Thread: Why people won't hate on Miguel Cotto for fighting Manny Pacquiao

Despite the size disparity people will be perfectly fine with this fight because
1) Pacquiao fans have made people hate him.
2) Cotto isn't Mayweather.

I love the hypocritical nature of boxing.

Originally Posted by Taeth

Despite the size disparity people will be perfectly fine with this fight because
1) Pacquiao fans have made people hate him.
2) Cotto isn't Mayweather.

I love the hypocritical nature of boxing.

Who is hating on Mayweather for taking a hypothetical fight with Pacquiao? It's the most in demand fight in the entire sport.

Have you heard anyone talking about the Mayweather-Marquez fight? All they talk about is why isn't he fighting Pacquiao who isn't he facing Mosley or Cotto.

Well Cotto has Mosley, Berto, P. Williams, maybe even Mayweather, but he accepts a fight from the smaller Pacquiao.

The point I am making is that in both cases the Mayweather-Marquez and the Pacquiao-Cotto fight, the best fighter will win no because of size, but because of skill and natural ability.

This confused me at first, I am tired as hell.

Ok looking at Taeth's last post, people hold Mayweather to a higher standard. Some people will say this is wrong, I don't think it is, he's thought of by most, or at least was, as the best fighter in the world. Cotto isn't. I hold Manny to a higher standard than Cotto too as do most people.

Second, in this case the little guy is actually favored, Floyd is seen as having a more winnable fight than Cotto. People taking perceived harder fights are given more credit. Boxing fans tend not to believe somebody can do something (for example, fight at a higher weight class, in JMM's case a much higher weight class) until they've done it, JMM hasn't, Manny has. There are other reasons too, one being JMM is older than Manny, had some rough moments in his last fight, etc.

Originally Posted by Taeth

Despite the size disparity people will be perfectly fine with this fight because
1) Pacquiao fans have made people hate him.
2) Cotto isn't Mayweather.

I love the hypocritical nature of boxing.

1. No, it's not people hating PAC because of his fans (actually PAC fans are people who loves to have fun all the time), IMO it's more of people believing PAC has a chance to defeat Cotto even at 147...

2. Very true... Cotto isn't PBF just like PBF isn't Cotto...

Now, let's try to switch opponents and let's see what happens...

Cotto fighting JMM, do you hate Cotto for taking on the smaller JMM?

PBF fighting PAC at 143, do you hate PBF for letting PAC climb to 143 instead of fighting PAC at 140?

This could be some fun...
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no people have a problem with him going up and down the weights, wanting catch-weights, and refusing to move up and fight someone below a weight he has previously fought at.

Pacster vs Floyd and Pacster vs Cotto are BOTH great fights.

I doubt people will hate on Cotto considering Pacster will be favourite to beat him, whereas Floyd will be favourite to beat Pacster.

Pacster KO 6 Cotto. Fact.
Pacster SD Floyd. Fact.

Originally Posted by Fenster

Pacster vs Floyd and Pacster vs Cotto are BOTH great fights.

I doubt people will hate on Cotto considering Pacster will be favourite to beat him, whereas Floyd will be favourite to beat Pacster.

Pacster KO 6 Cotto. Fact.
Pacster SD Floyd. Fact.

PBF TKOs Pac FACT
Cotto TKOs Pac FACT

Originally Posted by BIG H

Originally Posted by Fenster

Pacster vs Floyd and Pacster vs Cotto are BOTH great fights.

I doubt people will hate on Cotto considering Pacster will be favourite to beat him, whereas Floyd will be favourite to beat Pacster.

Pacster KO 6 Cotto. Fact.
Pacster SD Floyd. Fact.

PBF TKOs Pac FACT
Cotto TKOs Pac FACT

I meant Floyd SD Pacster. Fact.

Pacster definitely KO's Cotto. You see Cotto the weekend? He will look like he's fighting in treacle compared to Pacster. Pacster will beat him to a pulp inside 6. Fact.

