Thread: Shame Roach didnt fight as well as he talks !

I like Freddy I think he is a good trainer that really cares for his fighters. If I remember correctly he worked with the great Eddie Futch and helped Virgil Hill all the way to a title which has to count for something.

Freddie Roach is a mercenary with a Sob story !

How many of those fighters walked into the gym and then moved out !
It's just utter bollocks to believe that a trainer can change anything a fighter does in a few fights !

Manny Pacquio would be a great fighter any how ! He was born with greatness in him he makes a lot of mistakes still and yet get's through with guts and no little skill .
The trainer is a bit part player they have way to higher profile for my liking and it's gullible twats that believe Freddie Roach or any other trainer can suddenly instill in somebody something different .


A trainer cant put whatin what God left out and after 10 years of being a pro there's no way that a fighter or any other sportsmen can be made to change technique .

Mayweather I rate his son is an incredible boxer and clearly the best schooled fighter out there he's just short on fighting heart .

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by luvfightgame

Roach is one of the most level headed and reasonable trainers around. He's gotten a high profile from the last 2 of Manny's fights, but he's been highly regarded for several years now.

I have never seen him give bad advice in the corner, stop a fight way too soon or way too late. Overall, I really respect Roach.

i agree, i think it has a lot to do with the fact that he knows just how bad a fight can hurt someone, and the effects it can leave, there is no doubt that Roach has Parkinsons due to the way he would fight, and the fact that he didn't have someone like himself in his corner who cared enough to save him from himself, and avoid taking permanent damage, the way he stopped the Penalosa fight and the way he went about stopping it shows this clearly, he told Gerry hurt him this round or i'm stopping it the next round, Penalosa didn't come close to hurting him, he stopped it, Roach might talk crap sometimes, but he always gives a fighter his dues

I was very impressed with how he handled that stoppage.

Originally Posted by Big Dick Whittington

Freddie Roach is a mercenary with a Sob story !

How many of those fighters walked into the gym and then moved out !
It's just utter bollocks to believe that a trainer can change anything a fighter does in a few fights !

Manny Pacquio would be a great fighter any how ! He was born with greatness in him he makes a lot of mistakes still and yet get's through with guts and no little skill .
The trainer is a bit part player they have way to higher profile for my liking and it's gullible twats that believe Freddie Roach or any other trainer can suddenly instill in somebody something different .


A trainer cant put whatin what God left out and after 10 years of being a pro there's no way that a fighter or any other sportsmen can be made to change technique .

Mayweather I rate his son is an incredible boxer and clearly the best schooled fighter out there he's just short on fighting heart .

That's why all the professional coaches in the nba and nfl aren't worth a damn.

I agree with the fact that many fighters were already developed. But a great coach will get more out of the fighters.

Phil Jackson won championships with the same teams that barely made the playoffs. He's probably not good at developing a player from scratch, but he's the best at getting the most out of a team.

Look at Angelo Dundee. He didn't train Ali or SRL from scratch, he's just great at getting the extra "umph" out of them.