WBC wants all fathers banned from working sons corners

ElTerribleMorales · #1 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 01:26 PM

WBC wants to ban fathers from sons' corners - ESPN

pretty ridiculous if you ask me, combined with the Arreola situation and well they're seriously going downhill

**Howlin Mad Missy** · #2 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 01:51 PM

people used to hold the WBC with high regard (relatively speaking)

ElTerribleMorales · #3 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy

people used to hold the WBC with high regard (relatively speaking)

exactly my point, it's seriously becoming quite ridiculous as of late, seems to be following the WBA's footsteps

miles · #4 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 02:06 PM

They are nuts. Can't we just ban the WBC? They seem to be a bunch of raving shitheads.

Mar · #5 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 02:21 PM

Yea that's what's wrong with the sport.....can't blame mma fans for laughing at this one. If your father cusses on tv then he really can't be in the corner.

ElTerribleMorales · #6 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 02:35 PM

pretty ridiculous seeing how Morales one of their most highly touted fighters was trained by his father for about 98% of his career, and how Chavez their star fighter is constantly seen yelling to his son from the front row, he only doesn't work the corner cause of lack of time and well personal probs, making it that much more ridiculous

BoxingChaos · #7 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 03:47 PM

It's no secret that boxing has it's lengthy share of injuries and fatalities, but I personally would like to see more on this subject. All they are feeding is words as far as I am concerned.

"The most common factor out of all the fatalities that had happened, was having fathers in the corner," he said of the study. "Now, that's not something that's a medical issue, but it's something that's clearly an association."

Show me the list, make me a believer, don't just tell me about it, where is the study? Give me names, dates and everything else you have to offer in order to back up your claims.

What's next? No UNCLE Roger's?

I understand where the WBC is coming from, this is nothing new about a parent pushing his or her child to the limits and beyond but some fathers make a living from this. How are you going to deny a person to work?

What the hell is going on in Korea that all these strange new ORDERS are being made?

Concentrate more on fixing the judges problems, re educate them. There is nothing more that bothers me in a fight when I hear an announcer sitting ring side say: "I don't know what the judges are looking for."
This should never be an option that a judge can score a fight based on what he likes. This is not a taste test.

Implement the instant replay for questionable rulings.

Allow judges to be interviewed after the fight and set an age limit of no more than 65 yrs. I have seen some judges who are older than Moses.

If Ref makes a bad call, he should be brought up before some kind of hearing, review. We need a boxing Internal Affairs.

I guess I would start there and I would not stop until this was well organized.

Again, show me the data you have gathered on the father/son death ratio.

TY.

I guess the hand wrap scandal should also be something these clowns should assure any one and everyone that it will never happen again.

ElTerribleMorales · #8 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 03:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxingChaos

It's no secret that boxing has it's lengthy share of injuries and fatalities, but I personally would like to see more on this subject. All they are feeding is words as far as I am concerned.

"The most common factor out of all the fatalities that had happened, was having fathers in the corner," he said of the study. "Now, that's not something that's a medical issue, but it's something that's clearly an association."

Show me the list, make a believer, don't just tell me about it, where is the study? Give me names, dates and everything else you have to offer in order to back up your claims.

What's next? No UNCLE Roger's?

I understand where the WBC is coming from, this is nothing new about a parent pushing his or her child to the limits and beyond but some fathers make a living from this. How are you going to deny a person to work?

What the hell is going on in Korea that all these strange new ORDERS are being made?

Concentrate more on fixing the judges problems, re educate them. There is nothing more that bothers me in a fight when I hear an announcer sitting ring side say: "I don't know what the judges are looking for."
This should never be an option that a judge can score a fight based on what he likes. This is not a taste test.

Implement the instant replay for questionable rulings.

Allow judges to be interviewed after the fight and set an age limit of no more than 65 yrs. I have seen some judges who are older than Moses.

If Ref makes a bad call, he should be brought up before some kind of hearing, review. We need a boxing Internal Affairs.

I guess I would start there and I would not stop until this was well organized.

Again, show me the data you have gathered on the father/son death ratio.

TY.

Nevada has just approved of instant replay in fights, which is a step in the right direction

and i can think up more names of fighter who have benefited from having their father's in their corner than the ones who have not

Felix "Tito" Trinidad - his dad saving him in the Hopkins fight was a clear example of this

Erik Morales - his father was the one who urged him to retire

Shane Mosley - willingly stepped out of the picture when he also felt that he wasn't best fight to help his son in the Margarito fight

Killface · #9 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxingChaos

It's no secret that boxing has it's lengthy share of injuries and fatalities, but I personally would like to see more on this subject. All they are feeding is words as far as I am concerned.

"The most common factor out of all the fatalities that had happened, was having fathers in the corner," he said of the study. "Now, that's not something that's a medical issue, but it's something that's clearly an association."

Show me the list, make me a believer, don't just tell me about it, where is the study? Give me names, dates and everything else you have to offer in order to back up your claims.

What's next? No UNCLE Roger's?

I understand where the WBC is coming from, this is nothing new about a parent pushing his or her child to the limits and beyond but some fathers make a living from this. How are you going to deny a person to work?

What the hell is going on in Korea that all these strange new ORDERS are being made?

Concentrate more on fixing the judges problems, re educate them. There is nothing more that bothers me in a fight when I hear an announcer sitting ring side say: "I don't know what the judges are looking for."
This should never be an option that a judge can score a fight based on what he likes. This is not a taste test.