People won't hate on Cotto because he's consistently taken on dangerous opponents who other people haven't wanted to fight, and therefore he deserves the benefit of the doubt on his choice of opponents.

Well Cotto has Mosley, Berto, P. Williams, maybe even Mayweather, but he accepts a fight from the smaller Pacquiao.

He's already fought Mosley, and I'd challenge anyone to prove that Andre Berto is more dangerous than Pacquiao. Williams is a middleweight.

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by BIG H

Originally Posted by Fenster

Pacster vs Floyd and Pacster vs Cotto are BOTH great fights.

I doubt people will hate on Cotto considering Pacster will be favourite to beat him, whereas Floyd will be favourite to beat Pacster.

Pacster KO 6 Cotto. Fact.
Pacster SD Floyd. Fact.

PBF TKOs Pac FACT
Cotto TKOs Pac FACT

I meant Floyd SD Pacster. Fact.

Pacster definitely KO's Cotto. You see Cotto the weekend? He will look like he's fighting in treacle compared to Pacster. Pacster will beat him to a pulp inside 6. Fact.

I'd agree with the Floyd win...

As for Cotto, I'd alsoi have to agree, he's shown nothing to suggest he could catch Pacquaio

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by BIG H

Originally Posted by Fenster

Pacster vs Floyd and Pacster vs Cotto are BOTH great fights.

I doubt people will hate on Cotto considering Pacster will be favourite to beat him, whereas Floyd will be favourite to beat Pacster.

Pacster KO 6 Cotto. Fact.
Pacster SD Floyd. Fact.

PBF TKOs Pac FACT
Cotto TKOs Pac FACT

I meant Floyd SD Pacster. Fact.

Pacster definitely KO's Cotto. You see Cotto the weekend? He will look like he's fighting in treacle compared to Pacster. Pacster will beat him to a pulp inside 6. Fact.

I think that Cotto has, first, to find a better trainer than his nutritionist.

i think the point is as well that cotto has fought, mosley and margarito and mayweather has refused to take a fight with all 3 of those guys, also cotto has fought a couple of boxer who beat him in the ama, people value it when a fighter willing takes tough fights...............also it was pac-man who told arum he wants cotto and cottos said yes......if you take tough fights, lay it all on the line, even after loseing you take a tough hard to look good against man like clottey whille also being a well manner alround goodguy its pretty hard to dislike a fighter like that................mayweathers a rude, arrogant, cocky flashy.....and full of excusesing as to not fight cotto, mosley, margarito, and pac-man....its very easy not to like him

Originally Posted by Taeth

Have you heard anyone talking about the Mayweather-Marquez fight? All they talk about is why isn't he fighting Pacquiao who isn't he facing Mosley or Cotto.

Well Cotto has Mosley, Berto, P. Williams, maybe even Mayweather, but he accepts a fight from the smaller Pacquiao.

The point I am making is that in both cases the Mayweather-Marquez and the Pacquiao-Cotto fight, the best fighter will win no because of size, but because of skill and natural ability.

Cotto has already fought Mosely, Margarito, and Clottey; three of the top five fighters in his division. No one will trash him for fighting Pacquiao because he's fought the rest of the division already. Mayweather hasn't fought even one of the top five welterweights.

Other than Freddie Roach who questioned why PBF didn't wait until after the Pacquiao fight to choose his next fight, no one talks about why Mayweather isn't fighting Pacquiao now, only why Mayweather won't fight a top five welterweight.

Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

no people have a problem with him going up and down the weights, wanting catch-weights, and refusing to move up and fight someone below a weight he has previously fought at.

To be fair against Pacman I don't think he's ever fought at a catch weight in any of his fights yet. And I believe it should be that way. And some may say what about the Oscar fight? As I've stated before it's unreasonable to have the guy jump 3 weight classes to fight Oscar from 135 so they met at the 147 limit.