Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by Rantcatrat

Fenster, that is ridiculous. Dirrell and Froch was a very close fight that many people had going against the European, and the European won.

Kessler is also the favorite and a great ambassador of the sport regardless of his ethnic breakdown. He could be a crossover star. An american bias wouldn't prevent Kessler from winning it all. Now, if Froch was fighting in Oakland after the Dirrell fight, we can talk. Not that I agree, but we can talk.

One of Showtime's major selling points is USA vs Europe. The American's need help to get a point on the board.

I truly wish boxing wasn't a corrupt, vile sport where no man can ever lose without a plethora of excuses, but that's just the way it is.

I can see the "Kessler was robbed" threads a mile off.

Revenge robbery - like Ouma said.

Ward doesnt have it in him to even make a shock scorecard possible. If it does go the distance he wont win a single round through 5-12

You may end up having a very silly 115-113 card for kessler but no way can ward stretch a robbery!

Yes, but do you actually watch boxing?

Originally Posted by Fenster

You guys are missing the fact it's a REVENGE robbery. Fact.

Not really considering the fight in question was debatable and that the majority of the boxing public had it going either way

The same morons claiming dirrell got robbed are the ones that cried like bitches when holyfield didnt get the decision against valuev.

They have no actual understanding of the word "robbery"

The Showtime interviewer basically told Dirrell he was robbed. The majority of fans don't think it was 50/50 they think Dirrell won the fight (check the polls). Most of that majority think he was robbed too.

By the way my initial comments about the robbery were meant tongue-in-cheek. But the more I think about it the more it makes sense for an American victory.

Kessler is getting robbed. Fact.

Originally Posted by Fenster

The Showtime interviewer basically told Dirrell he was robbed. The majority of fans don't think it was 50/50 they think Dirrell won the fight (check the polls). Most of that majority think he was robbed too.

By the way my initial comments about the robbery were meant tongue-in-cheek. But the more I think about it the more it makes sense for an American victory.

Kessler is getting robbed. Fact.

He wont, we`ve spent a hell of a lot of time getting to the stage where a fight of this magnitude can be scored correctly.

20 years ago definitely
10 years ago possibly

you have to be very vindictive to believe 3judges and a ref are to be told before a fight the hometown fighter needs to win due to something that happened across the pond a few weeks back

PS:Showtime believe the boxing world revolves solely around US fighters and that even a remotely average fight has to be scored for the US fighter hence the extremely byest dribble they produced on the night

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Originally Posted by Fenster

The Showtime interviewer basically told Dirrell he was robbed. The majority of fans don't think it was 50/50 they think Dirrell won the fight (check the polls). Most of that majority think he was robbed too.

By the way my initial comments about the robbery were meant tongue-in-cheek. But the more I think about it the more it makes sense for an American victory.

Kessler is getting robbed. Fact.

He wont, we`ve spent a hell of a lot of time getting to the stage where a fight of this magnitude can be scored correctly.

20 years ago definitely
10 years ago possibly

you have to be very vindictive to believe 3judges and a ref are to be told before a fight the hometown fighter needs to win due to something that happened across the pond a few weeks back

PS:Showtime believe the boxing world revolves solely around US fighters and that even a remotely average fight has to be scored for the US fighter hence the extremely byest dribble they produced on the night

Right.. and who is running this comp? Showtime!!!

Robberies don't always occur through 100% pure corruption. Sometimes they happen because the sentiment is swayed towards the home guy.

It's good for business.

Originally Posted by Fenster

Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

Originally Posted by Fenster

The Showtime interviewer basically told Dirrell he was robbed. The majority of fans don't think it was 50/50 they think Dirrell won the fight (check the polls). Most of that majority think he was robbed too.

By the way my initial comments about the robbery were meant tongue-in-cheek. But the more I think about it the more it makes sense for an American victory.

Kessler is getting robbed. Fact.

He wont, we`ve spent a hell of a lot of time getting to the stage where a fight of this magnitude can be scored correctly.

20 years ago definitely
10 years ago possibly

you have to be very vindictive to believe 3judges and a ref are to be told before a fight the hometown fighter needs to win due to something that happened across the pond a few weeks back

PS:Showtime believe the boxing world revolves solely around US fighters and that even a remotely average fight has to be scored for the US fighter hence the extremely byest dribble they produced on the night

Right.. and who is running this comp? Showtime!!!

Robberies don't always occur through 100% pure corruption. Sometimes they happen because the sentiment is swayed towards the home guy.

It's good for business.

Young US hero travels thousands of miles and beats the very foreign devil who stopped one of their top boys not 6months back or big nosed brit once again turning over there boy and the night creating no fireworks whatsoever

think we all know which is more beneficiary for them. Anyway im sick of talking about the fight. It was a horrible contest neither got any credit from. Froch won a very close decision end of story.

Yes again it would be a great result for SHO if ward were to take out the divisions top boy. But it certainly wouldnt do much for the ref or 3 judges both domestically and worldwide if this apparent screwjob were to take place.

Kessler will whoop ward and the hired states judges will score the fight completely fairly unlike those at showtime who will it inevitably have ward winning by a couple of rounds afterwards

I dont believe that the fight goes to the scorecard-

Kessler wins TKO in round 5

Ward, son of god, Kessler, son of thor!

Originally Posted by thewhale

I dont believe that the fight goes to the scorecard-

Kessler wins TKO in round 5

You better be right, if not it will be very difficult for Mikkel to win on points in Ward’s backyard; I think Andre has the tools to make a very close fight, at least close enough to get the decision.

Originally Posted by jangeorg

Ward, son of god, Kessler, son of thor!

i like kessler but since you want to put some religion thing then lets up the stakes. we will see then who gets hammered and nailed.

Originally Posted by josef4334

Originally Posted by jangeorg

Ward, son of god, Kessler, son of thor!

i like kessler but since you want to put some religion thing then lets up the stakes. we will see then who gets hammered and nailed.

Andre"son of god"Ward vs Mikkel"Viking Warrior"Kessler

Nothing to do with religion, it is a joke, but since you can`t see the fun, i apologize

I had Kessler picked to win this thing outright,so this makes it an easy call for me to pick him in this fight. I must say tho, Abraham sure gave us something to think about. if he can pick up the pace with those outbursts of power and speed comikng outta the shell, will be a scary man standing across from anyone in this division, with a good chance of winning it all also. That chin of his don't hurt his chances either.

I had Kessler picked to win this thing outright,so this makes it an easy call for me to pick him in this fight. I must say tho, Abraham sure gave us something to think about. if he can pick up the pace with those outbursts of power and speed comikng outta the shell, will be a scary man standing across from anyone in this division, with a good chance of winning it all also. That chin of his don't hurt his chances either.

Kessler By K.O somewhere in the run. Ward is very good but definitely not ready for the top of the league.

I'm not liking going against Kessler in the first round of the tournament but I think Ward is going to win in honest fashion. I think these two are the best of the bunch, although I'm with Youngblood on Abraham(he's capable of changing everything). Ward is one of those guys who just wins. I mean Andre Ward has never lost a boxing match ever, in the amateurs(at least not open class) or the pros. But somehow he is never the favorite(amateur continental tournaments, Olympics, Miranda...) It may not be prolific, fan favoring, or pretty but Ward just wins. He didn't exactly get a good draw but I think he will eke this one out somehow.