Implement the instant replay for questionable rulings.

Allow judges to be interviewed after the fight and set an age limit of no more than 65 yrs. I have seen some judges who are older than Moses.

If Ref makes a bad call, he should be brought up before some kind of hearing, review. We need a boxing Internal Affairs.

I guess I would start there and I would not stop until this was well organized.

Again, show me the data you have gathered on the father/son death ratio.

TY.

I guess the hand wrap scandal should also be something these clowns should assure any one and everyone that it will never happen again.

You know what else is common? Bread. Either all the fighters who have died ate bread or at least at some point in their lives had eaten bread. The WBC should be really proactive and ban all fighters who've ever consumed the baked good in any form.

BoxingChaos · #10 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxingChaos

It's no secret that boxing has it's lengthy share of injuries and fatalities, but I personally would like to see more on this subject. All they are feeding is words as far as I am concerned.

"The most common factor out of all the fatalities that had happened, was having fathers in the corner," he said of the study. "Now, that's not something that's a medical issue, but it's something that's clearly an association."

Show me the list, make a believer, don't just tell me about it, where is the study? Give me names, dates and everything else you have to offer in order to back up your claims.

What's next? No UNCLE Roger's?

I understand where the WBC is coming from, this is nothing new about a parent pushing his or her child to the limits and beyond but some fathers make a living from this. How are you going to deny a person to work?

What the hell is going on in Korea that all these strange new ORDERS are being made?

Concentrate more on fixing the judges problems, re educate them. There is nothing more that bothers me in a fight when I hear an announcer sitting ring side say: "I don't know what the judges are looking for."
This should never be an option that a judge can score a fight based on what he likes. This is not a taste test.

Implement the instant replay for questionable rulings.

Allow judges to be interviewed after the fight and set an age limit of no more than 65 yrs. I have seen some judges who are older than Moses.

If Ref makes a bad call, he should be brought up before some kind of hearing, review. We need a boxing Internal Affairs.

I guess I would start there and I would not stop until this was well organized.

Again, show me the data you have gathered on the father/son death ratio.

TY.

Nevada has just approved of instant replay in fights, which is a step in the right direction

and i can think up more names of fighter who have benefited from having their father's in their corner than the ones who have not

Felix "Tito" Trinidad - his dad saving him in the Hopkins fight was a clear example of this

Erik Morales - his father was the one who urged him to retire

Shane Mosley - willingly stepped out of the picture when he also felt that he wasn't best fight to help his son in the Margarito fight

Perfect examples!

I think something is going on in Korea that they are not telling us.
WAG THE DOG.

BoxingChaos · #11 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killface

Quote:

Originally Posted by BoxingChaos

It's no secret that boxing has it's lengthy share of injuries and fatalities, but I personally would like to see more on this subject. All they are feeding is words as far as I am concerned.

"The most common factor out of all the fatalities that had happened, was having fathers in the corner," he said of the study. "Now, that's not something that's a medical issue, but it's something that's clearly an association."

Show me the list, make me a believer, don't just tell me about it, where is the study? Give me names, dates and everything else you have to offer in order to back up your claims.

What's next? No UNCLE Roger's?

I understand where the WBC is coming from, this is nothing new about a parent pushing his or her child to the limits and beyond but some fathers make a living from this. How are you going to deny a person to work?

What the hell is going on in Korea that all these strange new ORDERS are being made?

Concentrate more on fixing the judges problems, re educate them. There is nothing more that bothers me in a fight when I hear an announcer sitting ring side say: "I don't know what the judges are looking for."
This should never be an option that a judge can score a fight based on what he likes. This is not a taste test.

Implement the instant replay for questionable rulings.

Allow judges to be interviewed after the fight and set an age limit of no more than 65 yrs. I have seen some judges who are older than Moses.

If Ref makes a bad call, he should be brought up before some kind of hearing, review. We need a boxing Internal Affairs.

I guess I would start there and I would not stop until this was well organized.

Again, show me the data you have gathered on the father/son death ratio.

TY.

I guess the hand wrap scandal should also be something these clowns should assure any one and everyone that it will never happen again.

You know what else is common? Bread. Either all the fighters who have died ate bread or at least at some point in their lives had eaten bread. The WBC should be really proactive and ban all fighters who've ever consumed the baked good in any form.

Damn it, and here I was thinking that just maybe, it was the water.

I think you are on to something.

Killface · #12 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 04:06 PM

Bread shouldn't even be legal. 98.77% of all people who die, by natural causes, misadventure or foul play ate bread within a 6 month period of their death. Scary, huh?

Youngblood · #13 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 04:39 PM

This sounds really, really stupid. I mean, won't affect me at all, my dad can't even hold a camera to take pics or vids he shakes so bad when I fight haha. But yea, a lot of fighters their fathers are seasoned, trained professionals.

Meh, they making up rules and bannings for all the wrong reasons. Are they all a buncha punch drunk power broker wannabes or sumthin? wtf?

amat · #14 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 04:44 PM

Someone needs to take care of this Suliaman guy. The WBC may be more credible then others but this guy is a complete wack-job. This is something you would be more worried about with youth boxers not professionals. How ridiculous.

Nameless · #15 (**permalink**) 11-04-2009, 05:38 PM

Can we just use Sulaiman, stuff him like the stuff animals you find in any good hunting shack and display him in a museum? he would be as entertaining here than in reality without the silly stuff he seems able to spew relentlessly.