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07-16-2009, 06:32 AM
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Direll aint losing. Yea, I said AINT |
07-16-2009, 10:33 AM
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Dirrell seems a bit of a character and I hope he does well, would like to see him shut up Froch but It's a hard one to call as he's sp green. Same goes to Ward, who I think is a little out of his depth after watching a bit of him on youtube yesterday, though I haven't seen his fight with Miranda to be sure.
There's something naturally passive about Taylor and Kessler, so find it hard to see either go through undefeated, but expect Kess to make 2 from three to make the semis.
I'll eat my own dick if that oaf Froch goes 5-0. |
07-16-2009, 10:38 AM
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Like it mentions in the article, it's pretty easy for them to endorse it as their top 3 are actually in it. Sulaiman is still a tosser. |
07-16-2009, 11:32 AM
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I would seriously love to see Froch win this, but, he aint goin to, you can';t be that open defensively and beat all of these guys, no way..
I'm gonna say if Taylor can deal with stamina issues and get someone onboard to help him deal with it then I say he has better boxing ability to win than all of these guys. More naturally talented IMO. If this doesn't happen then I can see Andre Ward Having too much for all of them, I like the look of him, especially after schooling Miranda, he looks to be the kind of guy who'll get better and better. Kessler aint all that great IMO and will be beaten by the quicker slicker taylor or Ward and Abraham only fight in little spurts. Dirrell looks a bit too vulnerable for me, I say Froch knocks him out inside 8. |
07-16-2009, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Fenster  Check the betting guys 
Froch is favourite to win this tournament with British bookies William Hill
Carl Froch 7/4
Mikkel Kessler 11/4
Arthur Abraham 7/2
Jermain Taylor 5/1
Andre Ward 10/1
Andre Dirrell 14/1
Whether he wins or not (huge not IMO) that is a joke. | But if Froch wasn't british and Hills weren't taking tons of money off his fans and could give him a rwealistic price what would his odds be? I'd guess somewhere in between Abraham and Taylor. |
07-16-2009, 10:35 PM
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I think Taylor has a chance against Abraham but not against anybody who can fight at a decent pace for ten rounds. In two fights now he's had Pavlik and Froch down early and didn't even try to finish them. He starts to slow down after a few rounds and really struggles to finish twelve. I think this problem will only get worse. Maybe Abraham is slow-paced enough for Taylor to outbox him but Abraham is a pretty decent boxer too. I'm going for Abraham in that fight. |
07-16-2009, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Bilbo Well as everybody knows my choice is Carl 'The Cobra' Froch to bully his way through this pack he's simply too strong for any mortal man to cope with for 12 rounds.
The dark horse is Jermain Taylor who will start by comprehensively outboxing and beating Arthur Abraham imo.
That's going to be the big shock of the first round, Taylor will dominate Abraham.
Froch will emerge in a tough fight against Direll and I expect the Kessler Ward fight to be a close affair with Kesller eding.
Kessler will be the big disappointment of the tournament though and is getting knocked out by Arthur Abraham in the shock of the second rounds.
For those that want to make some money the first round results are.
Taylor beats Abraham 115-111, 117-110, 115-111
Kessler beats Ward 114-113, 117-112 115-113
Froch beats Dirrell by 10th round stoppage.
Round two Abraham Ko's Kessler in round 8
Froch beats Ward on a SD
Taylor beats Dirrell
Then the tournament fragments and doesnt finish as planned but Froch knocks out Taylor in an unofficial final with Abraham leaving to fight Pavlik and Ward pursuing Roy Jones Jr |
Kessler getting knocked out by Arthur Abraham  ?, haha, stop drinking mate 
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07-16-2009, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jangeorg Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo Well as everybody knows my choice is Carl 'The Cobra' Froch to bully his way through this pack he's simply too strong for any mortal man to cope with for 12 rounds.
The dark horse is Jermain Taylor who will start by comprehensively outboxing and beating Arthur Abraham imo.
