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11-02-2009, 12:59 PM
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Ricky Hatton is best known as a heavy hitting boxer who suffered two high profile losses to Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao. And now, Randy Couture hopes that the two-time IBF and IBO light welterweight champion will try his hand at MMA, and is willing to train the British professional boxer in ground game if he comes to the UFC.
"I am a big fan of Ricky Hatton,” Couture told the Manchester Evening News. “He is a fantastic fighter. I could get him up to speed on the ground wrestling part of it, while he could take advantage of his boxing talent. He could make a big difference in the lighter categories.”
Couture says that if Hatton could learn the “ways of the UFC,” he could go far in the sport.
“He is a tremendous fighter and has a lot of heart. There is no doubt he could make a tremendous impact with his heart and determination in the ring,” Couture stated.
Hatton said that he may consider the move from boxing to MMA, since the momentum behind the MMA sport is growing.
"It is all action, proper fighting. [The UFC] are going the right away about it to get people interested. There is a concern in boxing that UFC is taking its place. People seem to get more value for money,” Hatton stated. “UFC would be right up my street, I used to kick box so maybe I would be all right."
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Very interesting..
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11-02-2009, 01:05 PM
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wonder if dana has a spare $15million lying around that he`d need for hatton to even consider entering your "frat boy" loving gayfest
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11-02-2009, 01:08 PM
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Ricky Hatton is best known as a heavy hitting boxer who suffered two high profile losses to Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao. And now, Randy Couture hopes that the two-time IBF and IBO light welterweight champion will try his hand at MMA, and is willing to train the British professional boxer in ground game if he comes to the UFC.
"I am a big fan of Ricky Hatton,” Couture told the Manchester Evening News. “He is a fantastic fighter. I could get him up to speed on the ground wrestling part of it, while he could take advantage of his boxing talent. He could make a big difference in the lighter categories.”
Couture says that if Hatton could learn the “ways of the UFC,” he could go far in the sport.
“He is a tremendous fighter and has a lot of heart. There is no doubt he could make a tremendous impact with his heart and determination in the ring,” Couture stated.
Hatton said that he may consider the move from boxing to MMA, since the momentum behind the MMA sport is growing.
"It is all action, proper fighting. [The UFC] are going the right away about it to get people interested. There is a concern in boxing that UFC is taking its place. People seem to get more value for money,” Hatton stated. “UFC would be right up my street, I used to kick box so maybe I would be all right."
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Very interesting.. | if Hatton enjoys any level of success in MMA it proves how weak of a sport it really is lol
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11-02-2009, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyUK Read this on a MMA forum. Quote:
Ricky Hatton is best known as a heavy hitting boxer who suffered two high profile losses to Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao. And now, Randy Couture hopes that the two-time IBF and IBO light welterweight champion will try his hand at MMA, and is willing to train the British professional boxer in ground game if he comes to the UFC.
"I am a big fan of Ricky Hatton,” Couture told the Manchester Evening News. “He is a fantastic fighter. I could get him up to speed on the ground wrestling part of it, while he could take advantage of his boxing talent. He could make a big difference in the lighter categories.”
Couture says that if Hatton could learn the “ways of the UFC,” he could go far in the sport.
“He is a tremendous fighter and has a lot of heart. There is no doubt he could make a tremendous impact with his heart and determination in the ring,” Couture stated.
Hatton said that he may consider the move from boxing to MMA, since the momentum behind the MMA sport is growing.
"It is all action, proper fighting. [The UFC] are going the right away about it to get people interested. There is a concern in boxing that UFC is taking its place. People seem to get more value for money,” Hatton stated. “UFC would be right up my street, I used to kick box so maybe I would be all right."
