Thread: Tyson Documentary

"Tyson" just came out on DVD on Tuesday and I finally got a chance to watch it. The documentary is filled with stuff we already know, but having Tyson narrate it gave it a good vibe.

I had a hard time watching him talk about Cus and seeing how difficult it was for him to stop himself from crying. He also had a great scene where they showed numerous ring walks he's had throughout his career in a little montage with him talking about how his tremendous amount of fear kept changing forms until he finally got into the ring and then felt invincible.

Here's the monologue I was talking about:

"When I come out I have supreme confidence but I’m scared to death. I’m totally afraid. I’m afraid of everything, I’m afraid of losing, I’m afraid of being humiliated, but I was totally confident. The closer I get to the ring the more confident I get. All during my training I’ve been afraid of this man. I thought this man might be capable of beating me. I dreamed of him beating me. I always stayed afraid of him. Once I’m in the ring, I’m a God, no one can beat me…" - Mike Tyson

Originally Posted by C-Lo

Here's the monologue I was talking about:

"When I come out I have supreme confidence but I’m scared to death. I’m totally afraid. I’m afraid of everything, I’m afraid of losing, I’m afraid of being humiliated, but I was totally confident. The closer I get to the ring the more confident I get. All during my training I’ve been afraid of this man. I thought this man might be capable of beating me. I dreamed of him beating me. I always stayed afraid of him. Once I’m in the ring, I’m a God, no one can beat me…" - Mike Tyson

Only came out tuesday? I got it a good 2 months since!

Originally Posted by rjj tszyu

Originally Posted by C-Lo

Here's the monologue I was talking about:

"When I come out I have supreme confidence but I’m scared to death. I’m totally afraid. I’m afraid of everything, I’m afraid of losing, I’m afraid of being humiliated, but I was totally confident. The closer I get to the ring the more confident I get. All during my training I’ve been afraid of this man. I thought this man might be capable of beating me. I dreamed of him beating me. I always stayed afraid of him. Once I’m in the ring, I’m a God, no one can beat me…" - Mike Tyson

Only came out tuesday? I got it a good 2 months since!

Yes same here i have had it a while and I thought it was rubbish If im honest.

Really?! I was looking for that thing in video stores for a couple weeks now and I was pretty upset I couldn't find it. Eventually I just looked around on the internet and I saw the release date being the 18th.

It was out a while ago in theaters but DVD it just came out. (To avoid any confusion)

Its fooking brilliant to watch.Its put together really good.It came out over here in the UK before anywhere else for some reason.I bought it about 2-3months ago when it first came out.I've watched it about 8 times already.

Originally Posted by yvonne

Its fooking brilliant to watch.Its put together really good.It came out over here in the UK before anywhere else for some reason.I bought it about 2-3months ago when it first came out.I've watched it about 8 times already.

That good? I have only seen clips here and there...Have avoided buying it because truthfully afraid it wass going to be jst another Tyson documentary...So many have been done but always the same thing....

Think I will get a copy

It was incredible and at times sad to see the most destructive force in boxing history succumb to the vultures that surrounded him and ultimately destroyed his career.

Originally Posted by DaxxKahn

Originally Posted by yvonne

Its fooking brilliant to watch.Its put together really good.It came out over here in the UK before anywhere else for some reason.I bought it about 2-3months ago when it first came out.I've watched it about 8 times already.

That good? I have only seen clips here and there...Have avoided buying it because truthfully afraid it wass going to be jst another Tyson documentary...So many have been done but always the same thing....

Think I will get a copy

It is good and funny at times, I downloaded it months ago. When he was talking about Cus and when he first went there (to his house) he said he thought to himself "fuck man, I could rob these white guys"

Made me laugh, very honest of him.

often wonder what would have happened to Tyson if Cus had been younger and lasted another 10 years. Seems to be the only person Tyson ever truly listened to. Self destruction is pretty much inbulit in most people who come apart though, still.....

Tried to avoid this as most of these things turn out to be a rehash of old stuff, but I will give it a watch now based on what's being said.

Heh, I didn't know that Tyson had Gonorrhea when he fought Berbick for the WBC HW title.

And of course as someone pointed out, if Cus D'amato had lived a few more years how would the HW division, boxing history, and Tyson's life have turned out?

It's amazing when he sacked Rooney his original trainer appointed by Cus, his fighting skills went to absolute shit. It was the 1st Bruno fight and he was hit more times in that fight than all of his fights combined up to that point. And we all know what happened in the Douglass fight when the trainer was using an water balloon to ice down Tyson's eye.

Originally Posted by jamiebhoy

often wonder what would have happened to Tyson if Cus had been younger and lasted another 10 years. Seems to be the only person Tyson ever truly listened to. Self destruction is pretty much inbulit in most people who come apart though, still.....

Tried to avoid this as most of these things turn out to be a rehash of old stuff, but I will give it a watch now based on what's being said.

Tyson could've been arguably the greatest heavyweight ever had Cus never passed so early in his career. He was the only person who could "control" Mike. That's what I think at least.

Originally Posted by C-Lo

Originally Posted by jamiebhoy

often wonder what would have happened to Tyson if Cus had been younger and lasted another 10 years. Seems to be the only person Tyson ever truly listened to. Self destruction is pretty much inbulit in most people who come apart though, still.....

Tried to avoid this as most of these things turn out to be a rehash of old stuff, but I will give it a watch now based on what's being said.

Tyson could've been arguably the greatest heavyweight ever had Cus never passed so early in his career. He was the only person who could "control" Mike. That's what I think at least.

I would like to think that may have been the case, ironically the people pulling the strings after Cus died tried to put their own people in place and that was part of his undoing. With Rooney there he had someone who could call out the combination numbers they used to work on and switch things around, he seemed to follow instructions automatically that way.
Afterwards he just didn't have the same movement, but we'll never really know.

I find myself appreciating "Tyson" the recent docu-video release on the life of former heavweight champ Mike Tyson. Actually, I like it a lot!

...on reflection, for a guy to have earned 300-400 million dollars in his lifetime and considering that at present, "Iron Mike" Tyson, still is only 43 years young, it is quite remarkable, IMHO, that he never really reached his maximum potential!

He was a pure warrior at the very highest form, with the purposeful physical tools to inflict a complete annihilation for the opposition, which up at present time, unequalled. There simply was, or is no man gifted with these set of skills, that can eclipse nor match the force in boxing that was Mike Tyson.

Power of a heavyweight, speed of a lighhtweight, with the iron chin! Deadly clockwork combinations skillwise, that deems deathly to the other poor soul across the ring!

Given orders to perform... he will, at a maximum destructive best towards an unwitting opponent. However, leave him untended, and without instructions, as will so evidently leave him on his own, Mike Tyson, will at a maximum destructive best, do upon himself harm one way or another, on or off the sport of boxing!

The untimely death of Cus d' Amato, Mike's father figure in his early life, signified the point at which he was forced to thread the dangerous waters of his life, rudderless. This is his stumbling block, and ever since, to describe his life as a roller coaster ride, is being gracious! Hellacious is more apt, or a life of one wreck after another if you will.

So after this episode, Tyson became a very rich and famous, but however, a rudderless young man, no longer in ownership of a blueprint for his place in history.

Mike never quite reached what he and Cus initially set out to do for his place in history, which is to be the greatest heavyweight boxer of all time!

...for a time there though, one cannot but be sold on the idea that Mike Tyson's ability for achieving it all was so easily, and seemingly, just a matter of time!

And sadly, we will never know.