Thread: Nonito Donaire Jr. is now Ring Mag's #7 P4P Boxer

Nonito Donaire Jr. is now Ring Mag's #7 P4P Boxer... Cotto was demoted 2 places down from #7 to #9 (guess Ring Mag's editors didn't like Cotto's performance against Clottey)...

Here's the complete P4P Top Ten list:

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1. Manny Pacquiao
Country: Philippines
Record: 49-3-2 (37 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #1 | Last Week: #1 | Weeks On List: 289
Titles: The Ring
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2. Juan Manuel Marquez
Country: Mexico
Record: 50-4-1 (37 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #2 | Last Week: #2 | Weeks On List: 118
Titles: WBA, WBO, The Ring
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3. Bernard Hopkins
Country: USA (Philadelphia, Pa.)
Record: 49-5-1 (32 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #3 | Last Week: #3 | Weeks On List: 158
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4. Shane Mosley
Country: USA (Las Vegas, Nevada)
Record: 46-5-0 (39 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #4 | Last Week: #4 | Weeks On List: 21
Titles: WBA
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5. Israel Vazquez
Country: Mexico
Record: 43-4-0 (31 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #5 | Last Week: #5 | Weeks On List: 98
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6. Rafael Marquez
Country: Mexico
Record: 38-5-0 (34 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #6 | Last Week: #6 | Weeks On List: 56
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7. Nonito Donaire
Country: Philippines
Record: 21-1-0 (14 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #7 | Last Week: #8 | Weeks On List: 7
Titles: IBF
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8. Vic Darchinyan
Country: Armenia
Record: 32-1-1 (26 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #8 | Last Week: #9 | Weeks On List: 19
Titles: WBA, WBC, IBF
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9. Miguel Cotto
Country: Puerto Rico
Record: 34-1-0 (27 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #9 | Last Week: #7 | Weeks On List: 7
Titles: WBO
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10. Celestino Caballero
Country: Panama
Record: 32-2-0 (22 KOs)
Ranking: This Week: #10 | Last Week: #10 | Weeks On List: 21
Titles: WBA, IBF

Why wouldn't he be, IMO he is one of the best fighters in world, and he has it all, great boxing skills, power, and speed. He is truly a great fighter. I don't see why Vic is ahead of Cotto though he is nothing special IMO.

Actually both Cotto and Calderon got demoted. Seems a bit harsh imo.

Cotto demonstrated what a true champion should be doing with the unfortunate nasty cut. HBO commentators even said that was the greatest Cotto win and I agree. I dont understand why he went down to #9.

Originally Posted by Taeth

Why wouldn't he be, IMO he is one of the best fighters in world, and he has it all, great boxing skills, power, and speed. He is truly a great fighter. I don't see why Vic is ahead of Cotto though he is nothing special IMO.

You're totally right about that... Donaire is a complete package, a bit of everything... boxing skills, power and speed...

After his next dominating and impressive win, he will probably climb up cracking the Top 5 P4P list...
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Originally Posted by Quinito

Actually both Cotto and Calderon got demoted. Seems a bit harsh imo.

Calderon deserved his demotion

I gotta say at first I didnt' like Nonito because after his first lost he turned his back at the sport. I remember me and mick joke about trading Nonito and Israel country sides, since I was and still am a big fan of Izzy and mick i guess was impress with nonito. Nonito has regain his desire to fight and after he took his time away from the sport he came back with fire. I am completely impress with him now and truly believe he can dominate for a long time. IMO Nonito is the best boxer from the philippines and Pac is the best fighter. Nonito is highly skilled and unlike other masterful boxer Nonito ends fight with a bang. His exciting and he demonstrate the sweet science.

Im glad to see him climb up the p4p rankings and get the credits he deserve.

I still don't feel Donaire deserves to be top 10 P4P at the moment.

Cotto should be ranked above him clearly imo.

Saturday’s welterweight matchup between top contenders Miguel Cotto and Joshua Clottey was an intense clash of styles that entertained a packed Madison Square Garden arena and millions of fans watching the live HBO and international broadcasts.

Cotto’s hard-fought victory over Clottey was bloody, gutsy, dramatic and ultimately controversial.

However, the win was far from decisive, a fact that has led THE RING editorial board to lower Cotto’s placement in the magazine’s pound-for-pound ratings.

Most boxing writers have considered Cotto to be among the sport’s elite fighters ever since his close decision victory over Shane Mosley in November of 2007.

There was a brief period when he was off THE RING’s pound-for-pound list following his stoppage loss to Antonio Margarito last July. However, after a strong showing against Michael Jennings in February and the revelation that Margarito attempted to load his gloves before his fight with Shane Mosley casting a cloud of suspicion over the Mexican’s victory over Cotto, the Puerto Rican star was reinstated at No. 7 on THE RING’s pound-for-pound list.

However, it’s one thing to struggle with a future hall of famer like Mosley, or to be knocked out by a relentless iron-chinned mauler who may have had loaded gloves; but it’s quite another to go life and death with Clottey.

Clottey is by no means a pushover. The Bronx-based Ghanaian has earned his place among the top welterweight contenders. However, Clottey usually does just enough to win or lose his pivotal fights, which prevents him from being perceived as a “world-beater” by most fans and boxing writers.