| Source http://www.fightline.com/news/mma/20...re/index.shtml
Very interesting.. | if Hatton enjoys any level of success in MMA it proves how weak of a sport it really is lol | UFC have 2 ex boxers who faced each other not so long back. They were both bums in boxing but have made a decent living in MMA. Just shows the difference in natural talent between the 2 sports when these 2 dweebs can make it to the top 10-15 in the world in MMA in their division which is basically the level of fighter you need to be to make UFC rather than the other bum organisations. Marcus Davis Chris Lytle
Hatton is too expensive for the $200,000 max fighters of MMA anyway.   |
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeyUK | if Hatton enjoys any level of success in MMA it proves how weak of a sport it really is lol | UFC have 2 ex boxers who faced each other not so long back. They were both bums in boxing but have made a decent living in MMA. Just shows the difference in natural talent between the 2 sports when these 2 dweebs can make it to the top 10-15 in the world in MMA in their division which is basically the level of fighter you need to be to make UFC rather than the other bum organisations. Marcus Davis Chris Lytle
Hatton is too expensive for the $200,000 max fighters of MMA anyway. | There is more strength in depth in MMA sure, but the reason it's easier for an athlete to cross over into MMA with a better chance of success than in boxing is that, with more ways to fight, there is a greater possibility for an athlete to make use of their particular physical gifts.
Take Brock Lesnar for example. He would likely struggle to make an impact in boxing as his greatest stengths would be of relatively little use in boxing. He would be unable to make use of his great physical size in bullrushing and charging people to the ground like a rhino.
If Hatton has decent kickboxing fundamentals, that coupled with the fact that he has top boxing, and excellent wrestling skills would likely make him pretty handy in their lightweight division, although he would duller to watch than Sean Sherk.
There is no doubt though that the top MMA guys like Anderson Silva, Machida, Shogun, BJ Penn and St Pierre are comparable in terms of talent to anyone in boxing.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales if Hatton enjoys any level of success in MMA it proves how weak of a sport it really is lol | UFC have 2 ex boxers who faced each other not so long back. They were both bums in boxing but have made a decent living in MMA. Just shows the difference in natural talent between the 2 sports when these 2 dweebs can make it to the top 10-15 in the world in MMA in their division which is basically the level of fighter you need to be to make UFC rather than the other bum organisations. Marcus Davis Chris Lytle
Hatton is too expensive for the $200,000 max fighters of MMA anyway. | There is more strength in depth in MMA sure, but the reason it's easier for an athlete to cross over into MMA with a better chance of success than in boxing is that, with more ways to fight, there is a greater possibility for an athlete to make use of their particular physical gifts.
Take Brock Lesnar for example. He would likely struggle to make an impact in boxing as his greatest stengths would be of relatively little use in boxing. He would be unable to make use of his great physical size in bullrushing and charging people to the ground like a rhino.
If Hatton has decent kickboxing fundamentals, that coupled with the fact that he has top boxing, and excellent wrestling skills would likely make him pretty handy in their lightweight division, although he would duller to watch than Sean Sherk.
There is no doubt though that the top MMA guys like Anderson Silva, Machida, Shogun, BJ Penn and St Pierre are comparable in terms of talent to anyone in boxing. | Anderson Silva got KO'd off a total bum in boxing. In his last MMA fight all he did was box and won by a first round KO against Forrest Griffin (I think). Boxing has elite athletes, MMA as of yet does not. As for Brock Lesnar, Vitali Klitschko would KO him quick if he came charging in head first the way he does in the UFC fights. There is very little lateral movement in MMA and the likes of Vitali would just use simple movement to position himself for a KO blow. |
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I disagree with alot of what's been said.. I think to say that 'MMA fighters aren't as good athletes as boxers' is pretty stupid and comes across quite fanboyish. The top MMA athletes have been pouring their life into their chosen martial arts, and alot of them train in 3,4,5 different martial arts..
On the topic of Hatton, if he developed a good ground game defense he could potentially do well in MMA, I can't think of anyone who hits harder to the body in the UFC than Hatton does, especially in the lower divisions. Personally I don't see this happening, but I would be pretty excited if it did. Maybe it's just a bit of promotion seeing as Couture is fighting in Manchester on the 14th. |
11-02-2009, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyUK I disagree with alot of what's been said.. I think to say that 'MMA fighters aren't as good athletes as boxers' is pretty stupid and comes across quite fanboyish. The top MMA athletes have been pouring their life into their chosen martial arts, and alot of them train in 3,4,5 different martial arts..
