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11-02-2009, 05:48 PM
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From the evidence i've seen and heard I would have to say Marg cheated against Cotto.
Kind of reminds me of the Assault in the ring Video by HBO. Except not such a devastating ending! |
11-02-2009, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Chino  I am not so sure if he cheated against Cotto. How can we explain Margarito walking forward like a tank against a swarm of mosquitoes (Cotto's punches)? Did he put plaster on his face? Also, if Margarito was cheating that night, it would be a bit dumb of him to be parading his fists up high in victory walking around the ring, in front of all cameras, during the interviews after the fight, etc. Those kind of things make me wonder if he cheated or not. | Richardson was the one who spotted something odd, when the commissioner who was also standing right there hadn't noticed anything. Its very possible that we may not have been able see anything once the wraps were in place.
End of the day I hope he never fights again, he doesn't deserve to make another cent of the sport he disrespected
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11-02-2009, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Chino I am not so sure if he cheated against Cotto. How can we explain Margarito walking forward like a tank against a swarm of mosquitoes (Cotto's punches)? Did he put plaster on his face? Also, if Margarito was cheating that night, it would be a bit dumb of him to be parading his fists up high in victory walking around the ring, in front of all cameras, during the interviews after the fight, etc. Those kind of things make me wonder if he cheated or not. | The bricks were hidden under the wraps as inside the wraps. Did you miss the way Tony was caught? Tony already had his hands wrapped and approved by the commission when Richardson asked if he could touch them and then Richardson said they feel hard, can we have them removed? And when they were removed, out fell the plaster bricks so how would any one with a camera be able to see what is under the wraps if the commission that was standing there supposedly doing there job missed it. Does HBO have xray camera machines now?
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11-02-2009, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BoxingChaos Quote:
Originally Posted by Chino I am not so sure if he cheated against Cotto. How can we explain Margarito walking forward like a tank against a swarm of mosquitoes (Cotto's punches)? Did he put plaster on his face? Also, if Margarito was cheating that night, it would be a bit dumb of him to be parading his fists up high in victory walking around the ring, in front of all cameras, during the interviews after the fight, etc. Those kind of things make me wonder if he cheated or not. | The bricks were hidden under the wraps as inside the wraps. Did you miss the way Tony was caught? Tony already had his hands wrapped and approved by the commission when Richardson asked if he could touch them and then Richardson said they feel hard, can we have them removed? And when they were removed, out fell the plaster bricks so how would any one with a camera be able to see what is under the wraps if the commission that was standing there supposedly doing there job missed it. Does HBO have xray camera machines now? | An easy way around that problem would be to make sure an official was in attendance supervising the wrapping of the hands and checking the gloves etc....   |
11-02-2009, 08:20 PM
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They just supervise they don't really inspect the wraps. I'm no handwrap expert but I really doubt the inspector would have any reason to call over and feel the knucklepad out to make sure everything is legit.
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11-02-2009, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sonny78 This film is one sided bollocks
Not excusing Margarito one bit but there is no proof he had modified wraps against Cotto
Did you see the Cotto Fight, Cottos Nose was smashed from a clash of heads this affected Cottos stamina Margarito then walked through 6 rounds of pounding before Cotto slowed enough for Margarito to catch him
I saw no proof in that fight that hand-wraps would have made and difference in that fight | Sorry but I'd like to see the clash of heads too. Also if you open your fucking eyes and take a look about the place you will see proof.
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11-02-2009, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by sonny78 This film is one sided bollocks
Not excusing Margarito one bit but there is no proof he had modified wraps against Cotto
Did you see the Cotto Fight, Cottos Nose was smashed from a clash of heads this affected Cottos stamina Margarito then walked through 6 rounds of pounding before Cotto slowed enough for Margarito to catch him
I saw no proof in that fight that hand-wraps would have made and difference in that fight | Sorry but I'd like to see the clash of heads too. Also if you open your fucking eyes and take a look about the place you will see proof. | lol calm down pimp. But I too am waiting for this head butt which is new to me. |
11-02-2009, 10:15 PM
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Theres more reason to believe Tony cheated than he didnt
Why you going to use plaster against an old man when your an overwhelming favorite? But not use it in your previous fight when the roles were reversed? |
11-02-2009, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Cleon Theres more reason to believe Tony cheated than he didnt
Why you going to use plaster against an old man when your an overwhelming favorite? But not use it in your previous fight when the roles were reversed? | That is the best point made here. Cotto young undefeated fighter. Mosley old and had'nt look very spectacular in his last few fights.
He cheated . Nasseem Richardson is awesome and I think the best trainer out there and this helps proove it. |
11-03-2009, 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Chino I am not so sure if he cheated against Cotto. How can we explain Margarito walking forward like a tank against a swarm of mosquitoes (Cotto's punches)? Did he put plaster on his face? Also, if Margarito was cheating that night, it would be a bit dumb of him to be parading his fists up high in victory walking around the ring, in front of all cameras, during the interviews after the fight, etc. Those kind of things make me wonder if he cheated or not. | The bricks were hidden under the wraps as inside the wraps. Did you miss the way Tony was caught? Tony already had his hands wrapped and approved by the commission when Richardson asked if he could touch them and then Richardson said they feel hard, can we have them removed? And when they were removed, out fell the plaster bricks so how would any one with a camera be able to see what is under the wraps if the commission that was standing there supposedly doing there job missed it. Does HBO have xray camera machines now? | i agree........... 
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11-03-2009, 02:34 AM
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What if the commission came into the ring and inspected the gloves and wraps after a fight, as well as observing the hand wrapping? I know it would be after the fact, but if it was known they would be checked... |
11-03-2009, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Chino I am not so sure if he cheated against Cotto. How can we explain Margarito walking forward like a tank against a swarm of mosquitoes (Cotto's punches)? Did he put plaster on his face? Also, if Margarito was cheating that night, it would be a bit dumb of him to be parading his fists up high in victory walking around the ring, in front of all cameras, during the interviews after the fight, etc. Those kind of things make me wonder if he cheated or not. | The bricks were hidden under the wraps as inside the wraps. Did you miss the way Tony was caught? Tony already had his hands wrapped and approved by the commission when Richardson asked if he could touch them and then Richardson said they feel hard, can we have them removed? And when they were removed, out fell the plaster bricks so how would any one with a camera be able to see what is under the wraps if the commission that was standing there supposedly doing there job missed it. Does HBO have xray camera machines now? | Good point. But even if that was the case, how can we explain the fact that Cotto's best punches didn't do a thing to Margarito at all? I am not sure if it is possible to inject plaster on someone's face.
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11-03-2009, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Myk_Myk What if the commission came into the ring and inspected the gloves and wraps after a fight, as well as observing the hand wrapping? I know it would be after the fact, but if it was known they would be checked... | I woudln't mind if that became a rule. Check everything before/after the fight. |
11-03-2009, 01:00 PM
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He probably did have loaded wraps... we can (and have) speculate as much and for as long as we want to but only 1-2 people will ever know for certain.
Cotto's fans are just going to have to accept the outcome and move on.
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11-03-2009, 01:23 PM
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out and out cheat!! should be in jail instead of wanting rematches | |
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