He was thoroughly outworked by Margarito after he outclassed the Mexican over the first four rounds. He struggled in the late rounds against fringe contender Richar Gutierrez. Even his victory over former champ Zab Judah, which earned him a shot at Cotto, was a close, technical split decision.

The bottom line is that Clottey is a solid-but-unspectacular fighter, the kind of opponent an elite fighter should decisively beat.

Thus, Cotto fell from No. 7 to No. 9 in THE RING pound-for-pound ratings. His demotion advanced Nonito Donaire and Vic Darchinyan one slot each to No. 7 and No. 8, respectively.

“While Cotto showed a lot of heart in overcoming a serious cut and a strong bid by Clottey, after a brief discussion THE RING editorial board unanimously agreed he did not look like the seventh best fighter in the world and that an adjustment was in order,” RING editor Nigel Collins said.

Cotto fans need not work themselves into an uproar if they happen to disagree with Collins and company.

The Puerto Rican star may get the opportunity to advance to the top of THE RING’s pound-for-pound ratings and every other boxing publication and fight writer’s pound-for-pound list.

Bob Arum, promoter of both Cotto and pound-for-pound king Manny Pacquiao, would like to match his two top fighters in November of this year.

Freddie Roach, Pacquiao’s trainer and friend, has stated on record that he is open to a Cotto fight as long as the welterweight titleholder is willing to come down a few pounds, perhaps to a 143- or 144-pound catch weight.

“Before he fought Clottey, we talked to Miguel about the possibility of fighting Pacquiao and he was open to fighting at a catchweight,” said Lee Samuels, Top Rank’s publicist.

“We still have to get an OK from Manny and Freddie, but that’s the fight Bob is hoping to get done. We’ve already reserved a date with the MGM Grand (resort and casino in Las Vegas) for November 14.”

Pacquiao, who was in New York City this past weekend to collect his 2008 Fighter of the Year award from the Boxing Writers Association of America, was ringside for Cotto-Clottey. The Filipino icon was impressed with Cotto’s performance, according to Samuels.

“Bob sat next to Manny during the fight and Manny told him ‘I know how difficult it is to fight with a bad cut like that. I fought with a cut like that in my first fight with Erik Morales and I know it’s very hard to compete like that,’” Samuels said.

Pacquiao has other options for his November opponent, such as current WBA welterweight titleholder Shane Mosley, but Samuels says Cotto is the frontrunner.

“Golden Boy Promotions CEO) Richard Schaefer is actively pursuing Pacquiao for Mosley, and it isn’t like that fight is out of the question; we work well with Golden Boy Promotions, but Bob sees Cotto as the bigger draw for Pacquiao.”

Samuels said Mosley, who has had a tough time finding a worthy opponent since destroying Margarito in January, might want to consider Clottey.

“Not long after Saturday’s fight, Clottey told us he would like to fight Andre Berto or Shane Mosley,” .Samuels said. “He’s even willing to fight Paul Williams at 147 pounds, so those are the fights we’ll try to make for him.”

Speaking of Clottey, did his terrific effort against Cotto advance his placement in THE RING’s welterweight rankings...

Originally Posted by Pugilistic

I still don't feel Donaire deserves to be top 10 P4P at the moment.

Cotto should be ranked above him clearly imo.

Agreed. While Donaire is a great fighter, Cotto's resume is much better with wins over Mosley, Clottey, Judah, and now a fight that he lost whether or not his opponent had illegal hand wraps in that fight. Cotto fights the best of the best at a very hot division right now.

Originally Posted by Taeth

Why wouldn't he be, IMO he is one of the best fighters in world, and he has it all, great boxing skills, power, and speed. He is truly a great fighter. I don't see why Vic is ahead of Cotto though he is nothing special IMO.

What? Totally disagree. He beats everyone. He was the underdog in his last two fights and beat down p4p Mijares and pummelled Arce into a pulp. During that time span, who has Donaire beat? If he beats King Kong, he should jump above Donaire.

Forget about Vic's accomplishments. The fact that matters most is DONAIRE BEATS DARCHINYAN ANYTIME IN ANY WEIGHT CLASS.

Originally Posted by Quinito

Forget about Vic's accomplishments. The fact that matters most is DONAIRE BEATS DARCHINYAN ANYTIME IN ANY WEIGHT CLASS.

If they rematch in the future yeah but it hasn't happened yet so Vic should be ranked higher than Donaire currently.

Actually, Darchinyan needs to defeat Donaire in rematch to be ahead of him. I bet the Ring sees it that way too.

Originally Posted by Quinito

Actually, Darchinyan needs to defeat Donaire in rematch to be ahead of him. I bet the Ring sees it that way too.

Why? Vic has gone on to achieve more. Don't get me wrong I'm a big Donaire fan, but I don't think his achievements since his win over Vic warrant a higher place in the P4P, when Vic moved up in weight and unified the belts with impressive victories. Your logic, once again, suggests that we should discount Pacquiao's achievements since his losses, and that Medgoen Singsurat should be ranked above him until Pac avenges the loss.