On the topic of Hatton, if he developed a good ground game defense he could potentially do well in MMA, I can't think of anyone who hits harder to the body in the UFC than Hatton does, especially in the lower divisions. Personally I don't see this happening, but I would be pretty excited if it did. Maybe it's just a bit of promotion seeing as Couture is fighting in Manchester on the 14th. | Agreed. They're two totally different sports. I've had this argument on here so many times it's not worth regurgitating. I'm not even a fan of the sport, but it's ridiculous to say MMA fighters are less talented or less skilled than boxers and it reeks of jealousy and insecurity.
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Both sports require top athletes to perform at the highest level, it is just 2 different way of fighting and it is nutty to assume that some athletes of one of both sports are lesser than the top guys on the other side of the fence.
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11-02-2009, 04:32 PM
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Couture is trying to lure no one he is promoting a UFC card in Manchester, he was asked weather Hatton could become a UFC fighter what do you think he was going to say, " no Hatton is shit he hasnt got a chance "
Hatton is the biggest fighter in Manchester so it figures why Randy was asked that question.
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11-02-2009, 05:22 PM
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UFC have 2 ex boxers who faced each other not so long back. They were both bums in boxing but have made a decent living in MMA. Just shows the difference in natural talent between the 2 sports when these 2 dweebs can make it to the top 10-15 in the world in MMA in their division which is basically the level of fighter you need to be to make UFC rather than the other bum organisations. Marcus Davis Chris Lytle
Hatton is too expensive for the $200,000 max fighters of MMA anyway. | There is more strength in depth in MMA sure, but the reason it's easier for an athlete to cross over into MMA with a better chance of success than in boxing is that, with more ways to fight, there is a greater possibility for an athlete to make use of their particular physical gifts.
Take Brock Lesnar for example. He would likely struggle to make an impact in boxing as his greatest stengths would be of relatively little use in boxing. He would be unable to make use of his great physical size in bullrushing and charging people to the ground like a rhino.
If Hatton has decent kickboxing fundamentals, that coupled with the fact that he has top boxing, and excellent wrestling skills would likely make him pretty handy in their lightweight division, although he would duller to watch than Sean Sherk.
There is no doubt though that the top MMA guys like Anderson Silva, Machida, Shogun, BJ Penn and St Pierre are comparable in terms of talent to anyone in boxing. | Anderson Silva got KO'd off a total bum in boxing. In his last MMA fight all he did was box and won by a first round KO against Forrest Griffin (I think). Boxing has elite athletes, MMA as of yet does not. As for Brock Lesnar, Vitali Klitschko would KO him quick if he came charging in head first the way he does in the UFC fights. There is very little lateral movement in MMA and the likes of Vitali would just use simple movement to position himself for a KO blow. | A nice little boxrec internet warrior rant.
He got tko'd over 10 years ago the same year that Manny Pacquaio was ko'd by Singsurat ( I have boxrec and google too) what relavence does that have to anything now exactly?
I'm guessing he's probably improved a little bit as a fighter between now and then, and his skills extend well beyond just boxing.
If you fight Silva in a boxing ring, you are fighting him minus 80 percent of his skills. It's like an infantryman boasting he took out a fighter jet with a bazooka but then you find out the fighter jet was still on the runway, not quite such an heroic act as you thought........ |
11-02-2009, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Bilbo
There is more strength in depth in MMA sure, but the reason it's easier for an athlete to cross over into MMA with a better chance of success than in boxing is that, with more ways to fight, there is a greater possibility for an athlete to make use of their particular physical gifts.
Take Brock Lesnar for example. He would likely struggle to make an impact in boxing as his greatest stengths would be of relatively little use in boxing. He would be unable to make use of his great physical size in bullrushing and charging people to the ground like a rhino.
If Hatton has decent kickboxing fundamentals, that coupled with the fact that he has top boxing, and excellent wrestling skills would likely make him pretty handy in their lightweight division, although he would duller to watch than Sean Sherk.
