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Cannot wait MAB my hero,
noone really knows how the Khan fight would have ended, he was cut in the first and as someone else said he wobbled Khan fighting with one eye.
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Marquez is the 'super' champion.
Marquez is the super but also "rightful" WBA champ.

It was Juan Diaz before the WBA decided to make him "super" champ. Obviously Marquez beat Diaz.

And obviously the WBA only split up the title to make more money out of it. So obviously it means shit. Like all alphabets.

Anyway.. Marquez is linear champ through beating Casamayor. So Barrera would need to beat him for "world champion" to mean anything.

How many guys get a title shot by fighting and beating the top guys 1 through 10? I have no question that the 'super' title is a load of crap but I don't think it's fair to suggest that other boxers don't work the system.
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MAb may not be the fighter he once was as age and time served takes its toll, but he has as much heart as any man who steps in the ring. I don't know how much longer that will carry him, but it has to be respected. Would love to see him leave on a winning note.
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Marquez is the 'super' champion.
Marquez is the super but also "rightful" WBA champ.

It was Juan Diaz before the WBA decided to make him "super" champ. Obviously Marquez beat Diaz.

And obviously the WBA only split up the title to make more money out of it. So obviously it means shit. Like all alphabets.

Anyway.. Marquez is linear champ through beating Casamayor. So Barrera would need to beat him for "world champion" to mean anything.

How many guys get a title shot by fighting and beating the top guys 1 through 10? I have no question that the 'super' title is a load of crap but I don't think it's fair to suggest that other boxers don't work the system.
I have no problem with Barrera getting a shot at Moses. Just I wouldn't class him as THE world lightweight champion if he won. Obviously he would be A "world" champion though. Just like Khan is "world" champion for beating Kotelnik.
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Marquez is the super but also "rightful" WBA champ.

It was Juan Diaz before the WBA decided to make him "super" champ. Obviously Marquez beat Diaz.

And obviously the WBA only split up the title to make more money out of it. So obviously it means shit. Like all alphabets.

Anyway.. Marquez is linear champ through beating Casamayor. So Barrera would need to beat him for "world champion" to mean anything.

How many guys get a title shot by fighting and beating the top guys 1 through 10? I have no question that the 'super' title is a load of crap but I don't think it's fair to suggest that other boxers don't work the system.
I have no problem with Barrera getting a shot at Moses. Just I wouldn't class him as THE world lightweight champion if he won. Obviously he would be A "world" champion though. Just like Khan is "world" champion for beating Kotelnik.
there's a lot of world champions about
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undefeated heavy hitting Paulus Moses

That's terrible news not good news.

Moses isn't the world champ. He has some shitty WBA version stripped off Marquez. Who regards him as champ? Come on now.. is he even top 10 Ring ranked?
The Ring has him at 7
The belt he got don't mean but he is becoming an impressive lightweight
Fast jab-nice work rate-solid power & works the body well
Love Barrera-but Moses is a jive dude
The Hitman should dominate
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Old 11-04-2009, 07:54 AM
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undefeated heavy hitting Paulus Moses

That's terrible news not good news.

Moses isn't the world champ. He has some shitty WBA version stripped off Marquez. Who regards him as champ? Come on now.. is he even top 10 Ring ranked?
The Ring has him at 7
The belt he got don't mean but he is becoming an impressive lightweight
Fast jab-nice work rate-solid power & works the body well
Love Barrera-but Moses is a jive dude
The Hitman should dominate
I admit I haven't seen him fight but I would say at this stage if he comes forward and looks to fight that is favourable to Barrera (& possibly to moses but like I say I've not seen him) rather than a runner he has to cut off.
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Old 11-04-2009, 08:10 AM
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undefeated heavy hitting Paulus Moses

That's terrible news not good news.

Moses isn't the world champ. He has some shitty WBA version stripped off Marquez. Who regards him as champ? Come on now.. is he even top 10 Ring ranked?
The Ring has him at 7
The belt he got don't mean but he is becoming an impressive lightweight
Fast jab-nice work rate-solid power & works the body well
Love Barrera-but Moses is a jive dude
The Hitman should dominate
I admit I haven't seen him fight but I would say at this stage if he comes forward and looks to fight that is favourable to Barrera (& possibly to moses but like I say I've not seen him) rather than a runner he has to cut off.
Barreras a warrior & won't come off as some jive ass punk
Moses might be just hitting his peak


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Old 11-04-2009, 08:14 AM
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what's with all the jive talk Shaft?
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what's with all the jive talk Shaft?
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How many guys get a title shot by fighting and beating the top guys 1 through 10? I have no question that the 'super' title is a load of crap but I don't think it's fair to suggest that other boxers don't work the system.
I have no problem with Barrera getting a shot at Moses. Just I wouldn't class him as THE world lightweight champion if he won. Obviously he would be A "world" champion though. Just like Khan is "world" champion for beating Kotelnik.
there's a lot of world champions about
A lot of "world" champions. Sadly for the sport of boxing only a handful can claim to be THE genuine WORLD champion.
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undefeated heavy hitting Paulus Moses

That's terrible news not good news.

Moses isn't the world champ. He has some shitty WBA version stripped off Marquez. Who regards him as champ? Come on now.. is he even top 10 Ring ranked?
The Ring has him at 7
The belt he got don't mean but he is becoming an impressive lightweight
Fast jab-nice work rate-solid power & works the body well
Love Barrera-but Moses is a jive dude
The Hitman should dominate
That says it all. The world champion is rated the 7th best fighter in his divison by the Ring. Saddo Ratings don't even have him in the top 10. Only a handful of hardcore boxing fans on this site would have seen him fight. The world champion

(note: the wanky smiley is for the world champion moniker not for the boxer Paulus Moses)
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undefeated heavy hitting Paulus Moses

That's terrible news not good news.

Moses isn't the world champ. He has some shitty WBA version stripped off Marquez. Who regards him as champ? Come on now.. is he even top 10 Ring ranked?
The Ring has him at 7
The belt he got don't mean but he is becoming an impressive lightweight
Fast jab-nice work rate-solid power & works the body well
Love Barrera-but Moses is a jive dude
The Hitman should dominate
That says it all. The world champion is rated the 7th best fighter in his divison by the Ring. Saddo Ratings don't even have him in the top 10. Only a handful of hardcore boxing fans on this site would have seen him fight. The world champion

(note: the wanky smiley is for the world champion moniker not for the boxer Paulus Moses)
I saw Moses' last fight with Shimoda I think it was
The dude is pretty good
I think if this fight gets on TV
He'll impress a lot of these cats
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Marco is an intelligent fighter with great skills...so i don't see him embarrassing himself in the ring. That being said...his best is behind him. He has fought for so long and been part of so many great fights...he should retire with pride. But boxers rarely ever do that.
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Barrera is way past it.

He should retire.
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