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    Default Re: Another PR vs RP

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Wow... didn't realize Ivan's 34 already. Maybe not old for heavyweights, but a little long in the tooth for the little guys. I hope Ivan squeezes in a couple more fights against top opposition before he decides to hang it up.
    Calderon is there for the taking. I think the flip can do it
    His lack of punching power is kind of an equalizer for opponents... but I think Ivan's still slick enough to outbox most potential opponents out there. I think a year or two more at most is what Ivan has left.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    RP vs. PR is heating up...

    "Campeon vs. Campeon" JuanMa defeated Peñalosa...

    Calderon vs. Mayol coming up...

    On August 22, another "Campeon vs. Campeon" Nonito Donaire vs. Jose "Carita" Lopez ...

    And if Morel upsets Montiel, there's a possibility of Morel vs. Peñalosa at bantamweight...
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    i highly doubt Morel will beat Montiel though, he honestly has looked like crap since he lost his 0, Martin Castillo put quite a whooping on him, and i doubt that the jail time did him much good at least in regards to his career, wouldn't mind seeing Viloria Vs. Calderon though either
    That's a big if ...

    Viloria vs. Calderon is very interesting... It's a unification fight... And they met 3 times before in the amateurs with Viloria having 2 wins over Calderon...
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    Default Re: Another PR vs RP

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    RP vs. PR is heating up...

    "Campeon vs. Campeon" JuanMa defeated Peñalosa...

    Calderon vs. Mayol coming up...

    On August 22, another "Campeon vs. Campeon" Nonito Donaire vs. Jose "Carita" Lopez ...

    And if Morel upsets Montiel, there's a possibility of Morel vs. Peñalosa at bantamweight...
    .
    i highly doubt Morel will beat Montiel though, he honestly has looked like crap since he lost his 0, Martin Castillo put quite a whooping on him, and i doubt that the jail time did him much good at least in regards to his career, wouldn't mind seeing Viloria Vs. Calderon though either
    That's a big if ...

    Viloria vs. Calderon is very interesting... It's a unification fight... And they met 3 times before in the amateurs with Viloria having 2 wins over Calderon...
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    and we've seen it time and time again, that amateur fights mean jack shit when it comes to the pros lol

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    Default Re: Another PR vs RP

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
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    i highly doubt Morel will beat Montiel though, he honestly has looked like crap since he lost his 0, Martin Castillo put quite a whooping on him, and i doubt that the jail time did him much good at least in regards to his career, wouldn't mind seeing Viloria Vs. Calderon though either
    That's a big if ...

    Viloria vs. Calderon is very interesting... It's a unification fight... And they met 3 times before in the amateurs with Viloria having 2 wins over Calderon...
    .
    and we've seen it time and time again, that amateur fights mean jack shit when it comes to the pros lol
    Yeah it's true... Just like Nonito Donaire's win over Cobra Martinez in the amateurs, it doesn't mean shit... No meaning at all in the pros...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    That's a big if ...

    Viloria vs. Calderon is very interesting... It's a unification fight... And they met 3 times before in the amateurs with Viloria having 2 wins over Calderon...
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    and we've seen it time and time again, that amateur fights mean jack shit when it comes to the pros lol
    Yeah it's true... Just like Nonito Donaire's win over Cobra Martinez in the amateurs, it doesn't mean shit... No meaning at all in the pros...
    .
    See, that's how you lose credibility... by arguing against a point by citing ONE example. How 'bout the other times where the guy that won in the amateurs loses in the pros? (See: Cotto-Abdullaev, Cotto-Pinto)


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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    That's a big if ...

    Viloria vs. Calderon is very interesting... It's a unification fight... And they met 3 times before in the amateurs with Viloria having 2 wins over Calderon...
    .
    and we've seen it time and time again, that amateur fights mean jack shit when it comes to the pros lol
    Yeah it's true... Just like Nonito Donaire's win over Cobra Martinez in the amateurs, it doesn't mean shit... No meaning at all in the pros...
    .
    same thing as Pinto, Torres, and Abduaev all having amateur wins over Cotto

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    and we've seen it time and time again, that amateur fights mean jack shit when it comes to the pros lol
    Yeah it's true... Just like Nonito Donaire's win over Cobra Martinez in the amateurs, it doesn't mean shit... No meaning at all in the pros...
    .
    See, that's how you lose credibility... by arguing against a point by citing ONE example. How 'bout the other times where the guy that won in the amateurs loses in the pros? (See: Cotto-Abdullaev, Cotto-Pinto)

    he he ... I agree that amateurs is totally different from the pros... There's no argument here in the first place... Viloria's 2 wins over Calderon in the amateurs has no meaning at all in the pros...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post

    Yeah it's true... Just like Nonito Donaire's win over Cobra Martinez in the amateurs, it doesn't mean shit... No meaning at all in the pros...
    .
    See, that's how you lose credibility... by arguing against a point by citing ONE example. How 'bout the other times where the guy that won in the amateurs loses in the pros? (See: Cotto-Abdullaev, Cotto-Pinto)

    he he ... I agree that amateurs is totally different from the pros... There's no argument here in the first place... Viloria's 2 wins over Calderon in the amateurs has no meaning at all in the pros...
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    Happy to have enlightened you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Wow... didn't realize Ivan's 34 already. Maybe not old for heavyweights, but a little long in the tooth for the little guys. I hope Ivan squeezes in a couple more fights against top opposition before he decides to hang it up.
    Calderon is there for the taking. I think the flip can do it
    His lack of punching power is kind of an equalizer for opponents... but I think Ivan's still slick enough to outbox most potential opponents out there. I think a year or two more at most is what Ivan has left.
    I agree with Titofan that even at 34 Calderon is still more than capable than dealing most of the opposition around 105 & 108, apart from maybe Gonzalez... I think he needs to fight Viloria next after Mayol, then maybe Gonzalez, Garcia or Sithsamerchai. I'd then love to see him step up to 112 & take that 0 from Narvaez!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post

    Calderon is there for the taking. I think the flip can do it
    His lack of punching power is kind of an equalizer for opponents... but I think Ivan's still slick enough to outbox most potential opponents out there. I think a year or two more at most is what Ivan has left.
    I agree with Titofan that even at 34 Calderon is still more than capable than dealing most of the opposition around 105 & 108, apart from maybe Gonzalez... I think he needs to fight Viloria next after Mayol, then maybe Gonzalez, Garcia or Sithsamerchai. I'd then love to see him step up to 112 & take that 0 from Narvaez!
    i heard rumors that he's planning on moving up to 112 next year, to face Concepcion

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    Default Re: Another PR vs RP

    Quote Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Galaxy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post

    His lack of punching power is kind of an equalizer for opponents... but I think Ivan's still slick enough to outbox most potential opponents out there. I think a year or two more at most is what Ivan has left.
    I agree with Titofan that even at 34 Calderon is still more than capable than dealing most of the opposition around 105 & 108, apart from maybe Gonzalez... I think he needs to fight Viloria next after Mayol, then maybe Gonzalez, Garcia or Sithsamerchai. I'd then love to see him step up to 112 & take that 0 from Narvaez!
    i heard rumors that he's planning on moving up to 112 next year, to face Concepcion
    Luis Concepcion? The Panamainian would be a good 1st fight at 112 for Calderon, he blew away Arambulet & dominated Esquer...

    My ideal future for Calderon:

    School Viloria
    Go to war with Gonzalez
    Take Narvaez' 0
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