Thread: The Five All Time Worst Boxing Decisions

Originally Posted by CGM

Originally Posted by Britkid

Originally Posted by CGM

Ha ha, I checked your profile, I'm a lot older than you. I guess I'm not really interested in debating whether it was a terrible decision , or merely a poor one. Naturally I am probably somewhat biased by the fact that it was a Canadian that was robbed.

As a Brit, (as you may of guessed), I think we both can safely say Lewis was Jamaican, and our arguments are thus unbiased!

I was in the sports bar the size of a freaking barn that night, and it was packed to the rafters with guys that were pumped for the fight. There was a lot of unhappy people let me tell you.

I would agree, the same went for Britain, but anyone who anything about boxing, knew the victory over Briggs gave him lineage, thus he defended against Holyfield, in a fight many thought he won, and even in 1999 most sports fans were boxing smart, and knew the score, literally and figuratively.

Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Emmanuel Augustus was the loser in the biggest robbery i have ever seen. DOn't remember who he was fighting.

Courtney Burton?

Originally Posted by CFH

Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Emmanuel Augustus was the loser in the biggest robbery i have ever seen. DOn't remember who he was fighting.

Courtney Burton?

that's who quickly came to my mind

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by CFH

Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Emmanuel Augustus was the loser in the biggest robbery i have ever seen. DOn't remember who he was fighting.

Courtney Burton?

that's who quickly came to my mind

I also thought he beat Ward, but I wouldn't call that one a robbery.

Seems the list is never ending and always grows unfortunatly,a few that stickave Tiberi vs. James Toney....Omar Weis vs. Antonio Diaz.....Felix Sturm vs. ODH...Fres Oquendo vs. Chris Byrd...Guty Espadas vs. Eric Morales....Wayne McCullough vs. Jose L. Bueno/Victor Rabanales

I'm surprised that none of you mentioned Leonard-Hearns II. Leonard was repeatedly hurt and outboxed by Hearns and dropped him twice, yet it was declared a draw.

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by CFH

Originally Posted by boozeboxer

Emmanuel Augustus was the loser in the biggest robbery i have ever seen. DOn't remember who he was fighting.

Courtney Burton?

that's who quickly came to my mind

that's the one.

Originally Posted by CFH

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Originally Posted by CFH

Courtney Burton?

that's who quickly came to my mind

I also thought he beat Ward, but I wouldn't call that one a robbery.

na that was an all out war, i'd give it to either fighter

Abraham Vs Miranda I comes to mind as well

Originally Posted by Violent Demise

Hatton robbing Callazo should be included. As well as Marquez being robbed twice against Pacquaio

uLOL

and you had Marquez winning by 1 point right?

Originally Posted by SweetPea

There's a big difference between a robbery and a controversial decision.

Robberies occur when one fighter dominates another and doesn't get the decision. Robberies occur when there is no way you could make a logical argument for the other guy winning. Robberies are the worst boxing decisions.

Lewis-Holyfield I was an outright robbery and a much worse decision than fights like Mayweather-Castillo and Oscar-Pernell.

I agree with this anaylsis. I watched Lewis-Holyfield 1 just the other day and had it 118-111 Lewis. How that dumb broad ever scored it for Holyfield i'll never know.

Whenever I score fights I always note down clean rounds and close rounds while I go. Clean being rounds I would argue were definitively won by one fighter and close where I could see some kind of argument for either fighter. In the Lewis Holyfield fight I didnt score a single clean round for Holyfield and there were 5 close rounds. So by my book even if you give Holy the nod on every close one he'd still lose 7-5. 100% robbery.

Originally Posted by Master

I thought ODH just beat Pernell.

Yeh me too, had it even after 11

Numbers 1 & 2, I definitely agree with, but 3,4 & 5 just don't work because those are all close fights which I've heard people score to both fighters. I thought Mayweather beat Castillo by a round, that Oscar beat Trinidad by 2 & the Whitaker beat Oscar by 2, but none of that makes them robberies, it just makes them close fights. People throw the word robbery around far too much, I remember all kinds of nonsense like that on here after the Berto-Collazo fight. The Lewis-Holyfield first fight should undoubtedly be in there, as should Oscar-Sturm IMO. Can't think of another off-hand, but Emmanuel Augustus could have a Top 10 all on his own.

Originally Posted by JazMerkin

Numbers 1 & 2, I definitely agree with, but 3,4 & 5 just don't work because those are all close fights which I've heard people score to both fighters. I thought Mayweather beat Castillo by a round, that Oscar beat Trinidad by 2 & the Whitaker beat Oscar by 2, but none of that makes them robberies, it just makes them close fights. People throw the word robbery around far too much, I remember all kinds of nonsense like that on here after the Berto-Collazo fight. The Lewis-Holyfield first fight should undoubtedly be in there, as should Oscar-Sturm IMO. Can't think of another off-hand, but Emmanuel Augustus could have a Top 10 all on his own.

agreed 1 & 2 are valid and 3,4 and 5 are a bit silly.

I had all 3 of those fights scored to the eventual winner and again why i dont mind people refering to these close calls as incorrect i find it extremely harsh to refer to these as robberys.

If you wanna talk robberys talk lewis-holyfield 1, chris john getting the decision over marquez in indonesia, and as youve already mentioned the 3 115-113 scorecards for ODLH over sturm (ODLH winning wasnt what was fishy it was the 3 EXACT scores that was)

So far this year thankfully we`ve been treated to some spectacular knockouts in the big fights by the likes of pacquiao, mosley, dunne, froch etc and the only questionable decision i can think of from the top of my head was berto getting the win over collazo.

lets hope this trend continues throughout 2009

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

If you wanna talk robberys talk lewis-holyfield 1, chris john getting the decision over marquez in indonesia, and as youve already mentioned the 3 115-113 scorecards for ODLH over sturm (ODLH winning wasnt what was fishy it was the 3 EXACT scores that was)

Might have to watch that one, not seen that Oscar fight. What youre saying about the scorecards is what i thought about the Dawson-Johnson fight all being 116-112 Dawson, that stunk bigtime. All exactly the same very wrong score, whats that about?

Btw im not saying it was one of the BIGGEST robberies ever in terms of a declared winner but I thought it was in scoring terms. By my book youd have to score every single close round to Dawson to get that score (Johnson clearly without a doubt won 4 rounds but there were 5 close rounds). All 3 judges scoring every close round to Dawson, thats 3 lots of 5 close rounds going 15-0 to Dawson. My score was actually 116-112 Johnson fwiw.

I just watched number 5 on that list, Mayweather v Castillo.

I scored it a 113-113 draw (6-6 with 1pt deduction for each fighter). So to put it on the top robberies of all time is laughable frankly.

For me it was pretty much a tale of 2 halves, with Mayweather owning the 1st half and Castillo owning the 2nd. I had it 4-3 to Castillo in clean rounds and I scored the 5 close rounds 3-2 to Mayweather.

Having said that the actual point scores were way out of order (115-111 x2 and 116-111). So the scores were awful but real close fight. Kind of reminiscent of the scoring I mentioned above in the Dawson v Johnson match, every close round got scored for Mayweather across the board 15-0.