That's going to be the big shock of the first round, Taylor will dominate Abraham.
Froch will emerge in a tough fight against Direll and I expect the Kessler Ward fight to be a close affair with Kesller eding.
Kessler will be the big disappointment of the tournament though and is getting knocked out by Arthur Abraham in the shock of the second rounds.
For those that want to make some money the first round results are.
Taylor beats Abraham 115-111, 117-110, 115-111
Kessler beats Ward 114-113, 117-112 115-113
Froch beats Dirrell by 10th round stoppage.
Round two Abraham Ko's Kessler in round 8
Froch beats Ward on a SD
Taylor beats Dirrell
Then the tournament fragments and doesnt finish as planned but Froch knocks out Taylor in an unofficial final with Abraham leaving to fight Pavlik and Ward pursuing Roy Jones Jr |
Kessler getting knocked out by Arthur Abraham ?, haha, stop drinking mate |
You'll see...................remember though Taylor beats Abraham first
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07-17-2009, 06:42 AM
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Originally Posted by markb018 I am going for Andre Ward to take this, love what I saw with Miranda and I have a feeling he will fight Kessler in the bay area, which means I will be there  |
Andre Ward ?
He has been knock down / shaken against Journeymen and Club Fighters ..
Against Darnell Boone he came back after knock down, but in the Kost fight, he swam round in the ring and was very shaken, Kessler will KO him, he has a glass jaw, no way Kessler can lose to Ward |
07-17-2009, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Fenster Check the betting guys
Froch is favourite to win this tournament with British bookies William Hill
Carl Froch 7/4
Mikkel Kessler 11/4
Arthur Abraham 7/2
Jermain Taylor 5/1
Andre Ward 10/1
Andre Dirrell 14/1
Whether he wins or not (huge not IMO) that is a joke. | But if Froch wasn't british and Hills weren't taking tons of money off his fans and could give him a rwealistic price what would his odds be? I'd guess somewhere in between Abraham and Taylor. | I doubt they will take a ton of money on this, but yes Froch has been installed as the favourite because he's the Brit and naturally will attract the mug patriotic money, plus has drawn the outsider in the first bout.
I'd say he should have been third favourite looking at the draw.
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07-17-2009, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by markb018 I am going for Andre Ward to take this, love what I saw with Miranda and I have a feeling he will fight Kessler in the bay area, which means I will be there |
Andre Ward ?
He has been knock down / shaken against Journeymen and Club Fighters ..
Against Darnell Boone he came back after knock down, but in the Kost fight, he swam round in the ring and was very shaken, Kessler will KO him, he has a glass jaw, no way Kessler can lose to Ward | Liked what I saw against Miranda, thought he boxed brilliantly and was tagged cleanly a few times. All these guys know this is there chance, just think Ward wants it a bit more and has the talent to back it up. One could also argue that he is fighting Kessler at the perfect time, his recent inactivity and will probably be in Ward's backyard.
If he does win, I can say I knew it from the start and do a little gloating |
07-17-2009, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by markb018 Quote:
Originally Posted by jangeorg Quote:
Originally Posted by markb018 I am going for Andre Ward to take this, love what I saw with Miranda and I have a feeling he will fight Kessler in the bay area, which means I will be there |
Andre Ward ?
He has been knock down / shaken against Journeymen and Club Fighters ..
Against Darnell Boone he came back after knock down, but in the Kost fight, he swam round in the ring and was very shaken, Kessler will KO him, he has a glass jaw, no way Kessler can lose to Ward | Liked what I saw against Miranda, thought he boxed brilliantly and was tagged cleanly a few times. All these guys know this is there chance, just think Ward wants it a bit more and has the talent to back it up. One could also argue that he is fighting Kessler at the perfect time, his recent inactivity and will probably be in Ward's backyard.
If he does win, I can say I knew it from the start and do a little gloating |
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