road he might get a thrashing like Barrera did, and that would hurt his legacy. They are likely going to fight at some point, and the longer Marquez waits the more it works in Khan's favor.

Valero-Pitalua takes place next month.
JMM just fought at the end of the last month if Valero wins a matchup with him would do much more for his legacy then a fight vs. Khan.

I think JMM will see Khan as a big money, well known/hyped young gun that is flawed and may be there for the taking.

I think the winner of Hatton/Pac takes on Mosley who than possibly takes on Mayweather (or vice versa) which leaves JMM in the cold for at least a year and a half.

Khan doesnt seem like a bad option....

Originally Posted by Hunter

I think JMM will see Khan as a big money, well known/hyped young gun that is flawed and may be there for the taking.

I think the winner of Hatton/Pac takes on Mosley who than possibly takes on Mayweather (or vice versa) which leaves JMM in the cold for at least a year and a half.

Khan doesnt seem like a bad option....

When your argueably the #1 P4P fighter in the world AND you have GBP handling your career chances are you wont be left in the cold.

One things certain win/lose or draw JMM will fight whomever from Hatton-Pac and it will be a big fight.

Who knows I mean Holt-Bradley are about to unify the fight can def. catapult them up towards a JMM fight at 140 adding to the fight will be the magnitude in JMM being the 1st Mexican EVER to capture a 4th world title in a 4th div. which would make the event huge. Of course it would be even bigger if it can be done with the winner of Hatton-Pac but that is yet to be seen.

Originally Posted by CutMeMick

Taeth, been drinking again?


I mean seriously why would a P4P fighter in his right mind make a fight with Amir Khan? I mean seriously? You've gotta be kidding be kiding?

Stay busy fight until they find other opponents... As I mentioned JMM wants top names.

Khan aside from money brings nothing to his legacy.
I mean absolutely nothing and that's what JMM is after.
The money is a plus.

Khans spees will giva just about anyone problems but doesn't mean much.

Mick I usally admire you boxing knowledge but you're way wide of the mark on this one.

Amir Khan very possibly just retired Marco Antonio Barrera. Forget the cut, forget whether he deserved the win, but those are the facts. He won, he won every single round on the judges scorecard and he's only 22 and an Olympic Silver Medalist.

Assuming Manny won't be fighting Marquez any time soon, Campbell has moved up, he's already dispatched both Casamayor and Diaz.

From a financial point of view, from a media interest point of view, from a name point of view who else is there out there bigger than Amir Khan?

You're saying he so many bigger options but what are they?

My bet is Marquez would most certainly agree to fight Amir Khan, relishing the chance to take on a young prospect who just defeated a legend and who has an Olympic medal, how could you possibly think otherwise?

Calzaghe fought Peter Manfredo to make some big money from the Contender fans you don't think Marquez would fancy a huge payday against a legend killer?

How many fighters defeat a legend and then don't go on to get a big world title fight?

Danny Williams went from nobody to fighting Vitali Klitschko after beating Tyson.

Whether you rate Khan or not the boxing world will much rather see Marquez fight Khan than they would Ali Funeka, Breidas Prescott, even Humberto Soto or Juan Guzman.

Why? Because he beat Marco Antonio Barrera. That's it, he's an Olympian, he's exciting, he can sell a shit load of tickets and is already a ppv star in the UK, and as I said before he beat Marco Antonio Barrera.

He jumps to the very top of the list of potential, lucrative opponents for Juan Manuel Marquez and my bet is Juan and his team would love that fight.

HBO would love it, they could easily hype a young 22 kid, an Olympic star and a Marco Antonio Barrera conqueror.

He's a promoters dream now.