I can't believe people are taking Bilbo seriously here. If only he was around to see it.

Originally Posted by Master

Defeated by Vernon Forrest and Winky takes some of the shine, and I felt he lost the second fight to ODH, but if he managed himself like Mayweather then he would have stayed at lightweight and never lost.

Very good point

Originally Posted by CFH

I can't believe people are taking Bilbo seriously here. If only he was around to see it.

His mum will tell him all about it while she holds the vomit bucket under him while he exercises on his rower.


Shane Mosley is THEEEEEEEEEEEEE greatest....period. His losses don't count

Originally Posted by GAME

I think the point of this thread is to defend Pacquiaos actions in some way. To say that if a fighter boiled down in weight and is sucessful then he must be great .. . . . . cuz Oscar , Hatton , Cotto are all weight drained and stand no chance pre fight whereas Shane has proven he can still win

The topic has come from a pacfan so in a round about way they are trying to make a point of defending Pacs actions about catchweights.

Exactly... his moot point is that because shane managed to get back to 147 that means that he can go further indefinetly and that because shane managed to get down to 147 this theory can somehow also be applied to other fighters... no matter how much their physical situation differs from Shane's the same theory can be applied...

i remember when i made a thread sayin is rjj the greastest ever, what i meant to say was, is roy jones one of the greatest ever. shane mosley is definately not the greatest, although on his lightweight form he definately fought like he could of been.for me as far as lightweights go hes in my top five, of all time tho top 30 maybe top 20

Shane Mosley is a great fighter, i love watching him fight. The greatest ever? No. He has had to many ordinary performances to rank him number 1 of the past 10 years let alone the greatest ever. He needs to fight Cotto again and settle the score. Mayweather will fight Pacquaio, nothing is surer so there is no excuse for Mosley V Cotto 2 happening this year. Mosley is an ATG no doubt about it, but losing to Forrest and Winky twice each has tarnished things a bit. His greatest performance was DLH 1 where he was at his peak and beat DLH at his peak. He lost the second fight.

Originally Posted by Bilbo's Mom

Sugar Shane has done what is apparently impossible to do. He moved down from 154 lbs to 147 lbs, late in his career, after more than 40 fights and well into his thirties and won the linear title.

As we know from recent debates on this forum as well as basic understanding of human biology it is impossible for a fighter to give up even a couple of pounds and be able to compete with a smaller guy on a fair footing and yet Sugar Shane has defied these odds and moved down AN ENTIRE WEIGHT CLASS and became the champ.

Surely he must be the best fighter of all time?

Discuss

Are you serious? Shane is good but greatest of all time? This post is the greatest waist of all time!

Mosely makes my top 1000, just behind Martin Rogan. He was 1 second away from humiliation against Mayorga

Originally Posted by richard (mossley)

Mosely makes my top 1000, just behind Martin Rogan. He was 1 second away from humiliation against Mayorga

Yes, because the way people view him should be based upon one fight.

Originally Posted by Bilbo's Mom

Sugar Shane has done what is apparently impossible to do. He moved down from 154 lbs to 147 lbs, late in his career, after more than 40 fights and well into his thirties and won the linear title.

As we know from recent debates on this forum as well as basic understanding of human biology it is impossible for a fighter to give up even a couple of pounds and be able to compete with a smaller guy on a fair footing and yet Sugar Shane has defied these odds and moved down AN ENTIRE WEIGHT CLASS and became the champ.

Surely he must be the best fighter of all time?

Discuss

Great boxer? Yes.
Do i think its amazing what hes done? yes
Greatest boxer of all time? Not even close

His credentials dont stack up anywhere near that kinda talk. I love him as a fighter and hes a class act though.

Mate I haven't seen you posting here in years!
I wouldn't even respond to Bilbo... he doesn't want to talk about Mosely's achievements... he's got a hidden Pac agenda (he tries to hide it but secretly he's a Pac minion).

Originally Posted by richard (mossley)

Mosely makes my top 1000, just behind Martin Rogan. He was 1 second away from humiliation against Mayorga

Humiliation as the scorecards would have announced him the winner? That was a great fight where both fighters performed well and Mosley really put the fan interest before his and probably made things harder on himself then he should have. As for the post, a lot of serious replies? And is this Bilbo?

Originally Posted by amat

Originally Posted by richard (mossley)

Mosely makes my top 1000, just behind Martin Rogan. He was 1 second away from humiliation against Mayorga

Humiliation as the scorecards would have announced him the winner? That was a great fight where both fighters performed well and Mosley really put the fan interest before his and probably made things harder on himself then he should have. As for the post, a lot of serious replies? And is this Bilbo?

I know. It boggles the mind.

Originally Posted by generalbulldog

Sugar Shane is definitely the greatest fighter that has ever lived. Sugar Shane almost 38 years old manages to be just as strong, fast, with great reflexes that he had in his late 20s. No fighter in fact no athlete in the history of sports has managed to be as physically good in their late 30s as they were in their prime years.

Sugar Ray Leonard and Robinson were shot in their late 30s, Ali was getting beat up by Holmes and Berbick, Roy Jones was getting ko by guys he would have beaten up, Whitaker was getting beat up by Tito, Joe Louis got ko by Marciano at age 37. Not with Sugar Shane.

Tell this to George Foreman and Archie Moore who were still champions at 45. If Shane is still on top in 7 years then I'll agree with you.

Style makes fight. Shane Mosley is great. Margarito is tailor made for him. That was prolly his greatest performance. But he's also tailor made for a couple of fighters... Forrest and Wright. And for that, he can't be above SRR, Ali, or any top 10 ATGs.