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Old 05-29-2009, 04:05 AM
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I recently messed up my right hand when I was shadowboxing and I accidentally hit the wall, causing 2 of my fingers to become badly jammed. However, this little misfortune enabled me to work on using just my left hand when hitting the heavy bag .

I realize that I have a killer Left Body Hook and Left Hook in Inside fighting range, and I like the double Left Body Hook, Left Head Hook combination. However, I would like to hear suggestions on how to set this combination up, or how you guys like to set this combo up.

The way I've been experimenting with it is by throwing flicker jabs to blind the opponent, and then move in with a hard Jab (my body weight is shifted to the right), shift to my left and sink down for the Left Body Hook, and then throw the Left Head Hook. Three punches with one arm. But I wouldn't mind hearing other suggestions or thoughts
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That sucks, next time be sure to give yourself plenty of space to step around when you shadowbox, the ring isn't too small the last time I checked.

Anyways you could use feints to set up your left hook, and depending on how your opponent reacts to the first hook you can double it up. Try feinting the right while stepping forward (maybe even tap on their gloves with your right), and then you're set to throw the left hook. If the right hand makes them bring their guard up, then hook to their body. Just see what's open, hook to body, to the head, outside of his right arm, or in between their arms. One punch can create an opening for the next. Sometimes you don't want to just throw your punches in a 1-2 rhythm, a slight pause after a punch, or little feint can make landing the next punch easier.

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The way I've been experimenting with it is by throwing flicker jabs to blind the opponent, and then move in with a hard Jab (my body weight is shifted to the right), shift to my left and sink down for the Left Body Hook, and then throw the Left Head Hook. Three punches with one arm. But I wouldn't mind hearing other suggestions or thoughts
That could work. You could also get your opponent into the habit of catching your jabs, and then step forward with the jab (or feinting it), and shoot a left hook in behind their catcher's mitt.

If they're covering up while on the ropes trying to do a rope-a-dope, you could throw fast hook hook on their arms (just to keep them in that defensive mode), followed by a step to the left so that you can shoot a left hook around their guard. From there it's 'a la carte', just line yourself up to the openings and fire away.
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Thanks for the advice . I figured that there was probably only three ways of setting it up, moving in with a hard Jab and double hooking, moving in with a Cross feint and double hooking, or just moving inside and double hooking.


I like the idea of throwing a short Cross feint and then double hooking, however it doesn't seem to have the same power as a move in Jab, Left Body Hook, Left Head. The way I throw my Jab when moving in, I'm shifting all my weight from my left side to my right, because I'm twisting my hips with the Jab to the right, and shifting back to the left for the Left Body Hook. I don't think a Cross feint and a Left Body Hook would be as powerful, not the same amount of weight shift with the punch.
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No problem.

The way I see it, you already shift most of your weight onto your left side when you throw the cross. On top of that you have some more torque this way when you snap your waist, shifting the weight back to your right side when hooking. You can get a good idea of this by throwing a cross-hook-cross as you would shift your weight from side to side for each punch. It just seems more natural than shifting your weight into your jab.

You could also slip inside of their jab. The body motion of slipping to the inside of a jab is similar to throwing the cross sets you up to throw a hard left hook, since your weight is rests on your left leg after the slip.
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or......

counter with the double L hook.

Bait them in and try to get them to lead with the straight right. Slip or duck and roll to the outside and pound him under that extended arm and then bring it upstairs. This can really be effective since his balance is compromied and his forward movement adds force to the body shot.
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or......

counter with the double L hook.

Bait them in and try to get them to lead with the straight right. Slip or duck and roll to the outside and pound him under that extended arm and then bring it upstairs. This can really be effective since his balance is compromied and his forward movement adds force to the body shot.
Very good point, it is smart to bait your opponent into throwing the right hand. However, it has to be perfectly timed to make it work. I'd rather play it safe and trying to throw the double Left Hook as a move in combination as opposed to a counter combination, like waiting to counter the right hand. But good advice and input though.
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You did ask other ways. I think to slip their jab over your left shoulderhave a low jab of your own into their midriff the as they rect to being hit low you go high hook low hook and set your right hand up while your there.Thats a three handed left set up while your moving forwards in short stages withthe shots.then your hips are open and your set and coiled to finish them.

Or go the other side, at distance. Leave an opening high or low on that same side, Go around his already expended right hand. Dont just hook low, hook high; Try it in reverse and finish on three, if he keeps reacting to where he just got hit why stop at a double?

Hooks are great when you can catch them flat footed with both shoulders over the top of both their own feet and you get them toppled through their centre line. Pac dropped Marquez that way, I'll find it..


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hook or cross thats the position to catch their feet in for best outcome Juan is actually past the position and in worse trouble with his body over his front leg ,he was going to get caught anyway by the look of it; leaning as he did and getting caught square by Mannys hook or he probably would of got caught heading back getting into balance anyway,with Manny doubling up.
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You could also get your opponent into the habit of catching your jabs, and then step forward with the jab (or feinting it), and shoot a left hook in behind their catcher's mitt.
ARGH!!!! I HATE when people do that... and I fall for it every time
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Hooks are great when you can catch them flat footed with both shoulders over the top of both their own feet and you get them toppled through their centre line. Pac dropped Marquez that way, I'll find it..


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hook or cross thats the position to catch their feet in for best outcome Juan is actually past the position and in worse trouble with his body over his front leg ,he was going to get caught anyway by the look of it; leaning as he did and getting caught square by Mannys hook or he probably would of got caught heading back getting into balance anyway,with Manny doubling up.
I think that counters are most effective when your opponent is committing to their punches, and when they have little time to see the punch that's coming.

I think that Manny's jab made it easier to land that cross, since Marquez had less time to react to the cross, and also because Marquez was set on countering the jab with a left hook to the body. Marquez was also off balance and in a vulnerable position as you've seen it.

My coach once said that sometimes you'll want to miss with a punch so that your your arm blocks your opponent's view of the punch that you'll throw behind it. It's a dangerous tactic, and you probably have to have a good idea about your opponent before you attempt it. I guess that it's done best when they slip to outside of your arm, and either they don't counter, or you catch them before they finish their punch.

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You could also get your opponent into the habit of catching your jabs, and then step forward with the jab (or feinting it), and shoot a left hook in behind their catcher's mitt.
ARGH!!!! I HATE when people do that... and I fall for it every time
Your left hook has to come quick behind the jab/feint, and you have to be close enough to land it effectively. It's harder to do if they have quick feet and/or have good head movement.
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Two rounds ahead 10/8 on one pro mistake, its worth studying.
I liked how Marquez had it in him to check the right hand with his left right on the end of it ,but it got him into worse trouble..
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Everyone already stated pretty much everything i could've added...

I will just add - KEEP YOUR RIGHT HAND UP!!!
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To set the double left hook, you must throw a left jab while your right hand is blocking your face. As you throw the jab you have to lean into the right side of his body. Use maximum Leverage for more Power as your throwing the left hook.

Tip; Don't throw the jab then go down. Throw the jab AS your moving down.
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