Thread: Say what you like - Khan should never have won

Say what you like - Khan should never have won

Yes, I can be accused of flogging a dead horse but I thought it was a good article and not from someone who could (unlike me) be accused of being a hugger.

Guess it's more for your reading pleasure than to get in an argument about.

Khan should not have been declared the winner. This result is a sad reflection upon British boxing. The media have lost their heads completely in their evaluation of Khan's win. It was not impressive, it was total and utter crap.

If I was Barrera I would actually sue the British officials. I've certainly seen fights stopped for far less.

if an accidental headbutt occured within 4 rounds then if it gets stopped its a no contest right? but if a cut bad enough to stop the fight was caused by a punch then thats a tko?

yes.

Originally Posted by mnmc10

if an accidental headbutt occured within 4 rounds then if it gets stopped its a no contest right? but if a cut bad enough to stop the fight was caused by a punch then thats a tko?

That's right. Barrera was hit on the head with a butt in the second minute.
And the blood flowed for nearly 20 minutes before they stopped it. Shouldve have been a NC.

Did Khan really beat Barrera? Not at all. Of course Khan thinks he has answered his critics.

yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one

Originally Posted by Mark TKO

yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one

I think a rematch is the only way to settle it. But you have to argue, why would Barrera ever want to go through that again. Khan could do it but he wouldn't in a million years.

I honestly think Barrera would spark him in 8.

timing.


If the reports are accurate it means he is out for 5 to 6 months. I believe the plan would have been to manouvre him for a world title sooner rather than later.

As it is Khan moves up that spot & Barrera, Barrera would have challenged for a title as his next fight, fairly sure of this, Khan gets 1 or 2 easy fights to polish up his new style and a title shot.

Who knows maybe see if Khan can get an alphabet title during his lay off, Barrera challenges for a rematch & gets a title at a 4th weight

Originally Posted by Mark TKO

yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one

Nah Lewis beat Vitali fair and sqaure . He punched Vitali until he could no longer go on . Thats a legit stoppage . No headbutts involved but when a guy nuts the other in the opening seconds they shouldnt have waited conveniently until round 5 to stop it . They only made Barrera suffer that long so they could call Khan the winner.

I agree.

It should of been stopped in the first.

Originally Posted by GAME

Originally Posted by Mark TKO

yep - just like Lewis v Vitali

It's a tough one. Barrera wanted to continue, the ref and doctor were probably shitting themselves in case they stopped it and the crowd got a tad upset .

Agree about the fact it's all been blown into a roaring Khan success and hiow he is now world class again though



I now honestly think a rematch needs to happen to draw a line under it. Am surprised MAB hasn't made noises about one

Nah Lewis beat Vitali fair and sqaure . He punched Vitali until he could no longer go on . Thats a legit stoppage . No headbutts involved but when a guy nuts the other in the opening seconds they shouldnt have waited conveniently until round 5 to stop it . They only made Barrera suffer that long so they could call Khan the winner.

Yes I know Lewis beat Vitali fair and square - which is why I said that ??

Wonder whats gonna happen when Khan when Khan wins again

Probably the same journalists will be saying that the cut caused Barerra the loss will be saying Barerra should havent fought again and how easily Khan handled him in the first fight showed he had nothing left...

And suddenly the cut will not be a factor in Barerra's performance of the first fight, it will be evidence he was past it, and Khan will get no credit once again.

Another lose-lose situation

Originally Posted by Majesty

Wonder whats gonna happen when Khan when Khan wins again

Probably the same journalists will be saying that the cut caused Barerra the loss will be saying Barerra should havent fought again and how easily Khan handled him in the first fight showed he had nothing left...

And suddenly the cut will not be a factor in Barerra's performance of the first fight, it will be evidence he was past it, and Khan will get no credit once again.

Another lose-lose situation

I have to agree. Maybe it should have been a NC but i still think Khan beats him again, to big to fast.

Also I aint payin to watch it again.Im sure alot of other people wouldn't either. Makes no sense for Khan now. his team wanna take the confidence he gained and move on.

Ok,going way smaller,but to put it in to perspective,Rivas's people want a rematch and so do we,because it got screwed up by a bad corner,and we arent sure who would have won.
So Rivas isnt sure she won,and we arent sure we lost.
Khan should want the same thing if he was a true warrior,he should want to prove that wasnt a fluke,or because of the cut,but that he can really beat the man.
Tap tap on the heart to Lorissa for being more of a warrior then Khan is.
I actually wanted to like Khan,but he's being a total douche

Originally Posted by Majesty

Wonder whats gonna happen when Khan when Khan wins again

Probably the same journalists will be saying that the cut caused Barerra the loss will be saying Barerra should havent fought again and how easily Khan handled him in the first fight showed he had nothing left...

And suddenly the cut will not be a factor in Barerra's performance of the first fight, it will be evidence he was past it, and Khan will get no credit once again.

Another lose-lose situation

So are you trying to say that the cut had no bearing on Barrera's performance?

Well I'm sorry but when you have that much blood pissing in your eyes that you surely can't see, you are at a disadvantage. Even Ali needed his eyes, remember the first fight with Liston when he was blinded? He had to dance and stay out of the way until his vision cleared and then got back into his groove and tormented Sonny into quitting.

I think that a similar thing could have happened here but Barrera was never going to clear up because it was a CUT that was making him blind and therefore due to the severity of the cut initially, it should have been waved off at the end of round 1 and ultimately called a NC.