My friend/boxing trainer and I have been arguin over this recently.
He says that if Tito met up with Benn at 160 he would tear through Nigel and knock him out easily in a couple rounds.
I beg to differ.
My friend/boxing trainer and I have been arguin over this recently.
He says that if Tito met up with Benn at 160 he would tear through Nigel and knock him out easily in a couple rounds.
I beg to differ.
"You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"
IMO Trinidad had the more explosive punching power, and it's not like Benn was a ring technician, i think it would of been even for most of the fight, until Trinidad stops him in the later rounds due to the huge double left hooks (hook to the body then the head) combined with his huge straight right, but this much said i think he'd stop Benn on his feet, probably on the ropes
Hulk,you should go easier on your trainer in sparring or at least pull your punches....hes clearly affected.
Benn way to strong and Tito going back is a Tito being hurt in that one.
Last edited by Spicoli; 07-24-2009 at 08:41 PM.
Haha
My trainer and I just go to the body when we spar. Sometimes jabs up top.
Cus he suffered a brain tumour when he was younger and had to have it removed back then, so its not safe to go hard up top with him.
Real good trainer and good guy though.
He just doesn't like Benn. Thinks he has no skill or defense.
And while I will agree with my trainer, that HIS favorite fighter, James Toney would KO Benn at 160, I don't think Tito could have done it.
Even if Tito hurt Benn, then the "Dark Destroyer" woulda got up and run thru Tito like a hot knife thru butter.
"You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"
Benn would tear off Tito's head.
Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.
Trinidad punches were straighter than Benn's. If he could avoid getting caught Trinidad stops him. And stops him early.
I agree Benn was at his best at 168. Not 160
Trinidad was not as effective at 160 as he was 154 and 147.
Benn KO.
I believe Nigel Benn beat Doug Dewitt and Robbie Simms at 160 as well.
And Iran Barkely is a MUCH bigger man than Tito Trinidad.
He had straight punches too.
And was knocked down 3 times and stopped in one round.
"You knocked him down...now how bout you try knockin me down ?"
Think these hypotheticals get a bit blurred.Couple of weeks ago it was Toney vs. Holyfield at cruiserweight.......Have to take into account the tremendous difference in experience of each guy at the moment in time.The hypo is really loaded in one direction
Benn was a what?2,3 year pro at middle and Tito by the time he reached 160 had a decade + under his belt.And although he smashed Joppy,I still say he was not a middleweight and had done nothing else there.Also maturity as a fighter,Benn at 160 was in his pure destruct and come forward days but would go on to add some nice boxing and patients down the stretch......perhaps learned best from punching himself out vs. Watson and Eubanks in the first go.
Going against that,I still say Benn is to strong and while both fighters...especially Tito, were dropped and stunned very early in fights...more often than not they both got up.I think Tito gets put on his heels and it gets to be an inside fight,Titos left hook would be dangerous but when its close and they exchange.If Jr. Welts drop Tito...Benn keeps him on the floor.
both bangers both could get hurt,i am going with benn by brutal ko 2 after i would think going down himself ,i am not comparing trinidad to logan so dont think i am but the ending could be simaliar with benn hurt and trinidad moving in for the kill when nigel hooks him into next week ,benn at 160 although not as good as the 168 version had more one punch power
To be honest though VD, you say Iran Barkley had lost his last two. But that doesn't tell the whole story, two of those losses were against Roberto Duran, Michael Nunn.
Roberto Duran fought the fight of his life, and i thought Iran Barkley did enough to win. But still i have no complaints it was a great fight. And a very close one at that.
And Michael Nunn was P4P number 4, and was just coming off a brutal KO win over Sumbu Kalambay. Many people thought Michael Nunn would beat Iran Barkley easily.
But infact it was a very close fight, and Iran Barkley was praised on a very good effort against Michael Nunn. Losing a very close decision, me personally i only had Michael Nunn winning by 2 rounds.
As for the Nigel Benn vs Iran Barkley fight, i personally think Nigel Benn got away with murder. Hitting Iran Barkley while he was on the floor, and he was lucky the 3 knockdown rule was in effect. Because i believe Iran Barkley may of comeback to stop Nigel Benn.
I agree with you that Nigel Benn was better at 168 though, he improved as a boxer and i think his punch resistance. Was better at 168 aswell, but he still had some other good underrated wins at 160. The only man to stop Robbie Sims and a dominating win over Doug DeWitt.
As for this fight itself, well i was never really sold on Felix Trinidad at 160. I don't think he was at his best at Middleweight. And personally he did get knocked down alot early, and had that happened against Nigel Benn i don't think he would of survived.
And say what you will about Nigel Benn being better at 168, but he still had crushing one punch KO power. And i think he hit harder than Felix Trinidad especially at 160.
But Nigel Benn himself at 160 had bad defensive flaws. And wasn't quite the boxer he was at 160, and Felix Trinidad would have the advantage of experience over Nigel Benn, i really think this is about as 50/50 as you can get. This fight has so many ways it could go its impossible for me to pick.
Last edited by ICB; 07-27-2009 at 05:51 PM.
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