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what happened??

Cleverly stopped old Courtney in the 8th as he tired.

Does it piss anyone else off that Sky show the main event then the undercard?

The worst thing is, if you look ringside you can normally see the guys that have already fought (like just now Chisora and the Walsh fella).. who goes ringside if they've been beaten? Fucking joke

do you think he is the real deal??

Crap Show, after tonight not sure how Cleverly will go at a higher level

I don't think Cleverly is half as good as most think. I first saw him struggling with Joey Vegas, since then I've been waiting for him to lose, admittedly he's improved.

If he beats someone genuine world-class i'll be properly shocked.

Sorry Vienna mate, logged off after the 6th round.

I'm going to hold the Welsh line here, I reckon Cleverly could be a decent European boxer, he's wiped the floor in an admittedly weak British division at the moment.

I'm not sure that training with his father Vince at an ABC is going to help him develop his pro style, he seems to back off awkwardly, and did get caught quite a few times tonight.

However, he's obviously growing into his strength, with 5 KOs on the trot after a pretty feather-fisted early career, and throws some nice punches.

Even though the light-heavies seems quite an empty division at the moment, populated with faded stars, up-and-comers and fighters who've moved up from SMW, I would like to see Cleverly brought on slowly. Let him learn not to get caught so often and box smarter than he's done this evening, and see how far he can get further down the line.

Originally Posted by superheavyrhun

I'm going to hold the Welsh line here, I reckon Cleverly could be a decent European boxer, he's wiped the floor in an admittedly weak British division at the moment.

I'm not sure that training with his father Vince at an ABC is going to help him develop his pro style, he seems to back off awkwardly, and did get caught quite a few times tonight.

However, he's obviously growing into his strength, with 5 KOs on the trot after a pretty feather-fisted early career, and throws some nice punches.

Even though the light-heavies seems quite an empty division at the moment, populated with faded stars, up-and-comers and fighters who've moved up from SMW, I would like to see Cleverly brought on slowly. Let him learn not to get caught so often and box smarter than he's done this evening, and see how far he can get further down the line.

It's a shame Woods retired I reckon that would of been a good indication of what Cleverly is capable of.

Originally Posted by skel1983

It's a shame Woods retired I reckon that would of been a good indication of what Cleverly is capable of.

Aye, Woods looked to have slowed down a lot in his past two fights, but I honestly think that he would be able to give us a more honest verdict on Cleverly's chin, and how adaptable he is to more experienced fighters who can adapt to him.

At the moment, I don't think there's enough competition in the UK for him to make the four fights to take the Lonsdale strap outright, so there's no option but to get him the Euro fight, or at least put him in with a few of the gatekeepers in the division.

I think Cleverly has got better with each fight,his power is improving all the time and IMO is looking the real deal so far.

As has been already said its a shame a fight with Clinton Woods could not be made coz then we would know a bit more about what he is made of.

Cleverly is going to be a world champion he is a very good fighter.

Originally Posted by Master

Cleverly is going to be a world champion he is a very good fighter.

Not to sure about that, who has he actully fought

Toney Oakey and Courtney Fry??

He has look good against weak opposistion, and the Fry fight for me made me re think how good this lad is, if I had to put the house on it I say he is not World Class.

Its the 1st time Ive had a good look at Him. His back foot is going to Haunt His progress, He is reaching to much, its a hard one to correct.