I was just thinking about this after reading Al Bernstein's article this week. Chuck is obviously one of the most devastating standup/punchers in MMA history, so how would he have done as say a Crusierweight against the likes of Haye, Mormeck etc?
I was just thinking about this after reading Al Bernstein's article this week. Chuck is obviously one of the most devastating standup/punchers in MMA history, so how would he have done as say a Crusierweight against the likes of Haye, Mormeck etc?
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Chuck liddell is a UFC legend. Personnaly i see him being able to beat a few contenders but ultimatly being outboxed by the elites he would never make it to world class level. But my heart says he could have maybe gone far lol, i dont know chuck 'the ice man' Liddell will always be my fav MMA fighter!
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On second thought lol, i think he would KO haye and big mac because of there weak chins. Chuck has an amazing chin especialy in his prime when he fought the likes of vito belfort and tito ortiz he probably would just walk through there punches and land his bombs!
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Well once he ran across someone who knew how to BOX he'd get seriously fucked up. What Rampage Jackson did to him was what any boxer would do...Lidell pushed his jab out there, dropped it down instead of bringing it back to a defensive position and Rampage just lobbed a right cross over the top of it and it knocked him out....peice of cake, anyone who watched the fight could tell what he was doing wasn't sound BOXING.
Now had Chuck been taught BOXING specifically, I think he could have done ok, it depends on how well he took to learning the subtleties of boxing, pushing the jab and then dropping it to your waist is a Day 1 NO NO....but there are plenty of boxers who still do it, some use it to bait fighters to throw a power punch so they can counter them (James Toney, Floyd Mayweather Jr., Roy Jones Jr., etc) and others, like Andy Lee just never seem to learn that it's not illegal to block a punch with something other than your face.
Chuck could have been a cruiser champ for sure. I think he would have at least tried to go fro heavyweight being that close to their weight. 205lbs is LHW in UFC and he is cutting weight to get there.
Chuck has strong legs (had) and a great chin. He was not just a war machine. He took some big shots, but he had guile in the ring. If he started boxing when he started MMA he would have been just as good. He's a true athlete and freak of nature.
Gotta remember he is 39 now and he's been rattled too many times. So I wouldn't hold it against him for losing to Rampage recently. Granted he couldn't beat him in pride either...
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He would of got his ass kicked badly
Ive always watched Liddell thinking a top cruiserweight would slaughter him.
Haye would have him spark uncouncoius in one round in a boxing match.
Can you imagine the damage a puncher like Haye (or any big punching boxer) would do with those little gloves. Frightening.
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Chuck's an elite MMA fighter.
He can get seriously schooled and hurt against the boxing's elites in his division. Having said that, it is tit for tat, he too, will school a lot of boxers in the same division, should they decide to try their hand out in the MMA.
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I love Chuck and had he been trained all along as a boxer he would have had moderate success simply b/c he has a great beard and tremendous KO power. Those two combined with great timing and counter punching can go along way. All that aside Chuck either didn't want to evolve or simply couldn't. MMA striking became more technical and people figured out his odd angles and counter punching. I think Chuck as a boxer would have fallen in love with his knockout power just like he did in MMA and would never be a technical enough fighter to be considered an elite or championship fighter. There was a period of time where Chuck was as talented as any body in MMA but the sport and father time passed him by.
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Now if the question is how would he do now or anytime w/o significant training as a boxer? Then yes he'd get destroyed. There is a very small group of boxers or mixed martial artists that could switch sports and have any semblance of success.
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He may become an contender if he dedicated himself to the sport in the beginning other than that I don't see him becoming an champion like say an Holyfield.
He was able to become an elite fighter in his particular sport, I see not reason why he would not have been able to do the same in boxing if he dedicated himself to boxing as he did with MMA.
Had Chuck been a boxer he would have merely had to concentrate on his hands. He certainly would have been a more calculating striker due to that focus and the experience he would amass rising through the ranks.
However, as a Cruiserweight in boxing he would have been undersized.
Additionally he doesn't have the best body for movement so he would have been exploited by many fighters, bigger/quicker/more skillfull.
However, in boxing he would have been marketed carefully and made a truckload more money"!
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stupid question
why the hell would he continue fighting in the MMA if he could earn potential multi millions by being a succesful boxer.
America may love UFC/MMA/WWF but the rest of the world is years away from catching on!!!
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