There is no doubt though that the top MMA guys like Anderson Silva, Machida, Shogun, BJ Penn and St Pierre are comparable in terms of talent to anyone in boxing.
| Anderson Silva got KO'd off a total bum in boxing. In his last MMA fight all he did was box and won by a first round KO against Forrest Griffin (I think). Boxing has elite athletes, MMA as of yet does not. As for Brock Lesnar, Vitali Klitschko would KO him quick if he came charging in head first the way he does in the UFC fights. There is very little lateral movement in MMA and the likes of Vitali would just use simple movement to position himself for a KO blow. | A nice little boxrec internet warrior rant.
He got tko'd over 10 years ago the same year that Manny Pacquaio was ko'd by Singsurat ( I have boxrec and google too) what relavence does that have to anything now exactly?
I'm guessing he's probably improved a little bit as a fighter between now and then, and his skills extend well beyond just boxing.
If you fight Silva in a boxing ring, you are fighting him minus 80 percent of his skills. It's like an infantryman boasting he took out a fighter jet with a bazooka but then you find out the fighter jet was still on the runway, not quite such an heroic act as you thought........ | Actually I didn't look at Boxrec to get that, it's common knowledge.
I don't actually mind MMA but they are not on the same level as top boxers IMO. When you see a 40 year old Roy Jones throw 7 left hooks in one second, then that to me is an awesome athlete who is nowhere near his best anymore but I never see any striking of that quality in MMA.
I think that if MMA gets bigger purses, to match the top boxing matches ($10,000,000+) then they will start getting natural freak athletes like the Roy Jones' and Floyd Mayweather's parents training them from being 2 years old at MMA. Then they will have the likes of these who can do these unthinkable things. As for Anderson Silva, I've seen interviews with him where he talks of how great an athlete Roy Jones is and how he'd love the natural gifts of Jones. He also used to call himself the Roy Jones of MMA. |
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Hatton would get smashed!
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Taking those lead left hooks that Mayweather and Pac landed on him and subtract all but 4 ounces of padding and things could get very ugly and dangerous for Hatton. Also his tendencies to clinch could see him getting thown or taken down a lot. He's need more than a few ground work cram sessions with Couture.
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11-02-2009, 06:45 PM
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Anderson Silva got KO'd off a total bum in boxing. In his last MMA fight all he did was box and won by a first round KO against Forrest Griffin (I think). Boxing has elite athletes, MMA as of yet does not. As for Brock Lesnar, Vitali Klitschko would KO him quick if he came charging in head first the way he does in the UFC fights. There is very little lateral movement in MMA and the likes of Vitali would just use simple movement to position himself for a KO blow.
| A nice little boxrec internet warrior rant.
He got tko'd over 10 years ago the same year that Manny Pacquaio was ko'd by Singsurat ( I have boxrec and google too) what relavence does that have to anything now exactly?
I'm guessing he's probably improved a little bit as a fighter between now and then, and his skills extend well beyond just boxing.
If you fight Silva in a boxing ring, you are fighting him minus 80 percent of his skills. It's like an infantryman boasting he took out a fighter jet with a bazooka but then you find out the fighter jet was still on the runway, not quite such an heroic act as you thought........ | Actually I didn't look at Boxrec to get that, it's common knowledge.
I don't actually mind MMA but they are not on the same level as top boxers IMO. When you see a 40 year old Roy Jones throw 7 left hooks in one second, then that to me is an awesome athlete who is nowhere near his best anymore but I never see any striking of that quality in MMA.
I think that if MMA gets bigger purses, to match the top boxing matches ($10,000,000+) then they will start getting natural freak athletes like the Roy Jones' and Floyd Mayweather's parents training them from being 2 years old at MMA. Then they will have the likes of these who can do these unthinkable things. As for Anderson Silva, I've seen interviews with him where he talks of how great an athlete Roy Jones is and how he'd love the natural gifts of Jones. He also used to call himself the Roy Jones of MMA. | It's common knowledge, but taken from the internet.
Have you actually seen the fight? How badly was he knocked out?
As for throwing 7 punches a second like Roy Jones, of course not, no MMA star is as a good a boxer as Roy Jones, but that's only around 25% of their skill set.
It's like saying all the running backs and wide receivers in the NFL are shit because they are so slow compared to Usain Bolt. | |
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